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jenesis



Joined: 19 Jan 2009
Location: In a town near you

PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:38 pm    Post subject: Six months in...? Reply with quote

Hey all,

My girlfriend and I will be finishing our second public school contract six months or so from now at the beginning of September. We've been thinking (dreaming?) about spending six months (say, September-February) somewhere in SEA or Latin America. We don't want to work during this time. We don't want to travel much either. We've done quite a lot of travelling and just spent winter break in Cambodia and Vietnam.

While we both enjoy travelling, what we really want is six months to just be. We'd love to read, write, paint, hang out etc. for an extended period of time in a lovely (and fairly inexpensive) place. We'd also be working on grad school applications at the time. Has anyone done this sort of thing?

I'm thinking little house, maybe near/nearish water, private and peaceful but not isolated etc. Cambodia? Maybe...

I'm also thinking (with the wonderful current Won-USD exchange rates) about 14-15 000 000 won or 9000-10 000 USD.

I know it's been asked before, but what would you do?

Any input would be sweeeeeeet.

J/




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twaddle



Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Budget might be tighter nowadays but I have some friends who did that in Costa Rica a few years ago. Take a look anyway.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you stay away from the tourist traps you (a couple) can live comfortably for US$200-300 per month in the Philippines.

$500 per month is "quite" comfortable - gets you a 6 month lease on a small (2-3 room) house close to a beach with all your living expenses..

A nice 3 bedroom apartment with maid will run $500 per month in Cebu (if you want to be in the city with all the comforts of home) and a total budget that still runs under $750 per month.

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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is very easy to do...almost 'standard'.

SE ASIA would be best as it sounds like you guys are real eclectic and would probably want to be close to money-centers like Northeast Asia when the money begins to dry out.

I spent 10 months in South America...and its a totally different vibe...more language-study focus and completely different fish. Sounds like if you just want to hangout and study, read, write, and paint...you are better off with SE Asia.

South America is great, but you need more wits and more adventure/out there types of stuff...rather than just the 'hang out' mentality that seems more endemic with SE Asia. By this I mean, South America has more potential for violence, and being robbed. More hiking and mountains or jungle stuff...and the few that are hanging out are only stationary to study the language at language schools. Not really a Thailand vibe continent whatsoever.

Both are good though, but sounds like you and your girlfriend would be better of flying into Thailand and going from there.
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jenesis



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks for your thoughts.

ttompatz: How would one go about arranging said house near the beach in the Philippines? I've never been but it's one of a few places that have crossed my mind as possible destinations for this trip/stay. Is there something that could be arranged ahead of time or would it be best to just go and arrange from there? What's your advice?

Also, what about a Visa? Is it even possible to spend six months in the Phillipines (or Cambodia etc) if one is not going with a job arranged and thus without a work Visa?
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jenesis



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To add to the above, which areas would you recommend looking at in the Philippines? Somewhere outside of the "tourist traps," though somewhat connected, safe, nearish to a city/town, internet access is important etc. After spending a good part of the afternoon looking around I'm getting very keen, especially on what look like some sweet little (and very affordable) places right on the beach.

J/
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jenesis



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz: I did a little research (stopped being lazy!) and answered the Visa question myself. It seems that one can apply for an extension of stay every two months up to 16 months.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jenesis wrote:
ttompatz: I did a little research (stopped being lazy!) and answered the Visa question myself. It seems that one can apply for an extension of stay every two months up to 16 months.


Book your 1st couple nights before you land. After you are here and rested for a couple days you can search around for something.

Just wander back through here for a few pages (or more) or do a search on Philippines and you will find tons of stuff.
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Robot_Teacher



Joined: 18 Feb 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
If you stay away from the tourist traps you (a couple) can live comfortably for US$200-300 per month in the Philippines.

$500 per month is "quite" comfortable - gets you a 6 month lease on a small (2-3 room) house close to a beach with all your living expenses..

A nice 3 bedroom apartment with maid will run $500 per month in Cebu (if you want to be in the city with all the comforts of home) and a total budget that still runs under $750 per month.

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Does this figure include beer, BBQ, internet, modern services, and healthcare such as if you're taking blood pressure/heart pills? Surely this is just for basic hut, basic local food, and little more? I'm gettin' interested in just farting off the radar to kill some time relaxing in the tropics when finished in Korea. Sounds like a bargain if you can live on that. Giving me ideas as I already have an income of $350 a month doing nothing through a lifetime pension so long as Uncle Sam doesn't implode when China halts the US's line of credit.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robot_Teacher wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
If you stay away from the tourist traps you (a couple) can live comfortably for US$200-300 per month in the Philippines.

$500 per month is "quite" comfortable - gets you a 6 month lease on a small (2-3 room) house close to a beach with all your living expenses..

A nice 3 bedroom apartment with maid will run $500 per month in Cebu (if you want to be in the city with all the comforts of home) and a total budget that still runs under $750 per month.

.

.


Does this figure include beer, BBQ, internet, modern services, and healthcare such as if you're taking blood pressure/heart pills? Surely this is just for basic hut, basic local food, and little more? I'm gettin' interested in just farting off the radar to kill some time relaxing in the tropics when finished in Korea. Sounds like a bargain if you can live on that. Giving me ideas as I already have an income of $350 a month doing nothing through a lifetime pension so long as Uncle Sam doesn't implode when China halts the US's line of credit.


As long as you are not drinking imported beers, yes.
San Mig runs US$6 for 12 liters (or less in the store).
Chickens for a buck/ Pizza for $5.

A trip to the doctor is $2. X-rays for a busted hand, $10. All up, $20 spent. Took my daughter to the hospital and the bill for outpatient treatment was $3.

Home cooking is MUCH cheaper. Our household runs on about $150 -$250 per month (including 2 staff) but we own our own house (just built a 4 bedroom place for about $5000) and 10 acres cost us $3000 to buy.

Broadband wireless is $20 per month (smart-bro / plan 999). There are lots of retired US expats living in the islands in the central region where the storms are few and the living is cheap and comfortable.

Stick to domestic products (food and beverages) and you can do quite nicely out in the province for $350 per month.

It will run up to $750 for the same lifestyle in a major city like Manila or Cebu.

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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jenesis wrote:
Is it even possible to spend six months in the Phillipines (or Cambodia etc) if one is not going with a job arranged and thus without a work Visa?

For Cambodia you enter on a business visa (they require NO proof just a statement of intention to look to start up a biz or any such excuse) and simply apply once there to extend it for six months or A YEAR. That's right, one stop, and a hefty fee (about 250 u.s. dollars) and you'll have a year to play in Cambodia. MANY expats do this there, it's really a rubber stamp procedure. Surf the net and you'll come across countless examples of expats who've done it.

India is also easy to get a one year visa without work or study.

Guam is super easy for Canadians to stay six months without a visa because it's part of the US of A.
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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robot_Teacher wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
If you stay away from the tourist traps you (a couple) can live comfortably for US$200-300 per month in the Philippines.

$500 per month is "quite" comfortable - gets you a 6 month lease on a small (2-3 room) house close to a beach with all your living expenses..

A nice 3 bedroom apartment with maid will run $500 per month in Cebu (if you want to be in the city with all the comforts of home) and a total budget that still runs under $750 per month.

.

.


Does this figure include beer, BBQ, internet, modern services, and healthcare such as if you're taking blood pressure/heart pills? Surely this is just for basic hut, basic local food, and little more? I'm gettin' interested in just farting off the radar to kill some time relaxing in the tropics when finished in Korea. Sounds like a bargain if you can live on that. Giving me ideas as I already have an income of $350 a month doing nothing through a lifetime pension so long as Uncle Sam doesn't implode when China halts the US's line of credit.


As long as you are not drinking imported beers, yes.
San Mig runs US$6 for 12 liters (or less in the store).
Chickens for a buck/ Pizza for $5.

A trip to the doctor is $2. X-rays for a busted hand, $10. All up, $20 spent. Took my daughter to the hospital and the bill for outpatient treatment was $3.

Home cooking is MUCH cheaper. Our household runs on about $150 -$250 per month (including 2 staff) but we own our own house (just built a 4 bedroom place for about $5000) and 10 acres cost us $3000 to buy.

Broadband wireless is $20 per month (smart-bro / plan 999). There are lots of retired US expats living in the islands in the central region where the storms are few and the living is cheap and comfortable.

Stick to domestic products (food and beverages) and you can do quite nicely out in the province for $350 per month.

It will run up to $750 for the same lifestyle in a major city like Manila or Cebu.

.
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VanIslander



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Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
... we own our own house (just built a 4 bedroom place for about $5000) and 10 acres cost us $3000 to buy.

Shocked Shocked Shocked get the *beep* out,... or hook me up!

Can a foreigner get a house built and 10 acres for $8,000 u.s. Shocked WHERE EXACTLY?

(I may have to re-think my plans for the rest of my life)
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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
... we own our own house (just built a 4 bedroom place for about $5000) and 10 acres cost us $3000 to buy.

Shocked Shocked Shocked get the *beep* out,... or hook me up!

Can a foreigner get a house built and 10 acres for $8,000 u.s. Shocked WHERE EXACTLY?

(I may have to re-think my plans for the rest of my life)


IF you don't have a Pinay wife then, as a foreigner, you are limited to a 50 year lease on the land instead of outright ownership.

Agricultural land (larger sizes (2-200 acres) ) is cheap and available anywhere - about $350 per acre)

We live on Bohol (about a 100km drive from Alona beach) and a 2 hour boat ride from Cebu City.

The 5 man construction crew cost me $100 per week (mason, carpenter and 3 helpers). The basic house (walls and roof were $2000 and the other $3000 was for plumbing, wiring and fixtures inside the house. I spent another $1200 for major appliances (stove, deepfreeze, fridge, clothes washer, TV with DVD player and another $200 for satellite TV for a year (including all the hardware).

I couldn't think of a better way to sit out a global economic depression.

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ttompatz



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
... we own our own house (just built a 4 bedroom place for about $5000) and 10 acres cost us $3000 to buy.

Shocked Shocked Shocked get the *beep* out,... or hook me up!

Can a foreigner get a house built and 10 acres for $8,000 u.s. Shocked WHERE EXACTLY?

(I may have to re-think my plans for the rest of my life)


IF you don't have a Pinay wife then, as a foreigner, you are limited to a 50 year lease on the land instead of outright ownership.

Agricultural land (larger sizes (2-200 acres) ) is cheap and available anywhere - about $350 per acre)

We live on Bohol (about a 100km drive from Alona beach) and a 2 hour boat ride from Cebu City.

The 5 man construction crew cost me $100 per week (mason, carpenter and 3 helpers). The basic house (walls and roof were $2000 and the other $3000 was for plumbing, wiring and fixtures inside the house. I spent another $1200 for major appliances (stove, deepfreeze, fridge, clothes washer, TV with DVD player and another $200 for satellite TV for a year (including all the hardware).

I couldn't think of a better way to sit out a global economic depression.

.
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