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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:50 pm    Post subject: Aussies--aussie english question Reply with quote

I'm editing something from an Aussie company.

Would you guys say "catering for" or "catering to"?

As in:

Catering to young learners
Catering for young learners
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sigmundsmith



Joined: 22 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Aussies--aussie english question Reply with quote

jdog2050 wrote:
I'm editing something from an Aussie company.

Would you guys say "catering for" or "catering to"?

As in:

Catering to young learners
Catering for young learners


Catering to... - is a better option but both are acceptable.

Think of it this way, if the product/service is to be sold directly to a certain demographic - in this case, young learners.
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AussieGav



Joined: 02 Sep 2007
Location: Uijeongbu

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is "to" for the reasons mentioned above.
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The evil penguin



Joined: 24 May 2003
Location: Doing something naughty near you.....

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Aussies--aussie english question Reply with quote

sigmundsmith wrote:
jdog2050 wrote:
I'm editing something from an Aussie company.

Would you guys say "catering for" or "catering to"?

As in:

Catering to young learners
Catering for young learners


Catering to... - is a better option but both are acceptable.

Think of it this way, if the product/service is to be sold directly to a certain demographic - in this case, young learners.


I'm probably wrong (i usually am) but i'd assume it depends on the context. I would say "The teacher dumbed down his lesson as he was catering to a class full of korean students". While he was teaching, his wife was busy cooking in the school kitchen. She was catering for the advanced class of Japanese students.

Whether or not an actual distinction applies outside of my own mind- i don't know. But thats what i would generally use the word.
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Jeff's Cigarettes



Joined: 27 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe ur doing editing if u need to ask... Laughing
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff's Cigarettes wrote:
I can't believe ur doing editing if u need to ask... Laughing


AWESOME COMMENTARY.
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Chris_Dixon



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its catering for??? (both are right, but im pretty sure for is used)

You guys aussies???
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The evil penguin



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris_Dixon wrote:
I think its catering for??? (both are right, but im pretty sure for is used)

You guys aussies???


I see it as being somehting on the lines of 'direction of action'. I'm sure there is actually a proper grammatical term for it somewhere.

Such as: I am doing it to my friends sister. We are doing it for my internet audience.

Same kind of distinction as 'talking to' and talking 'with'. Subtle differences in meaning. Pedantics.
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Thewhiteyalbum



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the context. I would say 'to' in this context.
But what I want to know is what has it got to do with being 'aussie'? Do we not all use the same grammar? grammar is either correct or incorrect and it doesn't matter whether you are a Brit, American, Aussie. Am I right?
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jdog2050



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thewhiteyalbum wrote:
Depends on the context. I would say 'to' in this context.
But what I want to know is what has it got to do with being 'aussie'? Do we not all use the same grammar? grammar is either correct or incorrect and it doesn't matter whether you are a Brit, American, Aussie. Am I right?


Not necessarily. I'm from Illinois and we constantly finish sentences with prepositions.
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michaelambling



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh boy.

Catering for students = making them sandwiches
Catering to students = providing them with services

And, yes, you should not be editing...
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michaelambling



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jdog2050 wrote:
Thewhiteyalbum wrote:
Depends on the context. I would say 'to' in this context.
But what I want to know is what has it got to do with being 'aussie'? Do we not all use the same grammar? grammar is either correct or incorrect and it doesn't matter whether you are a Brit, American, Aussie. Am I right?


Not necessarily. I'm from Illinois and we constantly finish sentences with prepositions.


And you think that's an Illinois thing? Rolling Eyes
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jdog2050



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

michaelambling wrote:
Oh boy.

Catering for students = making them sandwiches
Catering to students = providing them with services

And, yes, you should not be editing...


DAVE'S ESL CAFE.

What do you mean "do I think it's an Illinois thing?" It is.

Anyway, I was going to change the brochure regardless, just checking to see if it's an Aussie thing. We've checked stuff from this company before (A big name company, but I won't name it), and it's becoming obvious that their editing is shoddier than we'd expect from a western "finished" product. That, on top of the fact that there's plenty of Aussie-isms in their texts that I have to clean up. In other words, it was such a glaring error, repeated about twice in the document, that I had to check more out of curiosity.

The assholery on this board...


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T-J



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The evil penguin wrote:



Such as: I am doing it to my friends sister. We are doing it for my internet audience.





Quote of the week. Laughing Laughing
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thewhiteyalbum wrote:
Depends on the context. I would say 'to' in this context.
But what I want to know is what has it got to do with being 'aussie'? Do we not all use the same grammar? grammar is either correct or incorrect and it doesn't matter whether you are a Brit, American, Aussie. Am I right?




British English: "I'd you to come all this way and it's not ready"
Am. English "I'd hate FOR you to come all this way and it's not ready"

Is one correct or incorrect? No. Prepositions differ from country to country and dialect to dialect, and these differences must be considered if you're going to be an editor.
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