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Mentally Disabled Students in the Classroom
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WendyRose



Joined: 10 Dec 2008
Location: hanam-si, seoul

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:07 pm    Post subject: Mentally Disabled Students in the Classroom Reply with quote

Last semester whenever there were students with disability in class they would often have an accompanying teacher to help them. While they should really have their own class, at least someone was there to help.

This semester is quite different. In almost every class I have a student who has a mental disability. I've worked with plenty of young people with varying degrees of disability in my day and I'm not at all uncomfortable with it.

However - it's very difficult to teach a class when I have a student who comes to the front of the classroom to bounce a ball around, write on the board while I'm talking, dig in my purse for change, bang their head on their desk or make a cup of (unheated) tea.

Why don't Korean's have a special class for disabled students? It would be better for the teachers, better for the students engaged in English class and definitely better for the disabled students who need to learn in a drastically different way.

Anyone else have this problem?
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Cerriowen



Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Location: Pocheon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got one kid who yells... screams... at the top of his lungs in class. The other kids are surprised, and laugh... so he screams again. The co-teacher stood over him, patting him and giving him attention, (which helped some) but he still shreaked and threw things to get my attention.

I think it's an experiment this year.
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Mentally Disabled Students in the Classroom Reply with quote

WendyRose wrote:
Anyone else have this problem?

All you PS people who crap all over Hakwons need to read all these cautionary tales from the new PS teachers...
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There should still be a special needs teacher at your school; talk to him / her. If there isn't, talk to the homeroom teachers of any students who are posing really major disruptions and see if there's a way to send the student(s) somewhere else for your lesson.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Mentally Disabled Students in the Classroom Reply with quote

Straphanger wrote:
WendyRose wrote:
Anyone else have this problem?

All you PS people who crap all over Hakwons need to read all these cautionary tales from the new PS teachers...


I'd rather have one retarded kid acting like a retard than 10 perfectly able-minded kids acting like retards in my class.
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WendyRose



Joined: 10 Dec 2008
Location: hanam-si, seoul

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Mentally Disabled Students in the Classroom Reply with quote

Straphanger wrote:
WendyRose wrote:
Anyone else have this problem?

All you PS people who crap all over Hakwons need to read all these cautionary tales from the new PS teachers...


I wouldn't call it a cautionary tale or anything -- it's just a new issue that has made things a little difficult.

I'm sure PS and Hagwons have their ups and downs and I don't think that there is a battle between the two types of teachers. We all teach ESL. All kids can be bratty. We all have different issues to deal with.
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bourquetheman



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Each school is different I guess because I taught at a public high school for 2 years and during the first week of each new school year the mentally disabled kids would come. It was explained that it let them feel as part of a regular class, but after the first week they'd all go back to their special classes with their special ed. teacher.
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Mentally Disabled Students in the Classroom Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
I'd rather have one retarded kid acting like a retard than 10 perfectly able-minded kids acting like retards in my class.

Yeah, but from reading this board, I can deduce that you actually have 10 perfectly able-minded kids acting like retards out of the 30-50 that you teach, who you only see once a week. Additionally, you have a co-teacher who does a really good job of getting in your way and a VP who does nothing but get in your face about stupid crap. Ace-kicker, your equipment doesn't work, and when it does, you didn't have enough prep-time to use it effectively anyway so your classes are nothing but heads-up-seven-up and hangman until you're soju drunk outside of the GS25 in Kangnam, pickling your liver at the end of every day.

Sorry man, I'm not gonna trade ya. My hakwon job kicks ass, my boss is hardcore and actually gives a shit, and my co-teachers can actually find their asses with both hands and a flashlight - but they do so during their own time with the kids.
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had one who walks funny and has slurred speech. He's wasn't disruptive but definitely shouldnt be in a normal elementary school.
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Snowflake



Joined: 12 Dec 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi WendyRose - Sorry to hear you're having problems. When I worked at your school there was a special needs teacher who would come into the classroom while I was teaching and sit with the students who had learning difficulties - has she left?
(If you go down to the far end of the 2nd floor corridor that's where the special needs classroom was).
Hope it gets better!
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WendyRose



Joined: 10 Dec 2008
Location: hanam-si, seoul

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snowflake wrote:
Hi WendyRose - Sorry to hear you're having problems. When I worked at your school there was a special needs teacher who would come into the classroom while I was teaching and sit with the students who had learning difficulties - has she left?
(If you go down to the far end of the 2nd floor corridor that's where the special needs classroom was).
Hope it gets better!


Oh, hello! ^^*

Yeah - I see her around sometimes but she is never in the classroom anymore. When I asked the new co-teacher (who is wonderful, by the way) about it she said that the special needs teacher might start to come, but she hasn't so far. We'll see what happens.

Chunhyeon is a lovely school and I really don't have any complaints. I just wondered how everyone else dealt with this situation!
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Mentally Disabled Students in the Classroom Reply with quote

Straphanger wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
I'd rather have one retarded kid acting like a retard than 10 perfectly able-minded kids acting like retards in my class.

Yeah, but from reading this board, I can deduce that you actually have 10 perfectly able-minded kids acting like retards out of the 30-50 that you teach, who you only see once a week. Additionally, you have a co-teacher who does a really good job of getting in your way and a VP who does nothing but get in your face about stupid crap. Ace-kicker, your equipment doesn't work, and when it does, you didn't have enough prep-time to use it effectively anyway so your classes are nothing but heads-up-seven-up and hangman until you're soju drunk outside of the GS25 in Kangnam, pickling your liver at the end of every day.

Sorry man, I'm not gonna trade ya. My hakwon job kicks ass, my boss is hardcore and actually gives a shit, and my co-teachers can actually find their asses with both hands and a flashlight - but they do so during their own time with the kids.


Fair enough - I don't want to trade either.

I was showing a friend of mine who worked in our district at Babo Technical High School down the road around my school. Passing by one room I said 'and that's our new retard room'. He responded 'Oh yeah, we've got those at my school, except at my school we call them classrooms'.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the first day at my second school, a first year boy crawled under his groups table, dropped trow, and pissed on the floor. He's special. Nice kid though.
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ekul



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a child that's in a motorised wheelchair who can only move his head and fingers, he can't speak. The special needs teacher just wheels him in, puts him in park and leaves. I found it hard to deal with him, not because he was badly behaved, how could he be, but just because I had no way to communicate with him and the class at the same time. I just felt sorry for him having to sit there for 45 minutes every week. I could see in his eyes he was as smart as any other kid in the class, he should have been in a specialised school where he could actually flourish.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a deaf kid before. Otherwise, he seemed normal. He behaved better than most of the other kids in the class. Super nice.
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