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desultude
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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I just finished my first year and I'm coming back for another. Korea has been a blast ... a complete party.... I love drinking to 8 in the morning ... I love Korean women hitting on me like there is no tomorrow ... but (and I am sure that I am wrong) is not this country complete bullocks?!? Honestly, I would love if y'all prove me otherwise, but as far as I've been able to tell, this country is so weak. Nothing rare that makes this country unique. As far as I've been able to tell this place has done its best to grab the best of the US, Japan, and China, and tried to make its own place.
First, lets speak on the fact that they owe their very existence to the US and the UN, yet there are so many here that completely hate the US (@#$%, doesn't anyone in this country study history??) |
Argh! I would say something critical about this, but it is after 8 A.M., so you are out drinking. Whats the point. This is some really really ignorant crap. I'll save my breath. |
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Hank Scorpio
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Beg to differ.
The Banjo- an American original.
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It really is too bad that the banjo's gotten such a backwoods, hillbilly reputation, because it is just a friggin' awesome sounding instrument. Listen to some classic bluegrass stuff and some of those banjo pickers will blow your mind. It's the same way that I probably prefer the American style of violin playing (fiddlin') over the more refined European tradition. It just has a more appealing sound to me.
Anyway, we also have jazz, blues, rock & roll, the first detective novel, and hell let's not forget pretty much every modern invention and form of media from the past 50 years. Not too shabby for a 200 year old upstart republic. |
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Korea Newfie
Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Newfoundland and Labrador
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Korea does owe some of its existance to the US and UN, but I should also point out that Korea is a divided country because of the US and USSR.
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And? When you say "point out" do you mean you have a point to make? If so, what is it? Should the Americans, who the Koreans by and large despise, have backed out and let the Soviets have influence over all of the country, and probably expand its influence in Eastern Asia?
It's always sad to see how people (Koreans and apologists) are quick to point out America's role in 'tearing the country apart' but not as quick to think about the alternative. While they might not like to admit it, I'm sure Koreans like playing on their cell phones and other toys, pretending to be an advanced country, much more than they'd like to endure mass hunger and dictatorial rule. |
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DDDstylee
Joined: 07 Oct 2003
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 6:30 pm Post subject: "DDD" Life in korea |
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Perhaps checking out this magazine will help you rethink Korea...
perhaps not but you can think with it.
www.lifeinkorea.org
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Canucksaram
Joined: 29 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:50 am Post subject: Oxymorons. |
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Sometimes I cannot help but think that the words "Korean" and "culture" are oxymorons.
I have Korean friends whom I love and respect, but the "culture" as a whole leaves a whole lot to be desired. |
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tokki
Joined: 26 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:58 am Post subject: Re: Oxymorons. |
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| Canucksaram wrote: |
Sometimes I cannot help but think that the words "Korean" and "culture" are oxymorons.
I have Korean friends whom I love and respect, but the "culture" as a whole leaves a whole lot to be desired. |
Im a canuck too...and I wonder what you have to say about the culture back home. Not only did we totally rip off American culture, we werent even smart enough to rip off a good culture. |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:03 am Post subject: Re: Oxymorons. |
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| tokki wrote: |
| Im a canuck too...and I wonder what you have to say about the culture back home. Not only did we totally rip off American culture, we werent even smart enough to rip off a good culture. |
Canadian culture didn't rip off American culture. We're two countries who have developed side by side and so have our cultures. |
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ohahakehte
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The State of Denial
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:11 am Post subject: Re: Korean culture ... please help |
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[quote="Mr. Pink"]
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| First, lets speak on the fact that they owe their very existence to the US and the UN, yet there are so many here that completely hate the US (@#$%, doesn't anyone in this country study history??) |
Try Europe buddy. If it wasn't for the Marshall Plan and AMERICA, Europe would have taken decades to get back on it's feet. I don't see a lot of people LOVING America over there either.
I'd say a LOT of countires owe their existence to America and there will always be SOME who hate America because of this fact. |
im not going to argue with anyone on this issue, done enough of it already, but i have a project for some people.
just for the sake of argument, why dont you research the background to this kind of thinking where you're angry at these dumb little korean or european peasants for "biting the hand that feeds them"? i think this mindset is complete BS: that everyone owes the world's superpower for its unbounded kindness and selfless giving so all of their wretched societies, so disgustingly depraved and undemocratic compared to the US, could go on living out their unhappy little lives. im not asking you to abandon your beliefs on america, if anything, research these issues just so you can refute ungrateful democracy-hating bleeding hearts like me. is it w/i your realm of thinkable thought that america has *any* bad in it? |
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ryleeys
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Columbia, MD
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So, lemme get this straight?
Anytime a person says anything about American politics, we are required to discuss in detail every single bad thing the United States has done just to justify arguing the the United States has done a few good things too?
Boy, that's gonna be a long post. |
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ohahakehte
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The State of Denial
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:19 am Post subject: |
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So, lemme get this straight?
Anytime a person says anything about American politics, we are required to discuss in detail every single bad thing the United States has done just to justify arguing the the United States has done a few good things too?
Boy, that's gonna be a long post. |
i dont mean do it on this forum. do it for yourself. my proposal is more just rhetorical. just wondering whats possible for some people |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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How do you explain California culture? Alaskan culture? Hawaiin culture? BC culture? Newfie culture? southern culture? new england culture? southwest american culture? etc.
How do they tie in with being American culture? Canadian culture? |
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ohahakehte
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The State of Denial
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:27 am Post subject: |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
How do you explain California culture? Alaskan culture? Hawaiin culture? BC culture? Newfie culture? southern culture? new england culture? southwest american culture? etc.
How do they tie in with being American culture? Canadian culture? |
just in ontario theres big differences in regional cultures. theres definitely several sub-cultures in toronto. theres a marked difference b/w north-western ontarians and southern ontarians. i learned that first hand while treeplanting north of thunder bay. i guess it makes sense considering a huge chunk of canada's population is in ontario. |
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ryleeys
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Columbia, MD
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Well lets see, since I've been studying the history of international relations for 4 years, have I earned the right to post on the topic every once in a while?
Am I allowed to say that America has done a few good things in the last 228 years or that I like to call it "soccer"? |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Yeah, exactly.. same in my State of Michigan.. people down 'in the city' are significantly different than 'up north' and by the time you get to the Upper Peninsula.. forget about it.. log cabins, trees, fishing, national forests everywhere.. not even close.
Totally different than L.A. TV culture. Or 'Sex and they City, Seinfeld, etc. NYC culture. Totally different from southern 'dukes of hazzard' etc. or other perceived 'American culture'. |
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ohahakehte
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The State of Denial
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 4:30 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, exactly.. same in my State of Michigan.. people down 'in the city' are significantly different than 'up north' and by the time you get to the Upper Peninsula.. forget about it.. log cabins, trees, fishing, national forests everywhere.. not even close.
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sounds exactly like northern vs southern ontario. since northern michigan and northern ontario are geographically and environmentally similar, the culture i imagine is also very similar. i found northerners in ontario to be much more into outdoors activities - makes sense with all the beautiful parks and rivers and lakes up there. many in the south would see northerners to be "hickish" and theres some truth to that, but they see southerners as stuck up and eccentric in their tastes. in a country the size of canada, theres no way there could be some kind of pan-canadian culture. some people in canada like to talk as if there is, but i think thats just cheesy and a desperate attempt to feel different. for a while now ive been pondering what it even means to be canadian in a country so big with a such a vast diversity of climatic and environmental zones. maybe all some of us have in common is english and white skin?
you're from michigan eh? where exactly? ive been to a few parties in detroit and find it to be an underrated city. i guess im biased as an electronic music fiend and techno scenester. detroit has a mystique for me because of that. |
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