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WTB big-ish guitar amplifier, 50 watts + , ideally 100W

 
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Jimskins



Joined: 07 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:09 am    Post subject: WTB big-ish guitar amplifier, 50 watts + , ideally 100W Reply with quote

I'm looking for a decent used guitar amplifier with 100 W + of power, though may consider below this. Also ideally it will have two inputs so I can put two instruments through it at the same time.
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kayosum



Joined: 17 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Crate V50. All tube(Groove Tubes). it has built in and programmable effects. Two channels.
I bought it here for 1,5oo,ooo won will let her go for 900,000. It's a great amp, plenty of power and punch. I replaced the tubes two years ago, but it hasn't been used much since. So the tubes should have at least another 5 months in them. I need to sell it( Crying or Very sad ) to finance my next purchase, ahh the coveted Marshall 2550. Wink
If interested give me a call010-7164-1031.
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ernie



Joined: 05 Aug 2006
Location: asdfghjk

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you looking for 50-100 watts of tube or solid state power?

1 watt of tube power sounds about as loud as 3 watts of solid state power, so 30 tube watts = about 100 solid state watts. a 50 - 100 watt solid state amp is plenty loud for most applications, and 50 - 100 watts of tube power (think marshall stack) can get insanely loud.

the hughes and kettner blue series are nice tube-y sounding solid state combo amps, but nothing sounds like real tubes. that crate v50 will definitely be loud enough and has decent reviews.

i should mention that 99% of rehearsal places and clubs in korea will have their own house equipment. and also that playing 2 instruments at the same time through the same amp will sound like crap.
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kayosum



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, 100w of tube is no joke! The 50w on mine is way much, At home I run it at about 2, At a gig about 4-5. The only good solid states these days are the ones with a tube preamp. And still they can sound lifeless,too.
Although, if one is using the amp clean, 100watts(tube) is good, due to alot of overhead, before it begins to breakup/distort.
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ernie wrote:
are you looking for 50-100 watts of tube or solid state power?

1 watt of tube power sounds about as loud as 3 watts of solid state power, so 30 tube watts = about 100 solid state watts. a 50 - 100 watt solid state amp is plenty loud for most applications, and 50 - 100 watts of tube power (think marshall stack) can get insanely loud.


I'm not so sure about this. My 100 watt Peavey solid state was about 5000 times as loud as my 50 watt Pignose tube amp, and sounded 5000 times as crappy, unless I wanted to play hair metal.

I sold them both and kept the amp I loved the most which promptly blew an irreplaceable transformer (seriously, I looked, the thing had been modded, it was a weird, solid state preamp, tube poweramp tweed monstrosity from the late seventies that had a really unique sound).
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Jimskins



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to clear things up a bit...

I understand the difference between tube and solid-state amps, I have a gorgeous 1973 Fender Super Reverb tube amp back in the UK. Its the loudest amp I've ever heard and is only 45w. The amp I'm looking to buy is not really for me but my students.

As I think I've mentioned in other posts I work at a girl's high school where I'm creating my very own "school of rock" (^^) with the 1st and 2nd grades. We have a couple of microcubes for the bass and guitar and have also got an electronic drumkit (one of the Yamaha DD?s). I have bought all this equipment (including 4 guitars) myself. What we don't have is something to put vocals through.

We don't have the space for a PA system (all the equipment is scattered around my English classroom) and the amp will eventually come with me when i leave the school in another 18 months or so (a PA system is just too much extra luggage). I just don't want to buy ANOTHER practice amp but would rather spend a fair whack on a half- decent amp (me and the missus are forming a band when we move to Seoul) that will last me.

I know it sounds stupid but the quality of the sound does not have to be amazing, they are going to be playing at fairly quiet levels, its just so they can hear themselves singing, but I know with vocals its better to have a bit more wattage to get a loud and clear enough sound, so I'd like at least 100W. The reason i want two inputs is so I can put another guitar through it if the band playing has two guitarists, rather than buying another amp. I know putting two instruments through one amp is not sensible for gigging, but they are not going to be, just practising. I've seen a 150W amp with a couple of inputs downtown in Daegu for around 400,000. Something similar to that would be good.

Oh, just to add, high school girls virtually live at high school, so practice rooms elsewhere are out of the question, hence yours truly buying all of this equipment...
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ernie



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know you said you don't want a PA, but i think that's your best option in this situation, especially since you want to amplify multiple guitars and vocals. i'd run the guitar signal(s) through the PA and pan them hard left and hard right. use stompboxes for distortion. put the vocal signal dead center.
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