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tlord1986
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 Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:42 am Post subject: Salary |
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| What is the typical starting salary for an English teacher in a hagwon? I have a BA in English and an online TEFL cert, so I have some background. I have heard very different figures from some people, so I thought I better ask if there is a general amount I should be expecting. |
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berrieh
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:59 am Post subject: Re: Salary |
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| tlord1986 wrote: |
| What is the typical starting salary for an English teacher in a hagwon? I have a BA in English and an online TEFL cert, so I have some background. I have heard very different figures from some people, so I thought I better ask if there is a general amount I should be expecting. |
I just went through the rigamaroll to find a job recently. In my experience, it depends upon:
-Where you want to work (hagwon or public - uni is hard to do from overseas)
-How good your pictures are
-How good your voice sounds/phone interview
-How many hours you want to work/how much work you want to do
-What location you want/how picky you are about age group
But mainly:
-How patient you are at sifting through offers
Recently, my range of offers was from 2.1-2.9 hagwons (I didn't pick the best pay as the hours were ungodly); in a public school, I'd make between 2.0-2.1 (non-rural), depending on what region.
There's plenty of information on Dave's. Do a search and just keep looking at various job offers. I chose a school when I felt fully comfortable with it... but I was very picky and looking for something very specific in terms of the type of school but more open to start date, age range, and location. I had a salary range in mind, but it was pretty broad. Salary is not everything (unless it is too low, and then it becomes quite a big deal!). |
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linky123
Joined: 12 Feb 2009
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It all depends how you apply and present yourself. Unlike the PS jobs, the salary ranges is not set with hagwons. Some will offer you 2 mil while other offer you 4 mil. You should also do your homework and go over every detail of the employment. Some may offer you 4 mil per month but you'd have to put in 10 hours of work including overtime while some institute can offer you 2.5 mil with minimal hours. Watch out for split shifts like 6:30 am to 11:30am and 7pm to 11pm. You will burn out or worse catch some chronic disease.
Apply to any and all positions until you find what you like and do some research s to the location, the hagwon you are applying, age of the students and any other loop holes or traps. |
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tlord1986
Joined: 18 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| So, in essence, the best thing I can do is know what I want? I know I'm not going to be picky about what hours I work (as long as they are not split shifts or really excessive hours). I'm not too picky about location either, but I would prefer a slightly smaller city than Seoul or Busan. (Bucheon and Ansan sound nice from what research I've done.) I am interested in working for a public school or a university, but I will be okay working at a hagwon too. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Most universities hire for March and September. The hiring for September will likely start in May or June (for March it starts in December). Positions at universities are competitive and often require some experience (though I have heard of some hiring people with no experience). |
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eIn07912
Joined: 06 Dec 2008
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| tlord1986 wrote: |
| So, in essence, the best thing I can do is know what I want? I know I'm not going to be picky about what hours I work (as long as they are not split shifts or really excessive hours). I'm not too picky about location either, but I would prefer a slightly smaller city than Seoul or Busan. (Bucheon and Ansan sound nice from what research I've done.) I am interested in working for a public school or a university, but I will be okay working at a hagwon too. |
with no teaching experience? coming from overseas? semesters just started, hiring was done long ago. i'd say ur pretty SOL on that end. better start taking the hagwon offers more seriously as thats gonna be 99.9% of the offers u get this time of year. if a uni or ps is trying to hire to start asap there must be something wrong with that job. ask urself why wouldnt they have someone working now or at least be looking for someone in country?
i get sick of newbies thinking they can just hook up on the jobs some of us have put years into trying to get. hagwons were made for n00bs. most of us have paid our dues there and others should too. plus a ps or uni jobs comes with tons of extra responsibilities for that pay and vacation time. hagwons r great to just come in, punch the clock, speak a little engrish, then go do ur own thing. workout, take taekwondo lessons, date, drink, party, travel, whatever.
who's to say ur gonna like teaching and living here anyways? some people think its gonna be great and then they pull a runner two months in. get a hagwon job dude/lady. try it on for size for a year. if it fits u then uve got every right to be considered for one of the few hundred coveted uni or ps school jobs. if not, then ur just one of the thousands each year that did the hagwon thing and left. thats what hagwons expect. ps and unis want someone they know is gonna be here and know their way around a classroom. thats y they tend to hire people that already have a visa and r in country. |
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twaddle
Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:39 am Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Most universities hire for March and September. The hiring for September will likely start in May or June (for March it starts in December). Positions at universities are competitive and often require some experience (though I have heard of some hiring people with no experience). |
So in August they'll be scrambling as usual...after their "sure things" have peed off. That is when your "no experience" guys jump. Same stuff, another round. |
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berrieh
Joined: 10 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| eIn07912 wrote: |
| i get sick of newbies thinking they can just hook up on the jobs some of us have put years into trying to get. hagwons were made for n00bs. most of us have paid our dues there and others should too. plus a ps or uni jobs comes with tons of extra responsibilities for that pay and vacation time. hagwons r great to just come in, punch the clock, speak a little engrish, then go do ur own thing. workout, take taekwondo lessons, date, drink, party, travel, whatever. |
I'd think a PS job would be easier for a newbie with no teaching experience whatsoever - less teaching hours and a co-teacher with them in every class. That's more support than many of the hagwon jobs I considered. Of course, there are likely some low stress hagwon jobs, but finding them seems like a crapshoot.
I didn't go with PS because of the recruitment times, pay scale, and most of all - having no idea precisely where you would be placed and no way to talk to your supervisor before accepting (if coming out of country), but I don't see why it's a bad option for newbies. PS recruits plenty of newbies each time from what I can tell. |
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DCJames
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Salary |
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| tlord1986 wrote: |
| What is the typical starting salary for an English teacher in a hagwon? I have a BA in English and an online TEFL cert, so I have some background. I have heard very different figures from some people, so I thought I better ask if there is a general amount I should be expecting. |
At least 5 million won. |
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linky123
Joined: 12 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:46 am Post subject: Re: Salary |
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| DCJames wrote: |
| tlord1986 wrote: |
| What is the typical starting salary for an English teacher in a hagwon? I have a BA in English and an online TEFL cert, so I have some background. I have heard very different figures from some people, so I thought I better ask if there is a general amount I should be expecting. |
At least 5 million won. |
lol. What are you smoking? Whatever it is, I'd like to have some. |
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