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bacasper
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 Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:55 pm Post subject: FBI Intimidates Alex Jones Show |
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Wednesday, March 11
FBI intimidates Alex Jones Show
Houston, TX
Alex Jones on this syndicated radio show today revealed that the FBI is �throwing fishing lines through the windows of his office�. The FBI called Mr. Jones�s studio during yesterdays broadcast with intimidating interest but was refusing to state the reason for their investigation. With the release of Alex Jones�s masterpiece documentary �The Obama Deception� imminent, President Obama and his team have good reason to be nervous. The documentary will present Barack H. Obama�s statements and links his words to his actions as then US Senator and now President. Main stream media reports and interviews deepen the plot, casting reasonable doubt on President Obama�s sincerity and authenticity.
The FBI called Alex Jones�s office on Tuesday, 10th March while he was on air and unavailable to take the call himself. Studio staff who answered the phone was asked by the FBI if this was indeed Alex Jones�s - the Broadcaster�s office, and where the office was located. The agent also demanded to know where exactly their CDN Servers (CDN - Content Distribution Network) are located. When Alex called the FBI back to clarify the nature of their inquiry, the FBI agent refused to say why the FBI had such a sudden and specific interest in Mr. Jones�s office and server locations.
Alex states that these �snoopy questions� are being asked to intimidate his staff and himself, and that the FBI�s interest is to �98% related� to the imminent release of his documentary �The Obama Deception�. Alex referred the FBI to legal counsel and asked for a subpoena before willing to give any information the FBI.
As a result of this incident, Alex will release his wake-up movie one week before the scheduled release date and as early as tomorrow. The movie can be purchased on DVD from Prisonplanet.com, downloaded in high quality on Prisonplanet.tv or watched for free in lower quality on Google or YouTube. Mr. Jones�s fear that the release of his movie may be blocked by the White House is warranted.
President Obama has crippled Free Speech before. During his presidential campaign he colluded with Missouri State officials and police and threatened to arrest anyone who would criticise then Presidential Candidate Obama. Matt Blunt, Gov. MO , later issued a statement to the Obama campaign charging them with �abusive use of Missouri law enforcement.� |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| I wonder whether Glenn Beck is behind this... |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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To a paranoid, even a smile can be intimidating.
I'd say there is a 98% possibility Alex made up the phone call for publicity. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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To a paranoid, even a smile can be intimidating.
I'd say there is a 98% possibility Alex made up the phone call for publicity. |
Yeah, right, they were calling to smile at him.
Since you have not debunked any of A. Jones' other claims, it is a good sign this is true as well.
If all his assertions are bunk as you seem to feel, then why are the FBI bothering with him at all? |
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Gimpokid
Joined: 09 Nov 2008
Location: Best Gimpo
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| Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:37 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe because he's trying to incite mass hysteria to sell some crappy DVDs. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:50 am Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
To a paranoid, even a smile can be intimidating.
I'd say there is a 98% possibility Alex made up the phone call for publicity. |
Yeah, right, they were calling to smile at him.
Since you have not debunked any of A. Jones' other claims, it is a good sign this is true as well.
If all his assertions are bunk as you seem to feel, then why are the FBI bothering with him at all? |
I see you misunderstood my reference to 'delusions of reference'. 
Here, I'll help you:
Definition:
Delusions of reference refers to the strongly held belief that random events, objects, behaviors of others, etc. have a particular and unusual significance to oneself.
When less firmly held or organized, these beliefs are called ideas of reference.
Examples: A person might believe that secret messages about him are broadcast in a weekly television show, to the point where he would record the programs and watch them again and again.
http://bipolar.about.com/od/glossaryd/g/gl_delusofrefer.htm
What makes you think it was the FBI on the phone (if indeed there was even a phone call at all)? There's a very good chance it was a non-delusional teenager yanking Alex's chain.
So:
a) 98% certainty there was no phone call at all
b) 2% certainty it was a teenager playing with Alex |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| As a result of this incident, Alex will release his wake-up movie one week before the scheduled release date and as early as tomorrow. The movie can be purchased on DVD from Prisonplanet.com, downloaded in high quality on Prisonplanet.tv or watched for free in lower quality on Google or YouTube. Mr. Jones�s fear that the release of his movie may be blocked by the White House is warranted. |
Uh hu. This is little more than viral marketing for the conspiracy crowd.
Hey Bcasper, I'll be you dave's accounts that Alex Jones's little movie isn't in any way touched by the state. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey Bcasper, I'll be you dave's accounts that Alex Jones's little movie isn't in any way touched by the state. |
I know that law-enforcement agencies keep track of non-mainstream political groupings, and maybe that's what was happening here. I doubt, however, that the sentiment at the FBI was "Oh my GOD, we gotta stop this video from being released or Obama's gonna be turfed from power!!" More like they were just doing a routine check-up, like they do for countless other fringe organizations. |
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mack the knife
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: standing right behind you...
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| Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| At least he's gone off the "black helicopters" trip. |
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NAVFC
Joined: 10 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:37 am Post subject: Re: FBI Intimidates Alex Jones Show |
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| bacasper wrote: |
Wednesday, March 11
FBI intimidates Alex Jones Show
Houston, TX
Alex Jones on this syndicated radio show today revealed that the FBI is �throwing fishing lines through the windows of his office�. The FBI called Mr. Jones�s studio during yesterdays broadcast with intimidating interest but was refusing to state the reason for their investigation. With the release of Alex Jones�s masterpiece documentary �The Obama Deception� imminent, President Obama and his team have good reason to be nervous. The documentary will present Barack H. Obama�s statements and links his words to his actions as then US Senator and now President. Main stream media reports and interviews deepen the plot, casting reasonable doubt on President Obama�s sincerity and authenticity.
The FBI called Alex Jones�s office on Tuesday, 10th March while he was on air and unavailable to take the call himself. Studio staff who answered the phone was asked by the FBI if this was indeed Alex Jones�s - the Broadcaster�s office, and where the office was located. The agent also demanded to know where exactly their CDN Servers (CDN - Content Distribution Network) are located. When Alex called the FBI back to clarify the nature of their inquiry, the FBI agent refused to say why the FBI had such a sudden and specific interest in Mr. Jones�s office and server locations.
Alex states that these �snoopy questions� are being asked to intimidate his staff and himself, and that the FBI�s interest is to �98% related� to the imminent release of his documentary �The Obama Deception�. Alex referred the FBI to legal counsel and asked for a subpoena before willing to give any information the FBI.
As a result of this incident, Alex will release his wake-up movie one week before the scheduled release date and as early as tomorrow. The movie can be purchased on DVD from Prisonplanet.com, downloaded in high quality on Prisonplanet.tv or watched for free in lower quality on Google or YouTube. Mr. Jones�s fear that the release of his movie may be blocked by the White House is warranted.
President Obama has crippled Free Speech before. During his presidential campaign he colluded with Missouri State officials and police and threatened to arrest anyone who would criticise then Presidential Candidate Obama. Matt Blunt, Gov. MO , later issued a statement to the Obama campaign charging them with �abusive use of Missouri law enforcement.� |
So bacasper... you subscribe to alex jones views?
I agree with someone who epleid to you.. Jones is likely making all of this up..
Unless you really believe that the goverment is preparing FEMA Camps, that 9-11 was a inside job, that Bin Laden isnt real, that there is a new world order..
If you subscribe to those, I have to question your common sense and or intellect which would further explain some of the other things you have said here..
But if you dont agree with Mr Jones, based on your post i thnk jones is lying. As ifwere simply supposed to take his word for it the FBI harassed him???
Gee.. a story about being harassed by the FBI that causes him to move up the release date of anothr one of his wacko-mentaries?
Can anyone say publicity stunt? |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:03 am Post subject: Re: FBI Intimidates Alex Jones Show |
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| NAVFC wrote: |
So bacasper... you subscribe to alex jones views?
I agree with someone who epleid to you.. Jones is likely making all of this up..
Unless you really believe that the goverment is preparing FEMA Camps, that 9-11 was a inside job, that Bin Laden isnt real, that there is a new world order..
If you subscribe to those, I have to question your common sense and or intellect which would further explain some of the other things you have said here..
But if you dont agree with Mr Jones, based on your post i thnk jones is lying. As ifwere simply supposed to take his word for it the FBI harassed him???
Gee.. a story about being harassed by the FBI that causes him to move up the release date of anothr one of his wacko-mentaries?
Can anyone say publicity stunt? |
I believe it is within the realm of possibilities that it was a publicity stunt as well as that it may have occurred as reported. After all, such intimidation has been FBI MO in the past.
Regarding your little laundry list:
I have heard of the FEMA camps but have not seen evidence convincing me they exist.
If you believe that the mightiest military defenses in the history of mankind were defeated by a guy living in a cave on the other side of the world (on dialysis no less!), with absolutely no help from the inside, then I'd have to question your intellect.
Bin Laden is not only real but he is a creature of the CIA. I think you know he received his terrorist training at the behest of US intelligence to the tune of six billion US dollars funneled to organizations opposing the Russians in Afghanistan.
I am not even sure what the "new world order" is. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:51 am Post subject: |
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| Bin Laden is not only real but he is a creature of the CIA. |
IS or WAS?
Twenty years ago, you were influenced far more by your parents and school than you are now (go with me here, I don't know your exact age), but does that mean you haven't evolved into your own person? |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:27 am Post subject: Re: FBI Intimidates Alex Jones Show |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| I have heard of the FEMA camps but have not seen evidence convincing me they exist. |
Then again...
Preparing for Civil Unrest in America
Legislation to Establish Internment Camps on US Military Bases
by Michel Chossudovsky
Global Research, March 18, 2009
The Economic and Social Crisis
The financial meltdown has unleashed a latent and emergent social crisis across the United States.
What is at stake is the fraudulent confiscation of lifelong savings and pension funds, the appropriation of tax revenues to finance the trillion dollar "bank bailouts", which ultimately serve to line the pockets of the richest people in America.
This economic crisis is in large part the result of financial manipulation and outright fraud to the detriment of entire populations, leading to a renewed wave of corporate bankruptcies, mass unemployment and poverty.
The criminalization of the global financial system, characterized by a "Shadow Banking" network has resulted in the centralization of bank power and an unprecedented concentration of private wealth.
Obama's "economic stimulus" package and budget proposals contribute to a further process of concentration and centralization of bank power, the cumulative effects of which will eventually resul in large scale corporate, bankruptcies, a new wave of foreclosures not to mention fiscal collapse and the downfall of State social programs. (For further details see Michel Chossudovsky, America's Fiscal Collapse, Global Research, March 2, 2009).
The cumulative decline of real economic activity backlashes on employment and wages, which in turn leads to a collapse in purchaisng power. The proposed "solution" under the Obama administration contributes to exacerbating rather than alleviating social inequalities and the process of wealth concentration.
The Protest Movement
When people across America, whose lives have been shattered and destroyed, come to realize the true face of the global "free market" system, the legitimacy of Wall Street, the Federal Reserve and the US administration will be challenged.
A latent protest movement directed against the seat of economic and political power is unfolding.
How this process will occur is hard to predict. All sectors of American society are potentially affected: wage earners, small, medium and even large businesses, farmers, professionals, federal, State and municipal employees, students, teachers, health workers, and unemployed. Protests will initially emerge from these various sectors. There is, however, at this stage, no organized national resistance movement directed against the administration's economic and financial agenda.
Obama's populist rhetoric conceals the true nature of macro-economic policy. Acting on behalf of Wall Street, the administration's economic package, which includes close to a trillion dollar "aid" package for the financial services industry, coupled with massive austerity measures, contributes to precipitating America into a bottomless crisis.
"Orwellian Solution" to the Great Depression: Curbing Civil Unrest
At this particular juncture, there is no economic recovery program in sight. The Washington-Wall Street consensus prevails. There are no policies, no alternatives formulated from within the political and economic system. .
What is the way out? How will the US government face an impending social catastrophe?
The solution is to curb social unrest. The chosen avenue, inherited from the outgoing Bush administration is the reinforcement of the Homeland Security apparatus and the militarization of civilian State institutions.
The outgoing administration has laid the groundwork. Various pieces of "anti-terrorist" legislation (including the Patriot Acts) and presidential directives have been put in place since 2001, largely using the pretext of the "Global War on Terrorism."
Homeland Security's Internment Camps
Directly related to the issue of curbing social unrest, cohesive system of detention camps is also envisaged, under the jurisdiction of the Department of Homeland Security and the Pentagon.
A bill entitled the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act (HR 645) was introduced in the US Congress in January. It calls for the establishment of six national emergency centers in major regions in the US to be located on existing military installations. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645
The stated purpose of the "national emergency centers" is to provide "temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster." In actuality, what we are dealing with are FEMA internment camps. HR 645 states that the camps can be used to "meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security."
There has been virtually no press coverage of HR 645.
These "civilian facilities" on US military bases are to be established in cooperation with the US Military. Modeled on Guantanamo, what we are dealing with is the militarization of FEMA internment facilities.
Once a person is arrested and interned in a FEMA camp located on a military base, that person would in all likelihood, under a national emergency, fall under the de facto jurisdiction of the Military: civilian justice and law enforcement including habeas corpus would no longer apply.
HR 645 bears a direct relationship to the economic crisis and the likelihood of mass protests across America. It constitutes a further move to militarize civilian law enforcement, repealing the Posse Comitatus Act.
In the words of Rep. Ron Paul:
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| "...the fusion centers, militarized police, surveillance cameras and a domestic military command is not enough... Even though we know that detention facilities are already in place, they now want to legalize the construction of FEMA camps on military installations using the ever popular excuse that the facilities are for the purposes of a national emergency. With the phony debt-based economy getting worse and worse by the day, the possibility of civil unrest is becoming a greater threat to the establishment. One need only look at Iceland, Greece and other nations for what might happen in the United States next." (Daily Paul, September 2008, emphasis added) |
The proposed internment camps should be seen in relation to the broader process of militarization of civilian institutions. The construction of internment camps predates the introduction of HR 645 (Establishment of Emergency Centers) in January 2009. There are, according to various (unconfirmed) reports, some 800 FEMA prison camps in different regions of the U.S. Moreover, since the 1980s, the US military has developed "tactics, techniques and procedures" to suppress civilian dissent, to be used in the eventuality of mass protests (United States Army Field Manual 19-15 under Operation Garden Plot, entitled "Civil Disturbances" was issued in 1985)
In early 2006, tax revenues were allocated to building modern internment camp facilities. In January 2006, Kellogg Brown and Roots, which at the time was a subsidiary of Halliburton, received a $385 million contract from the Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE):
"The contract, which is effective immediately [January 2006], provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations (DRO) Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs...
The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other U.S. Government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster. (KBR, 24 January 2006, emphasis added)
The stated objectives of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) are to:
"protect national security and uphold public safety by targeting criminal networks and terrorist organizations that seek to exploit vulnerabilities in our immigration system, in our financial networks, along our border, at federal facilities and elsewhere in order to do harm to the United States. The end result is a safer, more secure America" (ICE homepage)
The US media is mum on the issue of the internment camps on US soil. While casually acknowledging the multimillion dollar contract granted to Halliburton's subsidiary, the news reports largely focused their attention on possible "cost overruns" (similar to those which occurred with KBR in Iraq).
What is the political intent and purpose of these camps? The potential use of these internment facilities to detain American citizens under a martial law situation are not an object of media debate or discussion.
more at link |
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