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Ya-ta Boy
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 Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:10 am Post subject: Calling US ex-military people... |
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One of my students....
a) 31 years old
b) female
c) intelligence officer (captain)
d) 7 years experience
e) excellent English...
is seriously thinking about resigning from the Korean army and joining the US army.
She asked me to ask you...
What is her next step? How does she go about doing this?
I have no clue whatsoever. Any guidance would be welcome.
Thanks. |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:23 am Post subject: |
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US ARMY RECRUITER
YONGSAN (Covers all of Korea) 738-6916 |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Foreign nationals cannot join the US Armed Forces unless they have been admitted to the United States as a Resident Alien. The Armed Forces cannot sponsor anyone into the country as a Resident Alien. Also, only US citizens may be Warrant Officers, Commissioned Officers, or Enlisted E-9.
If she wishes to join the US military, she has to immigrate first. |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!
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| Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:51 am Post subject: Re: Calling US ex-military people... |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
One of my students....
a) 31 years old
b) female
c) intelligence officer (captain)
d) 7 years experience
e) excellent English...
is seriously thinking about resigning from the Korean army and joining the US army.
She asked me to ask you...
What is her next step? How does she go about doing this?
I have no clue whatsoever. Any guidance would be welcome.
Thanks. |
If the above is true...the recruiter would be able to have immigration expidate her application for a resident alien card.
As a previous poster wrote...she/he will not be an Officer. Only enlisted. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:12 am Post subject: Re: Calling US ex-military people... |
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| hellofaniceguy wrote: |
If the above is true...the recruiter would be able to have immigration expidate her application for a resident alien card.
As a previous poster wrote...she/he will not be an Officer. Only enlisted. |
Wrong. The US Armed Forces CANNOT sponsor anyone into the country as an immigrant alien. |
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cibomatto
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Joined: 30 Aug 2006
Location: NY
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| Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Enlistment into any branch of the US Military, by citizens of countries other than the United States is limited to those foreign nationals who are legally residing in the United States and possess an Immigration and Naturalization Service Alien Registration Card (INS Form I-151/551 - commonly known as a "Green Card"). Applicants must be between 17 and 35; meet the mental, moral, and physical standards for enlistment; and must speak, read and write English fluently.
The US Military branches cannot assist foreign nationals in obtaining admittance into the United States. Questions concerning immigration to the United States should be asked of the US Embassy. Only after immigration procedures are completed and an applicant is legally residing in the United States may an application for enlistment be accepted.
The US Government agency which is responsible for immigration and naturalization is the US Immigration and Naturalization Service on:
http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/ |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys.
It's this other stuff about residence that she wants to know about.
Is this right:
a. She needs to immigrate first
b. Then join as an enlisted person
(As an immigrant, she would not need a Green Card, right?)
There is something about getting citizenship faster by joining the military, isn't there? |
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rkc76sf
Joined: 02 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Like the first poster said, have her call the recruiter in Yongsan. He's Korean and speaks fluent english and korean. The offpost number (from a cell) is 0505-738-6916 |
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MA_TESOL
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| Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| I think we have agreements with some countries. know that Filipino men can join the US Navy without being a resident |
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wylies99
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| Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Some of you-You'd be surprised what a "Command Officer" can do, in this type of situation, depending on her QUALIFICATIONS. That's part of the process. Sorry if you've never been part of this. |
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wylies99
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| Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| MA_TESOL wrote: |
| I think we have agreements with some countries. know that Filipino men can join the US Navy without being a resident |
There are some agreements like this. Some are public and others are kept TOP SECRET. |
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wylies99
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| Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Thanks guys.
It's this other stuff about residence that she wants to know about.
Is this right:
a. She needs to immigrate first
b. Then join as an enlisted person
(As an immigrant, she would not need a Green Card, right?)
There is something about getting citizenship faster by joining the military, isn't there? |
Yes, and that also involves knowing English and being able to pass the citizenship test. |
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hellofaniceguy
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| Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: Calling US ex-military people... |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| hellofaniceguy wrote: |
If the above is true...the recruiter would be able to have immigration expidate her application for a resident alien card.
As a previous poster wrote...she/he will not be an Officer. Only enlisted. |
Wrong. The US Armed Forces CANNOT sponsor anyone into the country as an immigrant alien. |
I never wrote anything about the military sponsoring.....re-read my posting!
If the applicant files for a visa and it's granted, they could then apply for a resident card, he/she can then join the military.
Immigration DOES issue visas to some people without needing a sponsor.
If her military record is good and she is a Captain, immigration would most likely grant her a visa and then she could join.
Of course the military does not sponsor anyone. |
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Kimchi Cha Cha
Joined: 15 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| MA_TESOL wrote: |
| I think we have agreements with some countries. know that Filipino men can join the US Navy without being a resident |
That was the situation with my friend's father. His father joined the Navy from the Philippines 30/40-odd years ago and as a result of his service eventually became a US citizen along with his wife and children. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:50 am Post subject: Re: Calling US ex-military people... |
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| hellofaniceguy wrote: |
| CentralCali wrote: |
| hellofaniceguy wrote: |
If the above is true...the recruiter would be able to have immigration expidate her application for a resident alien card.
As a previous poster wrote...she/he will not be an Officer. Only enlisted. |
Wrong. The US Armed Forces CANNOT sponsor anyone into the country as an immigrant alien. |
I never wrote anything about the military sponsoring.....re-read my posting!
If the applicant files for a visa and it's granted, they could then apply for a resident card, he/she can then join the military.
Immigration DOES issue visas to some people without needing a sponsor.
If her military record is good and she is a Captain, immigration would most likely grant her a visa and then she could join.
Of course the military does not sponsor anyone. |
I read your previous posting and I read the one you just posted. You're still talking out of your hat.
- Once the individual is approved for immigration, they still cannot enlist in the US Armed Forces. They have to FIRST enter the US as an immigrant alien and THEN apply for enlistment.
- Immigrant visas are the ONLY kind of visas foreign nationals can be on if they wish to enlist in the US Armed Forces. Either one's an immigrant or one's not. If one's not an immigrant and not a US citizen, then one's not enlisting into the US Armed Forces. One has to enter the country prior to receiving an Immigrant Alien ID ("Green Card").
- Where are you pulling your "most likely" assertion from? Once again, she must immigrate first and then enlist. If she wishes to enter as a Warrant or Commissioned Officer, then she must wait until she immigrates and becomes naturalized.
- On what legal basis would the military get involved in "expediting" an alien's application for immigration, said alien who is not only not in the US but has not applied for enlistment for the simple reason that she is not eligible until after she immigrates?
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