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mike123_ca
Joined: 12 Mar 2003
Location: wandering between Chonan and Asan
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 Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:55 am Post subject: f2 visa not by marriage........ |
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http://www.hikorea.go.kr/pt/index.html
F2 Visa requirements
It states that if a foreigner has 7 years of continuous stay in ROK and is accepted by the minister of justice.
I wondering if any e2 visa teachers have been able to upgraded this way to a F2 visa. |
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pocariboy73
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:05 am Post subject: |
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| The link you provided doesn't take one to the right page. Not sure where you found that information. |
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mike123_ca
Joined: 12 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:37 am Post subject: |
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The link you provided doesn't take one to the right page. Not sure where you found that information.
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Sorry for the lack of details. Unfortunately, I can't find a direct link to the page. So, here is the long way.
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http://www.hikorea.go.kr/pt/index.html
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go to Information shortcuts and click on the pink Balloon that says
Immigration.
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The box below will update with new information. Click on the link that says
" Foreigner Sojourn " On the left-hand side of the page is an section.
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Under Foreigner Sojourn is a new link called Extension of Stay" click on this link.
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Now look for a new link called status of stay(35) and click on this link.
On this page you will see all the requirements for each visa. Just look for F2 visa.
I wish I was able to give a direct link to the web page. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:00 am Post subject: |
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You might want to look at the F-5 thread where Tompatz talks about his applying for an F-5 (he isn't married to a Korean) and the fact that he got denied by immigration based on the fact that you have to have continuous employment with the same employer. Based his experience, it sound very slim possibility in terms of getting an F-2 or F-5 without being married to a Korean.
Mike, by the way your directions were fine. I was able to find it easily. |
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mike123_ca
Joined: 12 Mar 2003
Location: wandering between Chonan and Asan
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:36 am Post subject: |
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Next year would make 7 years in Korea for me.
It would be great to get a F2 visa. Then, I wouldn't be stuck to a school for a full year. I would own the visa and not the school. I won't need to get a letter of release.
I would also at the same time apply for a Thailand ( O-Visa family visa) I have a Thai wife.
I was thinking with both these visas, I can come and go between Korea and Thailand anytime. When I need money come to Korea and when I need time off, then off to Thailand. |
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Chamchiman
Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Location: Digging the Grave
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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The comments from the F-5 Shuffle thread that Milwaukiedave were referring to are here:
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| winterwawa wrote: |
actually, there is already a process in place for long time resident foreigners to get an F5, although it is a long process and I have never actually heard of anyone getting an F5 this way.
According to my attorney, all you need is
5 years in Korea
at least 30 million won in the bank or property of equal value.
At least 2 letters of reference from people of the upper class. These can be from lawyers, doctors, congressmen, professors ect.
You have to have a lawyer apply directly to the Ministry of Justice who will review your documents and make the decisssion.
The langauge thing is BS. According to the immigration web site, F5 does not require Korean language profiency. The only "VISA" that requires Korean language proficiency is not actually a VISA at all. Korean language proficiency is only required for Naturalization ie. giving up your passport and home nationality and becoming a Korean citizen. |
Having been here MORE THAN 5 years and going to the trouble of applying for an F5 I can tell you for a fact that long term E2s are NOT wanted here as F5s.
1st time, I was refused because I didn't pass any "official" type of language proficiency test.
I got past that hurdle and then I was told that if anyone changes their visa status (does a visa run to change employers) that the 5 year clock starts again. refused again.
After that hurdle was past (5 years on the clock without a visa run) I was told that I had not made a suitable contribution to Korean society ( I was just a teacher after all) so I was not eligible.
I am tired of fighting this uphill battle. Korea is NOT worth that much effort. I am leaving here at the end of this contract. There is no future here for any of us who do not marry a Korean and have kids.
| tob55 wrote: |
| I heard recently from a friend who informed me that they may be one of the few or first people who will qualify for their F5 without being married to a Korean or having to commit a ton of money to the Korean economy. This was good news and I applaud the efforts of those of you who have gone to the lengths to stay here and make a life for yourself in Korea. We are at times seen as intruders to this country, but as time goes by, the cultural doors of acceptance are being opened ever so slowly, but they are opening. |
I wish your friend the best of luck. He is going to need buckets full of it. |
| ttompatz wrote: |
I'm married with kids... just not to a Korean.... and it's not that bad a hell.... family IS all it's cracked up to be.... I'm glad that I am.
It has been a good stay and for the most part, myself and my family have been well treated and done financially well also. WE have many real friends that I would count as friends under any circumstances.
I also agree that this country has a ways to go when it comes to immigration and permanent resident issues.
I am truly sorry that I will not be here when they do join the ranks of developed world in more than just GDP and technology but since there currently exists no future for me or my family other than being a well paid migrant worker, it is time to move on. |
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I was specifically told that it is 5 years with NO CHANGE in your visa status (no visa run).
IF you make a visa run the residency clock starts again.
IF you change employers without making a visa run (add employer, change sponsor from 1st to 2nd employer = visa transfer) then the clock continues.
(this was my case).
Then they have you by the balls on the "positive contribution to society" requirement. A convenient catch all to deny you anyway (unless you are a famous Dutch soccer coach or US football MPV.) |
At any rate, good luck to you. |
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mike123_ca
Joined: 12 Mar 2003
Location: wandering between Chonan and Asan
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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About ttompatz
I would like to say he was an excellent contributor here at Dave's ESL Cafe. He contributed many post's, but the vast majority of them were immigration issues.
Korean Immigration should have hired this man. I'm sure he could have a very valuable asset to Korea.
Since ttompatz was trying to get an F5 and he wasn't married to a Korean national. I'm assumig he must have already had a F2 visa. |
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Chamchiman
Joined: 24 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| mike123_ca wrote: |
| Since ttompatz was trying to get an F5 and he wasn't married to a Korean national. I'm assumig he must have already had a F2 visa. |
| ttompatz wrote: |
| Having been here MORE THAN 5 years and going to the trouble of applying for an F5 I can tell you for a fact that long term E2s are NOT wanted here as F5s. |
He was on an E-2.
I don't think it's possible to get an F-2 without being married to a Korean, since it is the Korean spouse who is sponsoring your visa in the first place. That's why Ttompatz tried to skip forward to the F-5.
As you said, he's certainly the kind of guy who's willing to help. PM him. |
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rooster_2006
Joined: 14 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:47 am Post subject: |
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I actually called a Korean law office about that seven-year F-2 thing, because I saw it too. I called Sigong Law, a law office for foreigners.
They said that yes, it is on the books, but they have never had a single foreigner who has obtained the F-2 that way.
Basically, if you don't know this term already, learn it now: 유명무실 ("has a name, does not have reality/sincerity"). It's a great term for Korean immigration -- on paper, Korea takes many refugees, gives out plenty of permanent residency visas, and allows an F-2 after seven years. However, in reality, basically all the refugees are North Koreans, basically all the PR visas are F-4s to "overseas Koreans," and the F-2 is never given out unless you're married.
Korea is a third world, bigoted country in terms of visas, don't even bother trying to think of a way to get PR without marrying -- you'll live here for years thinking you're about to hit the jackpot, and then you'll go into the immigration office, head held high, ready to receive your PR, and they'll inform you that your car is parked incorrectly and deport you from the country. |
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nobbyken
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^
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| Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| Any vacation time spent outside Korea in your 7 years may be subtracted so may result in 6.something years actually spent in Korea. |
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bluelake
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| Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm an F-5 myself (married to a Korean for the past twenty-five years) and have been an E-2 and F-2 previously. Today, I met a fellow who is an F-2 and is not married to a Korean. As mentioned before, you had to have been in the same job for a number of years to qualify; he was and evidently had no trouble getting it. So, there's hope for all who wish to make a life here in Korea, but don't wish to marry into the culture. |
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mike123_ca
Joined: 12 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:29 am Post subject: |
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| As mentioned before, you had to have been in the same job for a number of years to qualify; |
Same job for 7 years ....WTF 
My very first job, I was told that they had found a young woman. The owner felt it was better for his business. So he told me to move on.
My 2nd job was in a small village by the sea. This job lasted 2 years and it was very easy. The only problem was after 2 years I wanted to go back to living in a city.
My 3rd job only lasted 6 months. It was a brand new school, but enrollment was very limited at the start. ( after 6 months I got a letter of release)
My 4th job was at a hagwon. It was very busy and they made you work for your won.
My 5th job, I've been in a public school for the past 1.5 years.
I would think you would have to very lucky to find a job were you want to work 7 years straight
By working at different places, you should be able to learn new job skills as opposed to working at the same place and always doing the same thing over again, year after year. |
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Kryten
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:50 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like a major pain to get this status if not by marriage - 7 continuous year at the same job, 30,000 in the bank.
Why not go for one of the business visas (I don't remember which one)? As long as you've got 50,000 in the bank, you're pretty much good to go, and free to do as you please. |
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mike123_ca
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