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Merril Lynch gives out $3.5bn in bonuses for $27bn loss

 
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madoka



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:05 pm    Post subject: Merril Lynch gives out $3.5bn in bonuses for $27bn loss Reply with quote

Then the U.S. government bails them out for $20bn. I think more and more stories like this are going to come out. There was a cash grab of epic proportions with the bailout.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Judge-orders-Thain-to-testify-apf-14446427.html

CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- A New York judge cleared the way Monday for former Merrill Lynch & Co. CEO John Thain to testify about bonuses paid to Merrill employees before the company was sold to Bank of America Corp.

New York's Attorney General Andrew Cuomo filed a motion in the state's Supreme Court Monday asking that Thain be compelled to provide details on the bonuses, which he had declined to give during a deposition Thursday. Thain's attorney Andrew Levander later Monday said that the motion was granted and Thain will answer the questions Tuesday.

Levander said Thain has been cooperating with the investigation.

"He's answered 97 percent of the questions asked, and the only ones he didn't answer were at the request of Bank of America," Levander told the Associated Press.

Thain declined to give details about individual bonuses during the deposition Thursday because he said he was instructed not to by Bank of America. Levander also said Thain was worried BofA might sue him if he answered those questions.

The court also ruled to keep Thain's scheduled testimony Tuesday on the subject confidential until at least March 13 at the request of Bank of America, Levander said. The judge will hold a hearing then to determine if details about individual bonuses should remain confidential, he added.

Bank of America spokesman Scott Silvestri said: "We're pleased with the ruling, which is consistent with the company's position all along, that the information is private and should remain private to protect the rights of the individuals and the competitive position of the company."

Cuomo has been investigating $3.6 billion in bonuses Merrill Lynch executives received less than a month before the company completed its sale to Charlotte, N.C.-based Bank of America, and whether investors were properly informed about Merrill's finances.

The payments came as New York-based Merrill was on the brink of reporting a more than $15 billion fourth-quarter loss and more than $27 billion in losses for the full year.

During his deposition Thursday, Thain indicated Bank of America was deeply involved in paying out the Merrill bonuses.

Earlier this month, Cuomo subpoenaed Bank of America's chairman and chief executive Ken Lewis, as he investigates the timing of the bonuses. Last month, Cuomo subpoenaed Thain and Bank of America's chief administrative officer, J. Steele Alphin.

When questioned about the Merrill bonuses during Congressional testimony Feb. 11, Lewis said he had "very limited" involvement in the decision making regarding the payments. Lewis said: "We had no authority to tell them what to do to. Just urge them what to do. We did urge."

Bank of America has also repeatedly said that Merrill Lynch was an independent company last year, and its board of directors had ultimate approval over how much to pay employees.

Lewis testified before a Congressional committee along with other banking executives whose firms have received funds from the government.

Last month, when news of the bonuses broke, Thain resigned from his new post as head of the wealth management division of the combined bank.

The initial reports of the bonuses came just days after Bank of America received an additional $20 billion from the government that it said it needed to help offset the losses it was absorbing from the Merrill acquisition. The additional support was provided to Bank of America as Lewis showed trepidation about completing the deal to acquire Merrill.

The government helped orchestrate the acquisition of Merrill by Bank of America over the same weekend in September that another investment bank, Lehman Brothers, went under, setting off the most intense period of the financial crisis.

Bernard reported from New York.
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RJjr



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, we're getting phucked by the big (Merrill Lynch) and the small (this Garcia lady): http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/23/hey-lady-your-800000-house-is-not-my-problem/
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aquaponics08



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder how long before people go after them with guns? Couldn't happen to a bigger bunch of pricks!
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mises



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aquaponics08 wrote:
I wonder how long before people go after them with guns? Couldn't happen to a bigger bunch of pricks!


I wouldn't doubt that someone will try and do something extreme. Already, there are groups of people picketing some homes in Connecticut where some bankers live.
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mises



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Top N.Y. legal officer demands bonus list from BofA CEO

NEW YORK (Reuters) - New York's top legal officer on Thursday demanded Bank of America Corp Chief Executive Kenneth Lewis provide names of Merrill Lynch executives who received 2008 bonuses, and how much they got, before the bank's takeover of the firm in January.

Executive compensation is a burning issue in the financial industry and challenges to pay are being led by New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, whose office deposed former Merrill CEO John Thain on Tuesday for a second time over $3.6 billion in bonuses.

"I answered all the questions to the best of my knowledge and hopefully brought some clarity," Lewis told reporters after he gave a deposition in Manhattan to Cuomo's lawyers on Thursday that lasted about four hours.

"It's been a long evening and I'm tired," said Lewis, who was served a subpoena for the list of names.

A Bank of America spokesman, who was with Lewis during the deposition, said he had not been given an indication of whether Lewis would have to return for further questioning.

Cuomo's special assistant, Benjamin Lawsky, said on Thursday night that the office was "very disappointed" that the Charlotte, North Carolina-based bank had not provided the information previously.

"We've been asking for a list of who got what," said Lawsky.

Cuomo began questioning bonus plans in October after nine banks received $125 billion in U.S. Treasury funds.

In a statement, Lawsky said: "We obviously wanted to question Mr. Lewis about this list and are very disappointed that Bank of America has chosen not to produce it.

"As a result, during the testimony this evening, we served a subpoena on Bank of America for the list, which we intend to obtain."

Earlier this week, Cuomo's office alleged that Bank of America was obstructing its probe into bonuses that the attorney general has said made millionaires out of hundreds of employees at the Merrill brokerage amid billions in losses.

Lawsky declined to say whether Lewis' testimony contradicted that of Thain, who was deposed under a court order to provide details of bonuses awarded to individual executives before Merrill was taken over by Bank of America on January 1.

Thain, who played a central role in awarding $3.6 billion in bonuses days before the merger, said Bank of America told him not to discuss the awards, according to court documents filed by Cuomo on Monday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSTRE51Q0JB20090227

Switzerland has pulled back some bonuses and I expect as things get worse (and they're going to get much worse) the US will do the same. At some point the rage of the population will be far to politically useful to ignore.
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ontheway



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a general comment, some bonuses are part of employee pay packages and are legally required to be paid. They are not always tied to profitability of the business. An example would be a teacher in Korea who gets a bonus of some fixed sum on every 6 month anniversary of his contract, just for completing the 6 month period.

It's quite likely, therefore, that some of the bonuses were legally required to be paid, and it would be unfair and illegal to interfere with them. Of course, these are not the one's people are angry about.

We would really need to see: "who, how much, and why" before we become properly outraged and so we can properly direct our outrage.
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mises



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend of mine worked for a big bank as a derivatives trader. His bonus was 33 months salary, from a salary of 200-300k or so. I know a female in Singapore with nearly identical compensation. He was 28. He is now unemployed as his employer no longer exists (Bear), which tells you how much value he brought to the economy and his firm.

They blew up the global economy and paid themselves very well in the process. That money isn't theirs, and they won't keep it. I'd rather Obama have it than them (and I'm a wacky libertarian).
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