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fishy
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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| I never answer my phone when it's a number I don't recognize. Just ignore the calls. It's simple. No one says you have to answer your phone. At least at my uni, the official stuff comes through email anyway. |
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gazz
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:35 am Post subject: |
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Im a firm beliver in you get what you give back. In my experience of Korea this is more than true!
Meet the guy FFS....... He will no doubht just want to know how the country is doing ect.............. In one word s*it. 
Then just explain your point. He will be more than able to stop future nusence calls + you will have made a useful freind!
Problem solved.
I dont get some people on Dave's (I dont mean you by the way). Yeah stuff like this might not happen in your own country but so what?
Take it as a complement. Like I said you reep what you sow.
Are you that busy a person that you cannot meet the guy for a meal or a beer?
Too many people are in the mindset that ohhhh its not in my contract.
I bet there is a direct correlation between such people and the people that complain that Koreans don't treat them with respect, oh they wont help me da da da da. |
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hogwonguy1979
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:39 am Post subject: |
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yeah my univ puts out our cell #s on their website and gives it to my students during m/t. i've told not to call me there if they have a problem come to my office or call me on my office phone. so far no problems and no calls from faculty or students, just my dept chair
at a previous univ i had students call me on my cell to complain about grades one even the day before graduation after i'd left the school
i do think it may be time though to tell my school that my number has changed and give them a dummy number |
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crosbystillsstash
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| gazz wrote: |
Im a firm beliver in you get what you give back. In my experience of Korea this is more than true!
Meet the guy FFS....... He will no doubht just want to know how the country is doing ect.............. In one word s*it.
Then just explain your point. He will be more than able to stop future nusence calls + you will have made a useful freind!
Problem solved.
I dont get some people on Dave's (I dont mean you by the way). Yeah stuff like this might not happen in your own country but so what?
Take it as a complement. Like I said you reep what you sow.
Are you that busy a person that you cannot meet the guy for a meal or a beer?
Too many people are in the mindset that ohhhh its not in my contract.
I bet there is a direct correlation between such people and the people that complain that Koreans don't treat them with respect, oh they wont help me da da da da. |
Tru....ask him about his culture. You know, booking clubs, domi girls, all the good stuff. He may even have a uni credit card. |
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Mr Crowley
Joined: 23 Mar 2006
Location: Suwon
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:45 am Post subject: |
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| My cell phone nuber on the uni website is my old phone number I changed over a year ago. I gave my students a syllabus that has my new phone number on it. |
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hugekebab
Joined: 05 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| gazz wrote: |
Im a firm beliver in you get what you give back. In my experience of Korea this is more than true!
Meet the guy FFS....... He will no doubht just want to know how the country is doing ect.............. In one word s*it.
Then just explain your point. He will be more than able to stop future nusence calls + you will have made a useful freind!
Problem solved.
I dont get some people on Dave's (I dont mean you by the way). Yeah stuff like this might not happen in your own country but so what?
Take it as a complement. Like I said you reep what you sow.
Are you that busy a person that you cannot meet the guy for a meal or a beer?
Too many people are in the mindset that ohhhh its not in my contract.
I bet there is a direct correlation between such people and the people that complain that Koreans don't treat them with respect, oh they wont help me da da da da. |
I see your point, the positive angle, and it's a good one...however, without exception, every single time I've been approached in this uni over the course of the year, it's been because someone wants something from me. It's made me cynical.
Actually I've found it really insulting; when I first came here Iwanted to get to know the Korean staff, but they just weren't interested. All they were interested in was getting me to do editing work, write for the newspaper, practice their English. It's left me feeling jaded and just a little insulted. I remember one time I met this member of staff and thought wow, she speaks good English, so I'll try and get to know her and bam, after talking for 3 minutes, she was actually approaching me to get me to write for the uni magazine as all new foreign staff do it. Once I wrote it for her I never saw her again; this has happened time after time after time after time.
The foreign staff at our school are treated as if we were invisible, irresponsible, unable to handle responsibility and with general low level disdain. The staff approaching us to do all this work for them (which I usually do) have maximum 9 hours a week teaching (this is a busy semester for them) we have 18 plus special classes.
Anyway, nuff' said on this...  the weather's nice this weekend!
Thanks for letting me blow off steam; it was necessary! |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| gazz wrote: |
Im a firm beliver in you get what you give back. In my experience of Korea this is more than true!
Meet the guy FFS....... He will no doubht just want to know how the country is doing ect.............. In one word s*it.
Then just explain your point. He will be more than able to stop future nusence calls + you will have made a useful freind!
Problem solved.
I dont get some people on Dave's (I dont mean you by the way). Yeah stuff like this might not happen in your own country but so what?
Take it as a complement. Like I said you reep what you sow.
Are you that busy a person that you cannot meet the guy for a meal or a beer?
Too many people are in the mindset that ohhhh its not in my contract.
I bet there is a direct correlation between such people and the people that complain that Koreans don't treat them with respect, oh they wont help me da da da da. |
Maybe you should re write that post in a way that makes sense. What is your mother tongue? |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| My uni doesn't publish personal phone numbers and we have a strict policy about not giving out personal info. Very strict. |
My department has a small one-page "professors' phone directory" (office, extension, cell, email), but it is only given out to the other profs in the department, and never to the students. The only calls I've received were from the office girls, and only for official department business. No profs begging for private lessons, no students begging for grades.
On the other hand, my last uni gave my number out to every student who asked, and the only ones to ask were the ones begging for grades. At Christmas time. They even gave students the address where I lived so they could show up at my door and beg for grades in person. The dumb bint couldn't understand why I would be so angry about the invasion of privacy... that is until I gave ALL my students HER information the following semester. All of a sudden privacy is important. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:39 am Post subject: |
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Im a firm beliver in you get what you give back....
Take it as a complement. Like I said you reep what you sow....
... Koreans don't treat them with respect, oh they wont help me da da da da. |
Who has been abused or exploited by their employers
Yes I have 70% [44]
No I have not 29% [18]
Total Votes: 62
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=131898
Late pay... worth the wait?
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=37989
Poll: Have you been paid late in Korea?
Never - I must be lucky! 32% [48]
Once or twice - no big deal, minor annoyance. 21% [31]
Several times - hate it! 20% [30]
Several times - but I understand the culture, doesn't bother me... 4% [7]
Many times - sigh... 16% [24]
WTF! I've never been paid on time! ARGH!!! 4% [7]
Total Votes : 147
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Are you that busy a person that you cannot meet the guy for a meal or a beer?
Too many people are in the mindset that ohhhh its not in my contract.
I bet there is a direct correlation between such people and the people that complain that Koreans don't treat them with respect, oh they wont help me da da da da. |
Let's talk about respect.
The OP invited him to his tutoring class. The guy wouldn't listen. He kept asking for his apartment number. That's not respect.
You are correct, though, giving into demanding people, being pushed around, and allowing people to invade your private space and apartment aren't in the contract. Good for the OP stating his opinion, offering the guy a chance to meet professionally and keeping his personal time personal.
I, for one, am often too busy to meet people for dinner some nights, much less let strangers come over uninvited to my apartment. |
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hugekebab
Joined: 05 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| It is possible the guy genuinly wanted to meet with me socially. The question is, do you do that by making a cold call and then in the second sentence on the phone, asking for my apartment number, essentially insisting upon meeting me, now, chigum, this second please? It's laughably unreasonable and rude. |
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