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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:38 am Post subject: Seeing as we are all drug takers, paedophiles, bums etc etc |
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These labels get bandied around a bit too much by the Korean media when it comes to describing or reporting on our presence in their wonderful country. (no saracasm intended )
Our new friends who will be coming from the Philippines, India and Singapore to teach alongside us - how do you think they will be treated by the Korean media? Surely there will be a honeymoon period where they will be compared favourably to us but sooner or later - Korean racism will raise its ugly head but will they be labelled 'drug takers' 'paedophiles' 'fake degree holders' who can't get jobs in their own country? Seeing as they are all going to be certified teachers - I doubt they will be villified in the same way we are - but be sure they will be villified - how do you think the Korean media are going to portray the new teachers?
PS: I'm so happy they are coming here - just imagine the next GEPIK conference with all those pretty Filipina teachers! It will be worth going to for once! |
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T-J

Joined: 10 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:13 am Post subject: Re: Seeing as we are all drug takers, paedophiles, bums etc |
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bundangbabo wrote: |
These labels get bandied around a bit too much by the Korean media when it comes to describing or reporting on our presence in their wonderful country. (no saracasm intended )
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You forgot sex crazed women chasers...
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PS: I'm so happy they are coming here - just imagine the next GEPIK conference with all those pretty Filipina teachers! It will be worth going to for once!
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Oh, no you didn't. I'm sorry what was your point again? |
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ppcg4

Joined: 16 Oct 2008
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:15 am Post subject: |
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The thing is that we're mostly young North Americans, where drug use is somewhat of a norm. Koreans generalize everything, so to them, we are all of these things.
The only drugs I take are from my doc.. but get this. I hurt my back a while ago, and the doctor wouldn't give me anything for the pain, just an anti inflammatory that destroyed my stomach.
I get a cough, and he gives me 20mg pure codeine pills to be taken 3 times per day. It just doesn't make sense. |
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Robot_Teacher
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Location: Robotting Around the World
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:25 am Post subject: |
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Are you serious? I sense that I'm being viewed and compared to movie actors; not pedophiles, bums, drug addicts, etc., but I'm in a small town and don't look like a grungy hippy. They wouldn't even know what a pot smoker is nor am I doing that here. Drinking beer is not looked down upon as even my main co-teacher admitted to staying up until 3AM drinking and wanted to sleep. I sense they have respect for me and see me as a professional, but they lack the English speaking abilities and confidence to talk to me and include me in their community so I'm given lots of time and space to myself.
Maybe in the cities, they're more people who view us negatively, but the only negative viewing of me I'm sensing is old retirees may not approve of me poisoning the kids minds with foreign ideas or are simply uncomfortable of my being here, but they can't say or do anything about it as they're not charge. What those old people think and say doesn't amount to a hill of beans. My town is nearly all retirees with the exception of civil service people. |
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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:35 am Post subject: |
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Robot_Teacher wrote: |
Are you serious? I sense that I'm being viewed and compared to movie actors; not pedophiles, bums, drug addicts, etc., but I'm in a small town and don't look like a grungy hippy. They wouldn't even know what a pot smoker is nor am I doing that here. Drinking beer is not looked down upon as even my main co-teacher admitted to staying up until 3AM drinking and wanted to sleep. I sense they have respect for me and see me as a professional, but they lack the English speaking abilities and confidence to talk to me and include me in their community so I'm given lots of time and space to myself.
Maybe in the cities, they're more people who view us negatively, but the only negative viewing of me I'm sensing is old retirees may not approve of me poisoning the kids minds with foreign ideas or are simply uncomfortable of my being here, but they can't say or do anything about it as they're not charge. What those old people think and say doesn't amount to a hill of beans. |
Do you read any of the newspapers? Sure we are responsible for the personal image we project around us and I'm not a grungy hippy either, but if you read the Korean media or watch the Korean media - then we are portrayed in a very negative light. They won't be able to portray the Filipinas, Indians or Singaporeans as drug takers or drunks as a lot of them come from very religious, spiritual backgrounds as well as being certified - but they won't be spared the villianization either - I would like to know what angle the Korean media might go for.
Where is Real Reality when you need him!  |
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harlowethrombey

Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:36 am Post subject: |
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this is asia. everyone's perception of westerners come from movies and tv.
White people? Smoke pot, chase women.
Black people? will rob you at gun point
Hispanic people? probably here illegally (of course!)
Asian people? oh wait. . . they're ok (unless they're japanese) |
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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:37 am Post subject: Re: Seeing as we are all drug takers, paedophiles, bums etc |
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T-J wrote: |
bundangbabo wrote: |
These labels get bandied around a bit too much by the Korean media when it comes to describing or reporting on our presence in their wonderful country. (no saracasm intended )
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You forgot sex crazed women chasers...
bundangbabo wrote: |
PS: I'm so happy they are coming here - just imagine the next GEPIK conference with all those pretty Filipina teachers! It will be worth going to for once!
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Oh, no you didn't. I'm sorry what was your point again? |
Difference with me is that if they tell me to get lost - I will make myself scarce!  |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:35 am Post subject: |
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I was just speaking with a recruiter who has been trying very hard to recruit teachers from the Philippines and India, and he's having a terribly difficult time doing it. The problem isn't finding teachers from those countries -- it's convincing the Korean principals to accept them and hire them. Short answer: It's not happening by a longshot. He said that these schools would rather hire more Korean English teachers before they'd consider someone from one of the above-mentioned countries.
The Korean principals are flat-out rejecting the idea entirely.
If you are a recruiter reading this message, and actually have some positive placement experiences in this regard, please PM me. I'd like to do a podcast on it. |
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ryoga013

Joined: 23 Nov 2008
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:45 am Post subject: |
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they'l just be labeled something else and have random racism directed at them. Move along there's nothing to see here |
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indytrucks

Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Location: The Shelf
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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ppcg4 wrote: |
Koreans generalize everything. |
Quote of the year. |
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harlowethrombey

Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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indytrucks wrote: |
ppcg4 wrote: |
Koreans generalize everything. |
Quote of the year. |
lol. 'You cant judge a place you've never been to, dad.'
'Yeah, that's what people do in Russia' -Simpsons |
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Teelo

Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Wellington, NZ
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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All asians in our countries are non-english speaking nuisance ching chongs. |
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hugekebab

Joined: 05 Jan 2008
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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The racism people complain about has been keeping us in work. |
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michaelambling
Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Location: Paradise
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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ppcg4 wrote: |
The thing is that we're mostly young North Americans, where drug use is somewhat of a norm. |
North America is NOT Canada.  |
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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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bassexpander wrote: |
I was just speaking with a recruiter who has been trying very hard to recruit teachers from the Philippines and India, and he's having a terribly difficult time doing it. The problem isn't finding teachers from those countries -- it's convincing the Korean principals to accept them and hire them. Short answer: It's not happening by a longshot. He said that these schools would rather hire more Korean English teachers before they'd consider someone from one of the above-mentioned countries.
The Korean principals are flat-out rejecting the idea entirely.
If you are a recruiter reading this message, and actually have some positive placement experiences in this regard, please PM me. I'd like to do a podcast on it. |
Is this in the area around Seoul and district? Would the Korean principals in more rural areas - where some of the schools have never had a native English speaking teacher, baulk at the idea of having a Singaporean, Indian or Filipina teacher? I would have thought not but never underestimate the racism here.
Talking of which - a friend of mine who is Maltese and speaks perfect English wants to know why Malta isn't one of the seven countries - Malta's official language is English And they are part of the EU! My mate and a few of his pals would jump at the chance to come and work here. |
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