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A new wrinkle in renewing contracts at my school
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:27 pm    Post subject: A new wrinkle in renewing contracts at my school Reply with quote

Two teachers were pulled into the office last Friday and told that a new policy had just been adopted. Starting with them, each teacher will need to start looking for a new job, even if they want to continue working here because the school will advertize their job, interview any applicants and hire the 'best qualified', no matter who it is. If no one better comes along, they can keep their job. For their own good, they should get their documents in order and start sending out applications, just in case.

In my two years at this school there has been a long, long series of losers hired and fired, some of which I've posted about. Most of the losers were easy to spot and should never have been hired in the first place. I don't know why the policy is being applied now except that the school wants to 'up-grade' the teaching staff.

When a very drunk boss told me about the policy, he said I didn't need to worry because the policy would not be applied to me and one other teacher. That is not what the other teachers were told--they were told it applied to all of us. I know the drunk boss told me the truth because the policy started two days after I finished my contract renewal process.

This has got to be one of the stupidest ideas yet. What person in their right mind would accept a job at a place where they have to compete every year with anyone who comes along?

I wonder if this is something my school dreamed up on their own or if other schools have adopted this policy. Anyone know?
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It`ll be funny if they drop a perfectly functional teacher for a superstar candidate but the starlet never shows up or pulls a runner.
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gazz



Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good idea if it is implemented in a clear and structured way. If not chaos, misunderstandings, and unhappy teachers.......................

I know which one I would place my money on.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will just encourage people to try to find better options. I know that if my employer said that to me I'd take it as a sign I'm not appreciated and no longer welcome.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
It will just encourage people to try to find better options. I know that if my employer said that to me I'd take it as a sign I'm not appreciated and no longer welcome.


I'd find a new job just on principle.
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's a very radical step, BUT it's probably logical if there truly exists a need to overhaul what has been hitherto a very ineffective teaching staff.

once better teachers are in place, the policy can easily be rescinded. (though I acknowledge the problem with hiring a good teacher if they'll have to go thru this BS as well)
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draz wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
It will just encourage people to try to find better options. I know that if my employer said that to me I'd take it as a sign I'm not appreciated and no longer welcome.


I'd find a new job just on principle.


Gawd, this sounds SO Korean!

Ditto. I'd walk right in and tell them I won't be renewing.

This type of thing is the American Indian equivalent of "counting coup". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting_coup Little Korean hagwon boss man wants to up his pride by giving you the finger in the middle of a hiring crunch and see you cowtow to him.

Just walk. Send him home crying to mama.

They'll be putting themselves up against a wall with having to find a new candidate.

Move on, Yata. Smile at 'em the whole way, and if they beg you to stay, tell them you'll only consider it the minute your contract is in front of your face with a big fat raise on it. No promises -- only cold, hard paperwork with a signature on it from THEM first. Not a second sooner.
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berrieh



Joined: 10 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delete... Deleting (mostly) all posts... Mods please delete

Last edited by berrieh on Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:49 pm; edited 1 time in total
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crosbystillsstash



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes this boss sounds like an idiot. If he hired/fired morons that's his problem. And then he says"Don't worry, it won't apply to you." Oh really...this is Korea, where people say they never said something on a daily basis.

The problem is most bosses here wouldn't know a good teacher if they had one, and if they did they'd look for someone cheaper because in the end it's all about money.

If he wants to find new teachers in this market, good luck to him. I'd be looking for a better job.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being asked to re-apply for one's own job is a standard practice used in corporate restructuring. I'm almost sure it originated in the USA.

It's a good deal for the company. They get to let go 'dead wood', and increase productivity and reduce wage demands (the remaining staff are scared to death that they'll lose their jobs in the future).

Sounds like someone has taken Corporate Re-Structuring 101 - and if they have, you can expect more unpleasant surprises in the future.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draz wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
It will just encourage people to try to find better options. I know that if my employer said that to me I'd take it as a sign I'm not appreciated and no longer welcome.


I'd find a new job just on principle.


So would I.
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldfatfarang wrote:
Being asked to re-apply for one's own job is a standard practice used in corporate restructuring. I'm almost sure it originated in the USA.

It's a good deal for the company. They get to let go 'dead wood', and increase productivity and reduce wage demands (the remaining staff are scared to death that they'll lose their jobs in the future).

Sounds like someone has taken Corporate Re-Structuring 101 - and if they have, you can expect more unpleasant surprises in the future.


Well this is Korea and jobs are always plentiful in ESL.
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Synn057



Joined: 05 Jan 2009
Location: Here and There..... Metaphysically of course

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldfatfarang wrote:
Being asked to re-apply for one's own job is a standard practice used in corporate restructuring. I'm almost sure it originated in the USA.

It's a good deal for the company. They get to let go 'dead wood', and increase productivity and reduce wage demands (the remaining staff are scared to death that they'll lose their jobs in the future).

Sounds like someone has taken Corporate Re-Structuring 101 - and if they have, you can expect more unpleasant surprises in the future.


Not exactly. The concept of having people "reapply" for their own job is used in two circumstances:
-layoffs (I assume this is what you meant by restructuring)
-performance evaluations

Using this as a means to install fear is not a winning proposition for any company. Companies like to retain as much control over when their staff leaves. Even if they suck. A corporation who does such a trick knows they are going to have staff on their hands who can literally be gone the next day (no two week notice... nada).

The program as described by the OP sounds like a clever way of getting teachers to basically violate their own "contract". Doesn't seem like firing people is exactly the easiest proposition, although I could be wrong about this.

OP should tell whether or not contacting another school is against their contract. Also should mention how long these other teachers have been employed.

Finally, since they came to you on this, they need to realize that they aren't particularly good at their HR function. Start looking for a new job and approach them with the concept of making you in charge of hiring.

__Synn
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toonchoon



Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe they don't want teachers sticking around for more then a year. a more informed teacher is more likely to have more confidence, be more informed about Korea and the systems here, and ask questions the admin don't want to answer.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given the school's batting average is under 50% in finding people who shouldn't be locked up, and that the school has done nothing to figure out how to sort the wheat from the chaff, I'm predicting they will chase out adequate teachers and replace half of them with people who shouldn't have left their parents' basement.

A year from now, the general quality of the staff won't be any better than it is now.

I'm predicting a comedy of errors.
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