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mrgisa
Joined: 30 Oct 2008
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 Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:08 am Post subject: |
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This is why your neighbors hate you. |
Hate to say it, but this was an uphill battle from the FIRST day we moved in (re the boxes in the hallway). I was surprised not only at her tone, but how quick she was to establish that SHE was the boss who had the senority as we had just moved in. I look at other floors when I go down in the apartment and I see bicycles, etc...clearly they are okay with stuff in the hall. I don't mind but the point was, she gave us @#$#@ within 2-4 hours of moving in.
I can understand about the boxes as they are a fire hazard but the first thing I said to my wife after that happened was this: the @#$#@ has no tact. We moved the boxes as she suggested and never put them out again.
My wife had every right to refuse what the neighbour was saying. The neighour did not want to compromise or give us a chance. She was basically demanding that we cut his vocal chords and started yelling and freaking out when my wife simply stated no.
Time goes on, she slams her door repeatedly, swears in the hall...and then the day the @#$# snapped, she points her finger into my wife's forehead and attacks my wife after my wife defended herself verbally. Later the @#$#@ lied to the police and we all knew it, even them. Realizing that the *I'm older than you so I can do whatever I want card* can't work when it comes to physically assaulting someone made her sober up. Realizing we could sue her for what she did made her quite humble. I'm sure her husband was less than thrilled...
Lastly, we have no problems with the husband. He even offered to give us a ride home after the incident and apologized to both of us.
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did you read the part about the noise his neighbors make?
seriously, every time i complained about noise in my building when it happened in my seoul apartment, it fell on deaf ears. not just deaf ears, but sets of ears that clearly screamed from the hilltops "i can't possibly see why you would be complaining!"
koreans, especially city-dwellers, have an uncommon tolerance for noise. scroll back to how many foreigners get scolded on this site by superforeigner douchebags for complaining about the vegetable truck, the gum-cracking ajumma, the drunk firstborn son arguing with his girlfriend outside your window at 2am, the "only hot when she wears makeup" salarywoman clack-clack-clacking down the granite stairs as loud as possible because she missed too many lessons at walking hagwon......
and THEN condemn this guy who has a dog who barks occasionally. seriously. some of the responses in this thread astound me for how little you all know where you are and where you stand.
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TY for defending my point of view. This is not the first dog I've helped to raise. Believe me, my wife and I yell at our dog and punish him if he barks and I'm not embellishing or twisting the truth when I say that he rarely barks. If he barked 24-7, we'd do something about it. I wouldn't have a right to complain in that case. He only barks if we tease him (which we rarely do now) and when we leave and for a short time. We've actually left and waited to see how long he barks for and he generally calms down within 5 minutes.
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if it was the other way around, him posting a thread complaining about his neighbor's dog, i seriously doubt if the scales would tip in favor of this ajumma, who is clearly a bit touched upstairs and is abusing "korean culture" to satisfy her own bitterness about the fact that she hasn't had an orgasm since birth.
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This was EXACTLY what I was thinking about her. Thank you. I sometimes wonder if she'd do this #$%^& if I was Korean...
And supposing that even if my dog did bark like mad, what gives her the right to steal our bill and a package? The @#$#@ knows that we will be moving come August? She can't endure for 5 months, while our dog barks less and less? Even after we decided not to sue her?
IF she stole our mail and I can prove it, I will do whatever it takes to make sure she gets fully punished. I just hope that my package is late and that there was a mixup with the bill...
In the meantime, I guess I'll have to use my school's address for packages. I hope this situation never happens to any of you good folks...
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Teelo
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Wellington, NZ
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:35 am Post subject: |
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| Kimbop wrote: |
| Change your mailing address to a PO box at the post office. |
This. I learned to do this a loooooong time ago. |
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crosbystillsstash
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:36 am Post subject: |
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| Your neighbor is on to your Mary Jane comfort packages! |
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Straphanger
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| mrgisa wrote: |
| We've actually left and waited to see how long he barks for and he generally calms down within 5 minutes. |
5 minutes? If you were my neighbor, I'd ask you to shut that dog up as soon as you got back.
If it happened again, I would do it myself. |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| Straphanger wrote: |
| mrgisa wrote: |
| We've actually left and waited to see how long he barks for and he generally calms down within 5 minutes. |
5 minutes? If you were my neighbor, I'd ask you to shut that dog up as soon as you got back.
If it happened again, I would do it myself. |
and if you did that in korea, to a korean, you'd spend the next 5 minutes to 2 days wondering why you got locked up.
five minutes of barking is nothing in a korean city. a hot-under-the-collar waegookin who is trying to prove his dick isn't small by throwing his weight around his apartment building... well that's just a recipe for embarrassing failure.
and then you get out of jail and have to live in the same building still and your neighbors laugh at you daily and their dog still barks. and maybe the male member of the family hits you with a piece of 2x4 and gets away with it the next time you pound on the door frothing at the mouth about how you went to bed at 4am and need sleep to get up for work at 2pm.
yeah, you wouldn't do anything. all talk, STFU. |
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ryoga013
Joined: 23 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:29 am Post subject: |
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For your mail you can place a package with specially super-staining ink and something under a little bit of pressure. Getting the ink all over the person who opens the package.
If there are potted plants outside and you have a digital camera with a nonstop movie function, you can set it up and wait. There may also be a small door at the bottom of your door that you could set the trap up with. Place a mirror at an angle across the way, small one, or even a broken one and when they pick up the box, the camera should have a decent picture of what they are wearing if not a head shot.
| berrieh wrote: |
Don't get the dog's cords cut! That's barbaric.
Most dogs can be trained not to bark indoors. Spray them with a water bottle, yell at them, whatever they find offensive enough to understand it means BAD - DON'T DO, and they learn by constant repetition of stimuli. There are no bad dogs. Only bad dog owners. |
There are retarded dogs and there are dogs that should be killed. To say there are only bad owners is to say that everyone is only an end result of their parents and masters. Some dogs cannot be pets. If you are a person that wants to keep the animal anyways, then it's not a bad owner, it's a stupid person. I hope that this is not the case for your dog as there are still many dogs that can be pets if in the right environment. |
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Hyeon Een
Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| Straphanger wrote: |
| mrgisa wrote: |
| We've actually left and waited to see how long he barks for and he generally calms down within 5 minutes. |
5 minutes? If you were my neighbor, I'd ask you to shut that dog up as soon as you got back.
If it happened again, I would do it myself. |
Am I the only person on this board who would laugh out loud if an adjosshi smashed a large bottle of beer over your head then threatened to slash you with the remaining shards and said, in perfect English, "I don't hate you because you're a foreigner, I think you're a stupid c*nt because of the way you speak, type and act, you useless *beep*" |
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Forward Observer
Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Location: FOB Gloria
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Hyeon Een wrote: |
| Straphanger wrote: |
| mrgisa wrote: |
| We've actually left and waited to see how long he barks for and he generally calms down within 5 minutes. |
5 minutes? If you were my neighbor, I'd ask you to shut that dog up as soon as you got back.
If it happened again, I would do it myself. |
Am I the only person on this board who would laugh out loud if an adjosshi smashed a large bottle of beer over your head then threatened to slash you with the remaining shards and said, in perfect English, "I don't hate you because you're a foreigner, I think you're a stupid c*nt because of the way you speak, type and act, you useless *beep*" |
No, you wouldn't be the only one. The real question you should be asking yourself, is who would be laughing the hardest. 
btw, Hyeon Een - pm'ing you some email addys for that thing you were asking me about last week. |
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berrieh
Joined: 10 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| ryoga013 wrote: |
| berrieh wrote: |
Don't get the dog's cords cut! That's barbaric.
Most dogs can be trained not to bark indoors. Spray them with a water bottle, yell at them, whatever they find offensive enough to understand it means BAD - DON'T DO, and they learn by constant repetition of stimuli. There are no bad dogs. Only bad dog owners. |
There are retarded dogs and there are dogs that should be killed. To say there are only bad owners is to say that everyone is only an end result of their parents and masters. Some dogs cannot be pets. If you are a person that wants to keep the animal anyways, then it's not a bad owner, it's a stupid person. I hope that this is not the case for your dog as there are still many dogs that can be pets if in the right environment. |
I don't have a dog right now. I wish! I had a black lab, but gave her away to a friend when I moved last year because I didn't have enough time for her or space in my new apartment. (Now, she has kids to play with, though, and a good home.)
I was saying that colloquially; it's a common saying. For the most part, it's true. Most bad dogs simply haven't been trained properly by their owners. Dogs (like most humans) will carry on with as much bad behavior as they get away with.
Of course, a dog who was literally brain-damaged could exist, but most of the time, one wouldn't. I've yet to meet anyone who has a "mentally disabled" dog. I imagine they get "put down" rather quickly. |
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llj2kll
Joined: 23 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Put in your mailbox a letter that says "We know what you are doing. Stop this before we sue you." (P.S.- If this is the mailman, excuse this letter) |
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jsk
Joined: 31 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Coming from a fellow dog owner back home, your dog is too noisy for apartment living. A dog barking for 5 minutes after both of you leave is extremely annoying. While both of you are away, it's almost certain to be barking again out of boredom or loneliness. With the lack of noise insulation in many Korean apartments, I would have filed noise complaints too if I was the neighbor. |
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Straphanger
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| uberscheisse wrote: |
| Straphanger wrote: |
| mrgisa wrote: |
| We've actually left and waited to see how long he barks for and he generally calms down within 5 minutes. |
5 minutes? If you were my neighbor, I'd ask you to shut that dog up as soon as you got back.
If it happened again, I would do it myself. |
and if you did that in korea, to a korean, you'd spend the next 5 minutes to 2 days wondering why you got locked up.
five minutes of barking is nothing in a korean city. a hot-under-the-collar waegookin who is trying to prove his dick isn't small by throwing his weight around his apartment building... well that's just a recipe for embarrassing failure.
and then you get out of jail and have to live in the same building still and your neighbors laugh at you daily and their dog still barks. and maybe the male member of the family hits you with a piece of 2x4 and gets away with it the next time you pound on the door frothing at the mouth about how you went to bed at 4am and need sleep to get up for work at 2pm.
yeah, you wouldn't do anything. all talk, STFU. |
Maybe in armpit Seoul, you would be right. Here, my neighbors upstairs have two students in my hakwon, next door, the husband played soccer against the previous foreign teacher, that's how I know him, and they introduced me to the neighbor below me, and together, we introduced that neighbor to this little pad that goes on the interior sliding door so it doesn't slam when it hits the wall.
That's called being a good neighbor. Do you know your neighbors? |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Straphanger wrote: |
| uberscheisse wrote: |
| Straphanger wrote: |
| mrgisa wrote: |
| We've actually left and waited to see how long he barks for and he generally calms down within 5 minutes. |
5 minutes? If you were my neighbor, I'd ask you to shut that dog up as soon as you got back.
If it happened again, I would do it myself. |
and if you did that in korea, to a korean, you'd spend the next 5 minutes to 2 days wondering why you got locked up.
five minutes of barking is nothing in a korean city. a hot-under-the-collar waegookin who is trying to prove his dick isn't small by throwing his weight around his apartment building... well that's just a recipe for embarrassing failure.
and then you get out of jail and have to live in the same building still and your neighbors laugh at you daily and their dog still barks. and maybe the male member of the family hits you with a piece of 2x4 and gets away with it the next time you pound on the door frothing at the mouth about how you went to bed at 4am and need sleep to get up for work at 2pm.
yeah, you wouldn't do anything. all talk, STFU. |
Maybe in armpit Seoul, you would be right. Here, my neighbors upstairs have two students in my hakwon, next door, the husband played soccer against the previous foreign teacher, that's how I know him, and they introduced me to the neighbor below me, and together, we introduced that neighbor to this little pad that goes on the interior sliding door so it doesn't slam when it hits the wall.
That's called being a good neighbor. Do you know your neighbors? |
oh - so you know your neighbors well, you see them often and have decent relationship with them.
that is why you would "shut your neighbor's dog up yourself"? please spare me.
"oh hi, mr. kim. top of the morning to you! oh, i see you're walking little "po-po" today. hold still, popo, i'm going to crush your larynx because i didn't get enough pre-hagwon beauty sleep this afternoon. i hope you don't mind, mr. kim. (CRUSH) ("SQUEAL, WHINE, GASP, DIE") righty-oh then, cheerio, best be on my way now!"
your neighbors sound reasonable - that's what's known as a "lucky break." clearly the OP is in a very different situation. we refer to similar situations as "unlucky". "lucky breaks" are not the norm.
maybe if there was a barking dog in your situation, your neighbors would be helpful, understanding and kind, and if they weren't, then just mayyybe the authorities, i.e. landlord, police, maaaayyy help you out. but if that were to happen, it would also be very uncharacteristic of a country that generally doesn't give a damn about noise and some white guy complaining about something the locals don't really notice. |
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lorenchristopher
Joined: 25 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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I would have to agree that a barking dog next door is probably one of the most annoying things in a living situation. You said it "generally stops barking after 5 minutes"......generally?!? And yeah what about after that, I'm sure it barks some more.
I would be stressed and angry if I was your neighbor, and certainly would have filed a complaint by now. Sorry....I love dogs, but an apartment is not the place for them if they're yapping about, even if it's for a few minutes a day. |
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Straphanger
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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your neighbors sound reasonable - that's what's known as a "lucky break." clearly the OP is in a very different situation. we refer to similar situations as "unlucky". "lucky breaks" are not the norm.
maybe if there was a barking dog in your situation, your neighbors would be helpful, understanding and kind, and if they weren't, then just mayyybe the authorities, i.e. landlord, police, maaaayyy help you out. but if that were to happen, it would also be very uncharacteristic of a country that generally doesn't give a damn about noise and some white guy complaining about something the locals don't really notice. |
There's no lucky break here, buddy boy, just good old-fashioned American home-grown hospitality on the part of four years of Foreign Teachers living in this apartment. If there was a yapping dog for 5 minutes, nay, 4 minutes, or even 3, more than once, next-door-guy and I would probably have to kai-bai-boh to see who would get the chance to squirt laxative-laced dunkassu sauce under the door.
Assah! |
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