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Sam Harris on the Reality of Islam
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you defensive or just feeling cranky?


Neither. It just seemed to me that you might be setting up a strawman, by implying that this...

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it's all the Swedes' fault.


...is a commonly expressed sentiment around here.

But I guess you were talking about some hitherto unheard-from apologist who might come along in the future and make that argument. Okay then.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:

But I guess you were talking about some hitherto unheard-from apologist who might come along in the future and make that argument. Okay then.


Well, apologia can come in different forms. We'll just have to wait and see, but you may be right that in this case the reported evidence is too damning to be messed with head-on.
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Pluto



Joined: 19 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just Googled Malm� Sweden and found these 3 vids. It isn't pretty over there.
video 1
Video 2
Video 3

Something is really wrong with the police in Malmo, I'm supposing it's because they are not "understanding" enough.
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Pluto



Joined: 19 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RPGs being openly fired in the streets? The elderly being robbed, beat and shot execution style? This is Sweden and I find all of this very hard to believe. Who are these people that are "meticulously spreading hatred?


Video 9min 40sec


Malm�, Sweden (Roseng�rd) 18 December 2008 5min 4sec
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweden is just another example of failed muslim immigration.
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HughCl



Joined: 18 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mises

Do you think a good idea might be to let the Muslim Swedes gather in one place in Sweden? Then the state can later allow these concentration camps to be walled off for "the protection of the Muslims"?
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't matter. Hugh. If you've somehow managed to squeeze citizenship out of a naive Western nation I wouldn't get too attached to it. The likelihood of you still holding it in 20 years is as good as me holding Saudi citizenship.
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