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Seul · Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul

As I look through the job ads, the most attractive positions to me are advertised as "after school program" or "public after school program" in the title. If you go to the job section on here and do an EDIT FIND for "after" you can see what I mean.

They typically are offering the same amount of money and benefits as a hagwon. The hours seem very attractive with a lot of them being something like 12-5PM or 12-6PM or so. Many advertise that there are only about 20-25 teaching hours a week.

On paper, these jobs seem better than both public schools and hagwons. It seems too good to be true. So, what's the catch? I don't really see people talking about them too much. What am I missing here?

Thanks

Tommy · Joined: 24 Aug 2005

They generally pay a bit higher than hagwon gigs, but provide no housing even if they say they do.

From what I can gather, after school programs are run out of public schools, but a 3rd party is usually involved and more then often use a bank scam to hide their earnings from the government. I think they have a reputation for being even more shady than hagwons.

esglumac · Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:14 pm Post subject:

Hi,

Most of the afer-school are considered part-time ( F-2 visa).

To be considered full-time, it has to be 30 hours a week ( most are listed as 25 or less). This came of the Ministrey of Education website.

Also, says that 1-4 ones are E-2 sponsered ( and accrediated).

We are having major problems with it, too. Since, most ones that are listed from 12-5 say E-2 visa sponsership ( some offer housing, others don't).

My only guess is they aren't including prep times in 12-5 ones. Otherwise, with an hour prep time, it is 30 hours.

toonchoon · Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Location: Gangnam

i just signed with an after-school program and am waiting for my visa. mine is 30 hrs incl. prep time, 25 hours teaching. i'm being provided housing, and a pretty decent salary, and vacation.

two of my friends work for WinEducation in the after school programs and have nothing but good things to say about their job and WE as the company doing these programs. some after school programs def look shady, i hope mine turns out to be cool.

Seul · Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul

Thanks guys... I suppose I am just going to proceed with caution taking in consideration the things you brought up and then post any contract when that time comes. The hours just look so good. 30 hours at the workplace with 25 teaching hours would be sweet.

DJTwoTone · Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:28 pm Post subject:

The number of parasites you are helping to support...

Seul · Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul

DJTwoTone · Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:45 pm Post subject:

It means that if you work in a hogwon, you get to help take money from parents which then goes into the owners pocket... If you work for an after school program you get to help take money from taxpayers which then goes into the principal/vice-principal/program coordinator/anyone else who wants a piece of the pie's pocket...

I thought it was the punchline... I was wrong...

Guess I'm too old and bitter...

Seul · Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul

Appreciate the clarification DJTwoTone. I'm a newb here, so I really didn't know the difference on who pays for what and who benefits in this situation. It was above my head... I'm sure it was funny to someone : )

Seul · Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul

Why don't the public schools just get the public school teachers to teach the after school programs? It seems that the after school programs fall within public school hours for the most part. So at a lot of public schools you have a public school teacher teaching classes and then also have a non public school teacher come in to teach the after school classes?

DC in Suwon · Joined: 14 Dec 2008

I got my visa # on Saturday (still need to go to consulate) for an after school position.

I work 12-6. Starting time is at 1 (prep from 12-1). Also have single housing and all the regular items you'd see on public school contract.

The school I'll be teaching at is pretty nice from what I've seen on their website.

If anyone is interested, you can PM me and I'll give you my recruiter's contact info. I believe she has other after school positions in different areas.

Seul · Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul

Hey DC in Suwon, Thanks for chiming in. I don't have 25 posts quite yet, could you PM me the info? I'd be interested in following up with your contact. Thanks!

DC in Suwon · Joined: 14 Dec 2008

Ukon · Joined: 29 Jan 2008

Young FRANKenstein · Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:02 pm Post subject: