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mises
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 Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:54 am Post subject: What to do about the Uighurs? |
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| The U.S. government may continue holding a group of 17 Chinese Muslims instead of releasing them in the United States, even though they are no longer considered dangerous, a federal appeals court ruled Wednesday in reversing an earlier decision. |
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-uighurs-release19-2009feb19,0,6251302.story
So, what to do with these people. I've read that Canada might take them.. Do we really know they'd be tortured back in China?
What if China picked up some La Raza activists (during a period of rebellion) and the US demanded them back? My opinion, they are a Chinese problem and they should head back to China. |
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On the other hand
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In military tribunals at Guantanamo, many of the men said they saw themselves as allies of the U.S. against China. Several said they had traveled to Afghanistan for training to fight the Chinese.
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Jesus. Were these guys just telling the judge what they thought he wanted to hear, or were they really clueless enough to think that the US was interested in backing a proxy war against China?
As far as I know, the US stopped supporting anti-Chinese militias shortly after Mao met Nixon. (Though it was fun last year listening to stuck-in-the-60s left-wing Sinophiles go on about how calls for an Olympic boycott were a CIA plot, even as Henry Kissinger was an honoured guest at the Beijing Games.) |
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Gopher
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They had stopped all of that by the early-1970s, On the Other Hand. Before the Shanghai Communique. They had also withdrawn the fleet form the Taiwanese Straits. Chinese-American hostility ended then, never resumed, at least not yet, 1989's turbulence notwithstanding.
We should probably thank Russia for that. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:25 am Post subject: |
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| They had stopped all of that by the early-1970s, On the Other Hand. Before the Shanghai Communique. |
Really? I got into some pretty intense debates about Tibet last year, and I thought the research I was doing indicated that the support for Tibetan insurgents ended sometime AFTER the Mao/Nixon summit. Not that it really matters, since it's only a question of a few years, but do you have a source showing an earlier date?
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:28 am Post subject: |
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I recall George H.W. Bush and Dan Quayle(along with Nixon of course) being particularly keen on avoiding any resumption of hostilities post-Tiennamen Square. Another fact which I'm sure threw the old left-wing Sinophiles for a loop. |
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moosehead
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: What to do about the Uighurs? |
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Do we really know they'd be tortured back in China?
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China wants them back so they can try and convict them and make examples out of them. These are people who fled China illegally.
One of them has already given his wife permission to divorce him - they really don't expect to see their families (in China) again.
They've been cleared for release but no one seems to know why they haven't been released yet - probably plans are being made as to where they will go. I'm thinking a Chinese immigrant community probably - US or Canada. |
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