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Alias

Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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| You're statement saying that prostitution is directed at foreigners only is slightly incorrect. |
I think the poster who made that comment was being sarcastic. |
Yes, I was being sarcastic.
It has been said by the anti-foreigner crowd that prostitution is aimed at foreigners/GI's. This is utterly ridiculous. |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Location: Kuwait
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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It has been said by the anti-foreigner crowd that prostitution is aimed at foreigners/GI's. This is utterly ridiculous.
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Hmm.
There is some resentment on the part of some Korean people, that large divisions of the US Army which are posted in Korea are usually young, unmarried and low-ranking, and this fuels a prostitution industry around the bases where they are stationed. Other countries where there are large bases such as UK, Germany etc. get more of the families and higher ranking soldiers.
Now, I don't agree with this view, and believe that in this potentially brutal war zone, a lot of infantry is needed strategically. The situation cannot be avoided, so should not be a source of resentment; rather an accepted, necessary evil.
In fact, one of the people who told me this was a corporate student who I once went to a room salon with. I think many expats very much confuse this resentment for a belief that foreigners, or GI's are the only patrons of prostitutes. I have never met a Korean in four years who has expressed a view that Koreans do not use prostitutes, one would have to be blind to harbour that belief.
But I LISTEN to people, and have no preconceptions of people's perceptions.
A lot of people here ought to do the same, and should stop putting thoughts into other people's minds, to justify their own prejudice about what Koreans do and don't believe. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Commercial sex survives despite crackdown:
No matter who's to blame for the proliferation of prostitution in Korea, sex-for-cash is still an everyday business here
By Brian Lee, JoongAng Daily (March 16, 2009)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2902258
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"If you look at the numbers, coming down from a 24 trillion won industry to a 14 trillion won one is a step forward," said Cho Sin-suk, an official at the Ministry of Gender Equality. According to ministry estimates, there were 269,000 active sex workers in Korea in 2007, a decline from 320,000 five years earlier....
The numbers seem to reflect the reality. In 2003, the number of men arrested for buying sex services stood at 12,737 but that number is expected to reach 40,000 this year.
Even with the government initiative to clamp down on the sex industry, the Korea Center for Disease Control and Prevention says that more than 100,000 women in massage parlors and room salons are required to take mandatory tests every six months for venereal disease under the Epidemic Prevention Act.... |
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madoka

Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Commercial sex survives despite crackdown:
No matter who's to blame for the proliferation of prostitution in Korea, sex-for-cash is still an everyday business here
By Brian Lee, JoongAng Daily (March 16, 2009)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2902258
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http://joongangdaily.joins.com/_data/photo/2009/03/15215123.jpg
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"If you look at the numbers, coming down from a 24 trillion won industry to a 14 trillion won one is a step forward," said Cho Sin-suk, an official at the Ministry of Gender Equality. According to ministry estimates, there were 269,000 active sex workers in Korea in 2007, a decline from 320,000 five years earlier....
The numbers seem to reflect the reality. In 2003, the number of men arrested for buying sex services stood at 12,737 but that number is expected to reach 40,000 this year.
Even with the government initiative to clamp down on the sex industry, the Korea Center for Disease Control and Prevention says that more than 100,000 women in massage parlors and room salons are required to take mandatory tests every six months for venereal disease under the Epidemic Prevention Act.... |
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Stll better than the Brits, who spend almost double on prostitutes than on movies:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1271028.stm
And given that 1.2 million CHILDREN are involved in prostitution in the U.S., the Koreans seem downright tame:
http://www.youthnoise.com/page.php?page_id=2546 |
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RJjr

Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Location: Turning on a Lamp
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Can anyone explain how the Ministry of Gender Equality counted the number of prostitutes in South Korea? Or how youthnoise.com counted the number of child prostitutes in America? Or how Stevie Wonder counted the number of stars in the sky? |
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ReeseDog

Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Location: Classified
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, now there's a reliable source. That site contains only just slightly more reliable information than Real Reality's posts.  |
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michaelambling
Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Location: Paradise
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, now there's a reliable source. That site contains only just slightly more reliable information than Real Reality's posts.  |
It's on the internet, so it must be true. |
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ReeseDog

Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Location: Classified
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, now there's a reliable source. That site contains only just slightly more reliable information than Real Reality's posts.  |
It's on the internet, so it must be true. |
You might have something there... |
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samcheokguy

Joined: 02 Nov 2008 Location: Samcheok G-do
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| But RRs posts are from Korean Sources, which usually are PRO-Korea? Correct? |
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strange_brew
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| madoka wrote: |
| Real Reality wrote: |
Commercial sex survives despite crackdown:
No matter who's to blame for the proliferation of prostitution in Korea, sex-for-cash is still an everyday business here
By Brian Lee, JoongAng Daily (March 16, 2009)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2902258
image url
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/_data/photo/2009/03/15215123.jpg
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"If you look at the numbers, coming down from a 24 trillion won industry to a 14 trillion won one is a step forward," said Cho Sin-suk, an official at the Ministry of Gender Equality. According to ministry estimates, there were 269,000 active sex workers in Korea in 2007, a decline from 320,000 five years earlier....
The numbers seem to reflect the reality. In 2003, the number of men arrested for buying sex services stood at 12,737 but that number is expected to reach 40,000 this year.
Even with the government initiative to clamp down on the sex industry, the Korea Center for Disease Control and Prevention says that more than 100,000 women in massage parlors and room salons are required to take mandatory tests every six months for venereal disease under the Epidemic Prevention Act.... |
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Stll better than the Brits, who spend almost double on prostitutes than on movies:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1271028.stm
And given that 1.2 million CHILDREN are involved in prostitution in the U.S., the Koreans seem downright tame:
http://www.youthnoise.com/page.php?page_id=2546 |
Ummm, if you look at the numbers from xe.com, Koreans spend far more on prostitution. 14 trillion won equals roughly 10 billion dollars, where as 770 million pounds equals around 1 billion US dollars. So they spend more on prostitution than movies, doesn't mean they spend close to what Koreans spend on it. Damn blind apologists. |
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Goku
Joined: 10 Dec 2008
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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I've always wondered, and this seems like the perfect thread to post it:
Is a busines room a place to do business?
Or a place to get busy? |
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RJjr

Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Location: Turning on a Lamp
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| michaelambling wrote: |
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Yeah, now there's a reliable source. That site contains only just slightly more reliable information than Real Reality's posts.  |
It's on the internet, so it must be true. |
The 1,200,000 American child prostitutes versus the 269,000 Korean prostitutes is the funniest of all. That would put the ratio at 45 American child prostitutes for every 10 Korean prostitutes of any age. Okay, so imagine all of the barbershops, room salons, call girls, red light districts, tabangs, freelancers, adult karaeoke parlors, anmas and whatever other type of poontang peddling establishment in Korea and multiply it by 450% and that being the child prostitution in America. Um, I don't think so. I realize Michael Jackson has an endless supply of money, but he has only so much time on his hands.  |
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michaelambling
Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Location: Paradise
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:53 am Post subject: |
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I've always wondered, and this seems like the perfect thread to post it:
Is a busines room a place to do business?
Or a place to get busy? |
Tom n Toms Coffee House in Itaewon has a business room, and its walls are transparent glass.
So, obviously, the rooms are for sex. |
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iknownothing
Joined: 14 May 2008
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:56 am Post subject: |
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you know what it is
i think prostitution in the states is a lot more subtle and exclusive to the upper-classes. in the states prostitution is not so common among the middle classes. $200 for a quick good time isn't considered exactly reasonable, nor culturally familiar.
in korea it seems prostitution is culturally acceptable for any commoner with 200,000 won.
but if you think of all the behind-the-scenes activities that american millionaires, politicians and CEOs engage in, the numbers would mirror those of korea. |
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Guri Guy

Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Location: Bamboo Island
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:03 am Post subject: |
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Interesting. It seems South Koreans are addicted to porn. They spend 12 times as much per capita as the USA and 17 1/2 times as much as Canada.
Pornography Time Statistics
Every second - $3,075.64 is being spent on pornography
Every second - 28,258 Internet users are viewing pornography
Every second - 372 Internet users are typing adult search terms into search engines
Every 39 minutes: a new pornographic video is being created in the United States
2006 Worldwide Pornography Revenues
Country Revenue
(Billions) Per Capita Notes
China $27.40 $27.41 1
South Korea $25.73 $526.76
Japan $19.98 $156.75
US $13.33 $44.67
Australia $2.00 $98.70
UK $1.97 $31.84
Italy $1.40 $24.08
Canada $1.00 $30.21
Philippines $1.00 $11.18
Taiwan $1.00 $43.41 1
Germany $.64 $7.77 1
Finland $.60 $114.70 1
Czech Republic $.46 $44.94 1
Russia $.25 $1.76 1
Netherlands $.20 $12.13
Brazil $.10 $53.17 1
Other 212 Unavailable 2
$97.06 Billion
Notes 1=Incomplete, 2=Unavailable data
http://internet-filter-review.toptenreviews.com/internet-pornography-statistics.html#anchor1
Country Porn Pages
United States 244,661,900
Germany 10,030,200
United Kingdom 8,506,800
Australia 5,655,800
Japan 2,700,800
The Netherlands 1,883,800
Russia 1,080,600
Poland 1,049,600
Spain 852,800
It appears that the United States produces most of the pornography and South Korea loves to watch them. That is a trade deficit worse than the auto industry.
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| Figures from the UK's Internet Watch Foundation (IWF) clearly illustrate the global nature of internet paedophilia. The IWF monitors the origins of all illegal child abuse images reported in the UK. The USA and Russia predominate in this roll call of shame. Criminals in these countries are the biggest suppliers of child pornography on the planet. Only two other countries are sufficiently large producers to warrant a specific mention. One is Brazil, the other is South Korea, each at 4%, compared with 55% and 23% respectively for the USA and Russia. |
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2004/nov/15/society.childprotection
It indeed appears that the USA and Russia have a huge problem here. Uri Nara makes the list of shame as well.
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"One in Two Koreans Bought Cell Phone Porn"
Korea's major mobile operators earned W113 billion (US$113 million) last year from selling adult content, reveals Digital Chosunibo. The number of people who bought adult content through their mobile phones accounted for almost half of all mobile phone subscribers.
According to a report submitted by the Information and Communication Ministry, out of the total revenues of W2.4 trillion earned by mobile operators from providing wireless internet service, some W113 billion came from selling adult materials.
There were as many as 18.7 million uses of the service and assuming that each subscriber used the service once, almost one in two subscribers bought obscene materials using their cell phones.
Despite the growing use of adult content through mobile phones, the government has not come up with any measures to protect minors from pornography. |
http://www.textually.org/textually/archives/cat_sms_and_porn.htm |
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