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[NAVFC]

While I myself do also favor launching a criminal investigation and prosecuting ex-president Bush this poll is rather deceptive because it only focuses on one demographic. It would be like me asking FOXnews viewers their opinion of Obama and subsequently trying to use that # for Obama's national approval rating.

[bacasper]

Forwarded:

It turns out the Bush years were far worse than we ever imagined - and we were not shy in our imaginings.

Previously classified internal legal memos released by the Obama administration earlier this week demonstrate that the Bush administration acted under the belief that it had virtually unchecked power after 9/11. The combined effect of the memos, which in theory gave the president the power to deploy the military on our soil, ignore Fourth Amendment protections of our privacy, and even proscribe First Amendment freedom of speech protections, led writer Scott Horton to declare that in the post-9/11 era "this country was a dictatorship."

American Freedom Campaign co-founder Naomi Wolf wrote a powerful piece for Huffington Post conveying her initial reaction to the contents of the memos. She concluded, "We need to stare [the memos] in the face and understand them: they are evidence that the groundwork was laid out that gave the president the legal power to effectively subvert the Republic." Check it out:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/john-yoos-legal-groundwor_b_171552.html

While we are outraged by these memos, we do want to highlight one positive note. The American Freedom Campaign, led by members like you, helped to reverse one of the most objectionable policies - a memo declaring that the president had the power to deploy the military on our soil, a practice long prohibited under federal law. At the end of September 2008, a couple of small media outlets reported that President Bush had assigned the 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Brigade Combat Team to be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army component of Northern Command (NorthCom). In response, AFC helped raise awareness about the potential dangers involved and encouraged members to take action. Just days later, the administration drafted a memo repudiating the earlier memo's authorization of far-reaching domestic military operations.

But certainly the news is not all positive. If you continue to be outraged and disgusted by the actions of Bush administration officials, including John Yoo, who wrote a number of the administration's most notorious memos, such as those authorizing torture, you can take action through existing actions on the AFC Web site. Here are two options:

Send an E-mail to Attorney General Eric Holder, urging him to launch a full criminal investigation of Bush administration activities -- from torture to warrantless wiretapping and beyond -- with prosecutions where it is found that the laws of the United States have been violated. Click here to take action:

http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2165/t/1027/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=26685

Send a strongly worded E-mail to Christopher Edley, Jr, Dean of the UC Berkeley School of Law, urging the dismissal of John Yoo. While the pre-written E-mail on the site is torture-specific, the sentiment remains the same. Here is the link to that action:

http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2165/t/1027/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=24188

We do not intend to let Bush administration officials ride off into the sunset after their widespread assault on our laws and our Constitution. We hope that you will join us as we continue to push for serious accountability.

[Jeff's Cigarettes]

Is this supposed to distract us from Obambi flushing the economy down the crapper. Teh Magic One has been in office all of one month and it's been nothing but a complete disaster.

[bacasper]

Jeff, No OT posts, please.

[Ya-ta Boy]

My concern is upholding the law, particularly on torture. I want to be able to say, "My country does not torture. If it does happen, then the perpetrators are punished." It's looking more and more like there is going to be some kind of truth commission investigation. That may be the way to handle it, it may not.

I'm not a fan of the view that simply being voted out of office is punishment enough for government officials guilty of a crime any more than I am of a bank robber saying, "Let's not obsess with the past. It's time to move on and look to the future."

[Ya-ta Boy]

[The Cosmic Hum]

OT = off topic

[kcs0001]

Are the bloodthirsty leftists going to demand transparency from VP Biden

In case you didn't know, his address to the AFL-CIO was closed to media.

Nice. What will you people do when the tax base is oopso? Try asking the

"diverse" population to pay the bills. Ever read the Golden Goose

metaphor?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/05/cameras-barred-bidens-speech-afl-cio/

[ReeseDog]

Bush will never face charges. He did nothing wrong (unless protecting your sorry a$$ counts, assuming you're an American).

And yes, Jeff, any further hubbub about things past is definitely leftist smoke to cover the truth that their annointed one has forked us worse than any other leader in our short history. Good call.

@#%&*@# lemmings.

[Kuros]

[Gopher]

Still wanting to blame W. Bush for all of this, I see. We do not have the proper perspective to grasp and evaluate all that has happened since 9/11. I think of Tacitus's observations re: "still raging animosities..."

[mises]

[Gopher]

Yes, we can. Blaming B. Obama for the crisis is asinine.

[TexasPete]

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