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linky123



Joined: 12 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:28 am    Post subject: Pension Reply with quote

Do you get deducted for pension? If so, what percentage of your salary is deducted. Does your employer shoulder 50% of the contribution? Is this separate from the severance pay you will receive at the end of the contract?

Also, if you could, If your salary is 4mil, do you pay a different rate of tax than people who make around 2.4 mil?
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losing_touch



Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Location: Ulsan - I think!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pension is 4.5% of your salary. This will be matched by your employer. The total should be 9%.

You can check what your tax withholding should be here: http://www.nts.go.kr/eng/help/help_52.asp?top_code=H001&sub_code=HS05&ssub_code=HSE2
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losing_touch



Joined: 26 Jun 2008
Location: Ulsan - I think!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it is NOT the same thing as severance ....
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big_fella1



Joined: 08 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pension and severance are different.

My employer is paying 4.5% of my taxable income.
As foreigners get a 30% tax break they pay 4.5% on 70% of my income and I pay 4.5% on 70% of my income.

Many Korean institutes claim that their employees (Korean and foreign) are business contractors and they don't have to pay pension or national health insurance.

Has anyone successfully fought being registered as a business contractor?
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linky123



Joined: 12 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently, for those with F series visa can choose to work as a contractor (usually the hourly pay contracts) and not subject to all the immigration policies such as NHI or Pension subsidized by the institute. However, as a contractor, you do enjoy some privilege such as prematurely ending the contract without consequences from the immigration law.
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Snowflake



Joined: 12 Dec 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_fella1 wrote:
Pension and severance are different.

My employer is paying 4.5% of my taxable income.
As foreigners get a 30% tax break they pay 4.5% on 70% of my income and I pay 4.5% on 70% of my income.





I've never heard of this tax break before - I'm irritated by the fact that I'm paying over 100k a month into a pot I'll never get my hands on (unless I retire here of course). If there was any way to reduce this I'd be slightly happier. Is this for all foreigners or just certain nationalities?
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Omkara



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Location: USA

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, do we earn an interest on pension? I've heard we do, but it is at the rate of the market interest, and I don't know what that is presently.

Can anyone enlighten me?
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Big Mac



Joined: 17 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Fella, I've never heard of the 70 per cent thing before. At all the jobs I've had in Korea, they've paid 4.5 per cent of my salary into pension...that's all of it. I have also paid tax on all of my salary. The only exception I know if is for people who are not Canadian at public schools. They don't have to pay tax for the first two years.
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big_fella1



Joined: 08 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dealing with the questions in reverse order.

Big Mac:

A foreigner may choose either non-taxable treatment on 30% of gross wage & salary income(30% Exemption Method) or separate taxation of wage & salary income(including non-taxable wage & salary income) by multiplying such income by 17/100, which is preferential to him/her. In selecting separation taxation(the latter), provisions concerning such exemption, deduction, reduction and tax credit shall not be applicable(17% Flat Rate Method). source [http://www.nts.go.kr/eng/help/help_53.asp]

Not very clear but what they are saying is that you can choose a 30% exemption with deductions or a flat rate of 17% with no deductions whichever is favourable to you. I have been told you need to be on about w150,000,000 per year to make the 17% rate more favourable but I am not an expert.

Snowflake:


The contribution is calculated by multiplying the insured person'sStandard Monthly Incomeby contribution rate. source [http://www.nps.or.kr/jsppage/english/scheme/scheme_02.jsp]

It seems to depend what your employer declares your standard monthly income to be. As I get my pension money back I am actually unhappy with my employers pension calculation. I complained once at the pension office and was told that my employers calculation was okay. I should get onto this again and it may be worth your while to check with your local pension office as well.

Good luck
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Snowflake



Joined: 12 Dec 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_fella1 wrote:


Snowflake:


The contribution is calculated by multiplying the insured person'sStandard Monthly Incomeby contribution rate. source [http://www.nps.or.kr/jsppage/english/scheme/scheme_02.jsp]

It seems to depend what your employer declares your standard monthly income to be. As I get my pension money back I am actually unhappy with my employers pension calculation. I complained once at the pension office and was told that my employers calculation was okay. I should get onto this again and it may be worth your while to check with your local pension office as well.

Good luck


Thanks for that - although it's not the amount I pay that I'm questioning, I know that's correct. It's the not getting back that irritates me!
I am a bit confused about how to get the 30% decrease though - how do you "choose" which contribution you pay?
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Tho25



Joined: 07 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there a deadline for when you have to apply for your pension
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Jeff's Cigarettes



Joined: 27 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before you die.
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big_fella1



Joined: 08 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snowflake wrote:

Thanks for that - although it's not the amount I pay that I'm questioning, I know that's correct. It's the not getting back that irritates me!
I am a bit confused about how to get the 30% decrease though - how do you "choose" which contribution you pay?


I think you need to ask your employer to declare your standard income as 70% of your income to allow for the 30% exemption. I don't know if this is legal though which is why I am going to check with the pension office. I guess we are hoping for different outcomes here.

Cheers
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Omkara



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Location: USA

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do our pension accounts earn interest, or not?

I have heard that this is the case. Anyone have specific information on this?
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Jeff's Cigarettes



Joined: 27 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes.
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