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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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 Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:24 pm Post subject: Does He Deserve Human Rights Protections...? |
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Ameneh Bahrami...wants to blind Majid Movahedi, the man who blinded her...
Bahrami says she first crossed paths with Movahedi in 2002, when they attended the same university.
She was a 24-year-old electronics student. He was 19. She never noticed him until they shared a class. He sat next to her one day and brushed up against her. Bahrami says she knew it wasn't an accident.
"I moved away from him," she said, "but he brushed up against me again."
When Bahrami stood up in class and screamed for him to stop, Movahedi just looked at her in stunned silence. He wouldn't stay silent for long.
Bahrami said that over the next two years, Movahedi kept harassing her and making threats, even as he asked her to marry him. "He told me he would kill me. He said, 'You have to say yes.' "
On a November afternoon in 2004, Movahedi's threats turned to violence.
That day at 4:30 p.m., Bahrami left the medical engineering company where she worked. As she walked to the bus stop, she remembers sensing someone behind her.
She turned around and was startled to see Movahedi. A moment later came the agonizing pain. Movahedi had thrown something over her. What felt like fire on her face was acid searing through her skin.
"I was just yelling, 'I'm burning! I'm burning! For God's sake, somebody help me!' "
The acid seeped into Bahrami's eyes and streamed down her face and into her mouth. When she covered her face with her hands, streaks of acid ran down her fingers and onto her forearms...
Bahrami's lawyer, Ali Sarrafi, said Movahedi had never shown any remorse. "He says he did it because he loved her," Sarrafi said...
"I told the judge I want an eye for an eye," Bahrami said. "People like him should be made to feel my suffering..."
Bahrami's demand has outraged some human rights activists. Criticizing acid-attack victims is almost unheard of, but some Internet bloggers have condemned Bahrami's decision.
"We cannot condone such cruel punishment," wrote one blogger. "To willingly inflict the same treatment on a person under court order is a violation of human rights..." |
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Rusty Shackleford
Joined: 08 May 2008
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Only humans should be granted human rights. I have no qualms about shooting dogs who attack people. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Everyone deserves human rights. That's rather the point of them.
Of course, the guy should be tried and punished, but the punishment should not be barbaric. Civilized people don't lower themselves to the level of barbarism and still call themselves civilized. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| Civilized people don't lower themselves to the level of barbarism and still call themselves civilized. |
The article is from Iran, not Norway. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| And the poster who voted the man doesn't deserve human rights is Iranian? |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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I have no problem with this man being made to suffer the same fate as his victim.
The victim will feel justice has been done. And perhaps a good way to make these revolting men think twice about their actions - though it won't necessarily deter all of them.
But the problem with these kinds of punishments being made legal and officially sanctioned is that many innocent and wrongly convicted folk will no doubt fall foul of them. That's why I don't agree with capital punishment. Until you can devise a fail-safe way of only convicting the guilty, I will always oppose it.
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
| I have no problem with this man being made to suffer the same fate as his victim. |
Then you are a barbaric person. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
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| I have no problem with this man being made to suffer the same fate as his victim. |
Then you are a barbaric person. |
Quite possibly.  |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| And the poster who voted the man doesn't deserve human rights is Iranian? |
No. Gopheranian. I respect and support Ameneh Bahrami's position -- and indeed, this has always represented a facet of Islamic criminal law that I have respected and supported.
Do you want men to stop throwing acid in women's faces in the Middle East? Let it be known that those men who do will suffer the same fate.
The end. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, right. And captial punishment has worked out so well there and elsehwere in stopping murder. Same thing goes for amputations stopping theft in the ME. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Does he deserve them, no, but should he get them, yes. Cut down all the laws of England, etc. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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No respectable system of law would approve of what this woman seeks.
Can I make it more unequivocal than that?
(And yes, BB is right about capital punishment as well) |
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riverboy
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:24 am Post subject: |
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| Hey, the gut took his own perverted form of justice into his own hands. Give him a life sentence in jail and burn his eyes out. I am probabally wrong here, but it seems to be pretty just to me. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:33 am Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| No respectable system of law would approve of what this woman seeks. |
Your concept "respectable system of law" likely derives from Western civ, Judeo-Christian worldviews, Anglo-American jurisprudence and legal standards, and is therefore hopelessly ethnocentric. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:04 am Post subject: |
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Of course the man deserves human rights protections - in whatever prison he is sentenced to.
He certainly should not suffer the same fate at the hands of the state or his victim. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, etc.
That is like saying, "We are going to show you that throwing acid in someone's face is wrong by throwing it in yours."  |
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