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sobriquet



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:58 pm    Post subject: Typical Korean reaction Reply with quote

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Oxford student killed himself hours after being told PhD thesis wasn't good enough

By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 5:45 PM on 25th February 2009

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An Oxford University student killed himself just hours after being told his PhD thesis needed to be improved, an inquest has heard.

A coroner was told how former Buddhist monk Juncnok Park hanged himself after what he saw was a colossal disappointment and an embarrassment.

The criticism was probably the first time the South Korean mature student had ever failed at anything in his life.

Wolfson College, Oxford University

Oxford University student Juncnok Park, who attended Wolfson College, killed himself after being told his PhD thesis needed to be improved

The inquest heard how Mr Park, who had served ten years under holy orders in his native country, shunned television and other pastimes to devote himself to gaining a doctorate in Buddhism.

It was hours after his academic supervisor confirmed his fears - that examiners believed he was not yet ready to be awarded a doctorate from the university - that the 37-year-old student took his life.

Police were called to Wolfson College, Oxford, on Friday, July 18 last year after a cleaner found Mr Park's bedroom door blocked and noticed blood on the floor.

Police constable Henry Gillingham, of Thames Valley Police, who was joined by a paramedic, said: 'I immediately attempted to open it. I barged the door and a male's body fell on to a table pushed up against the door.'

PC Gillingham shouldered the door open, causing Mr Park's body to tumble on to his bed and then to the floor.

The paramedic confirmed that the scholar was dead.

Consultant pathologist Dr Nicholas Hunt gave the cause of death as hanging, despite wounds inflicted on his wrists.

Mr Park, from Incheon, near Seoul, arrived at Oxford University in 2003 on a scholarship to read Oriental Studies, with a doctorate in Buddhism.

Lance Cousins, a fellow of Wolfson College and one of Mr Park's two supervisors, said the student had already completed his thesis and returned to Oxford from South Korea for an interview on it with two examiners.

He had been due to return to Korea the day after he died.

But Mr Park began to worry after receiving no feedback, and at lunch with Mr Cousins on July 17 - the day before his body was found - he asked what the outcome was.

'He was extremely well thought of,' said Mr Cousins, of Mr Park's academic standing.

'He was very committed to what he believed in. As a student he was very capable.'

He added that he had not expected the student to be found wanting by the examiners.

Describing the scholar's attitude to the news, he told the inquest in Oxford: 'He was clearly not very happy and worried about it, but it was difficult for me without the final report.

'I was urging him to wait and see what he actually got.'

When asked by the coroner if he was concerned for his student, Mr Cousins said: 'No. I was a little worried about the longer term but it simply didn't occur to me that there might be a more immediate problem.'

He added that Mr Park would have considered the news an embarrassment and something which could badly affect his prospects back home.

Sowon Park, a friend of the undergraduate and the last person to see him alive, described him as 'an exceptional student.'

She said: 'He had been a Buddhist priest for about ten years and had a very calm, detached manner about him.

'When I saw him he told me it (the interview) hadn't gone well and he told me he didn't know if he would get his degree or not.

'This must have been a real shock to him as he had never failed anything in his life.'

Oxfordshire Coroner Nicholas Gardiner said: 'It is very clear that Mr Park took the bad news, or what he perceived to be bad news, not very well.

'It would have been an embarrassment to him. He took his own life.
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caniff



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Typical Korean reaction Reply with quote

sobriquet wrote:
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Oxfordshire Coroner Nicholas Gardiner said: 'It is very clear that Mr Park took the bad news, or what he perceived to be bad news, not very well.



Bit of an understatement.
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Jeff's Cigarettes



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reckon perhaps he thought he had failed in his Han.
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aquaponics08



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An Oriental Studies student dies by his own Han?!?
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sobriquet



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He had been due to return to Korea the day after he died.



This is an odd statement
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking he wasn't too happy. At least he'll be home soon.
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Cerriowen



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And that's why I make it a point to tell all my students, starting as young as possible, that they're failures and will fail my classes. That way they are more stable individuals when they grow up Twisted Evil

Except for the emotional scarring that is... Wink
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it's funny.

Me: "Tell me about a time when your parents were disappointed in you."

Student: "When I 93 in test."

Me: "93? What's wrong with that? Repeat after me. When I ONLY GOT 93 ON A test."

Student: "When I only got 93 on a test. Oh, it is... so bad."

Me: "Ha! Do you think you're getting 93 in this class?"
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aquaponics08 wrote:
An Asian Studies student dies by his own Han?!?


fixed that for you.
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samd



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the point of posting this article? To use a guys suicide as an excuse to have a go at Korea? Pretty low OP.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

samd wrote:
What's the point of posting this article? To use a guys suicide as an excuse to have a go at Korea? Pretty low OP.


You know, it IS possible to read an interesting story, like this one, and NOT have a go at Korea. It was an interesting story, and it shows how some people take things a bit too seriously. Doesn't mean we have to condemn all of Korea for it. There are better reasons for that. Razz
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Guri Guy



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a shame what happened. Students commiting suicide is all too common in South Korea. Sad

I am curious how Buddhists view suicide. Question
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sobriquet



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guri Guy wrote:
It's a shame what happened. Students commiting suicide is all too common in South Korea. Sad

I am curious how Buddhists view suicide. Question


Not sure in the Korean version of Buddhism.
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Guri Guy



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point. The Korean view of Christianity sure seems different to me so I guess Buddhists wouldn't be the same here as well.


Here are a Korean Buddhist's views on it:

Dharma Talks/Teachings
Beopjeong Sunim's Dharma Talk 2008 October


Suicide Only Contributes to the Self-destroying Karma

These kind of natural wonders are all around us. However, not many of us know how to enjoy the fresh air and bright moon. Rivers and mountains originally have no owner. Those who can appreciate their sight and feel are the owners of the rivers and mountains. It is because we only look outside that we are caught by external conditions and traps, and we do not discover these things (natural wonders).

There are many who take their own life in this wonderful age. More than 30 people per day cannot overcome that day to commit suicide. It�s never something to be proud of, but the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development lists with the highest per capita suicide rate.

There�s nothing as precious and valuable as life. This life can only be lived once. Yet we throw aside such a life. Even at this moment, countless patients are tied to respiratory machines to live a few more minutes of life. It is a disgraceful act to cast aside this magnanimous life. To take one�s life never relieves one from suffering. Death is not the end, but the beginning of another life.

Suicide creates �self-destroying karma� which chains us to Samsara. Ultimately, suicide only contributes to the self-destroying karma. Everything we see, hear, or say becomes karma. This can never finish all at once. Like the law of inertia, this becomes habit and karmic force, and then to karmic residue.

Anyone can have the impulse to commit suicide. However, as time passes we would discover the reason is that we could not free ourselves from the chains of anguish. Suffering does not last. If there are clear days, there will be cloudy days. Our lives are always changing, not static. Not only external conditions, but our thoughts also change. Even a sense of hopelessness, which seems like will never end, is only temporary.

Even those who were ready to cast aside the world by suicide, if they could have broken free from their temporary desperate trap to see widely everyday life with a clear head; they could have broken out of their extreme view to have started their life anew with a wider perspective. They could not break free from the extreme view of �only this way,� to commit an unthinkable act. None of us must fall victim to temporary thoughts. To say again, nothing is fixed, everything changes.

http://www.koreanbuddhism.net/master/dharma_talk_view.asp?cat_seq=32&content_seq=511&priest_seq=21&page=1

Mind you, I guess there might be differing views on the subject.

Buddhist Monk Attempts Suicide in Protest
Sat, 2008-08-30 17:04 � ABN

This story from The Korea Times says the monks was trying to kill himself; other news reports claim he slashed himself in protest. ABN
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A South Korean Buddhist monk Saturday attempted to disembowel himself in protest against what he claims to be religious discrimination by the government, Yonhap News reported quoting police.

According to police, Ven. Sambo wrote a note in his blood reading "Stop discriminating against Buddhism" and attempted a suicide at Jogye Temple in central Seoul. He was taken to a hospital and police said he is not in a life-threatening condition.

http://www.americanbuddhist.net/buddhist-monk-attempts-suicide-protest
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Regarding Ven. Sambo's suicide attempt Sunday, Ven. Seungwon advised fellow Buddhists that they should express their demands in a peaceful way.

``Ven. Sambo attempted to disembowel himself based on the `webeopmanggu' (willing to hurt the flesh for justice and law) spirit. Our beliefs of trying to end religious discrimination and realize public harmony must be carried out peacefully and abide by Buddhist teachings, not radical actions,'' he added.

http://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?id=45,7048,0,0,1,0
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Viaje



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its ironic that a Buddhist would kill himself over a disappointment. Not that a Korean or Asian would, because that is common with the academic pressure they have to do well. But a Buddhist is taught to accept suffering and to not be attached to things, and even the Phd is a form of attachment--its ok to want it but if denied they would teach not to let it be so important; and it can be rectified by resubmitting the thesis. My feeling is that he behaved in the end more like a pressured Asian student, rather than like a Buddhist. Its doubly ironic that the Phd was in Buddhism. Sad story.
I heard recently that there are many suicides happening now in Japan, due to people losing their jobs.
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