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bacasper
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 Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:36 am Post subject: Now Canadians shoe Bush |
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Canadians throw shoes to protest Bush
1 day ago
OTTAWA (AFP) � Three Canadians were arrested and others threw shoes in protest against George W. Bush on Tuesday when he gave his first post-presidential speech in western Canada's oil patch.
The footwear was tossed at an effigy of the 43rd US president outside a Calgary conference center where Bush was to speak to some 1,500 people at a luncheon, said Colette Lemieux of the Canadian Peace Alliance.
Some 200 protestors from across the country had gathered for the demonstration against Bush's invasion of Iraq and rendition of terror suspects, she said in a telephone interview with AFP.
They traded insults with guests lined up around the building, and "three people were taken away by police," she said. "It was a heated rally, but not a violent rally," she added.
A Calgary police spokeswoman said one protestor had been charged with obstruction and assaulting a policeman. Charges against two others were not announced.
"We had shoes sent in (to us) from across the country," Lemieux said earlier, charging Bush is a "war criminal" who must be prosecuted for his former administration's policies in the US "war on terror."
"It doesn't matter that he is no longer president," she added. "A bank robber who stops holding up banks can and must still be prosecuted for his crimes." The same applies for Bush, she said.
The address, billed as "A Conversation with George W. Bush," was the first of at least 10 speeches to be announced in Canada, Asia and Europe, a source familiar with his plans told AFP.
The Washington Speaker's Bureau, which is organizing his post-presidential speaking tour, listed the Calgary event simply as "Remarks by George W. Bush."
In its profile of the former president, it says: "President during a momentous period in American history, George W. Bush offers his thoughts on eight years in the Oval Office, the challenges facing our nation in the 21st century, the power of freedom, the role of faith, and other pressing issues."
Local media said guests paid as much as 400 Canadian dollars (315 US) each to attend.
Earlier, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation said Bush arrived in a private jet overnight and surprised patrons of an Italian restaurant when he dropped in for a bite to eat Monday evening.
"By all accounts the president was friendly, relaxed, cordial, (and) expressed many times he was happy to be in Calgary," the public broadcaster said.
Alberta is a generally conservative province with an oil industry that could be especially welcoming to the former president.
Bush reportedly drew a small crowd inside and outside the Italian restaurant on Monday.
Over the weekend, however, a crowd gathered in the city to protest his upcoming speech. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:39 am Post subject: |
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Lots of Bush threads.. Has he declared martial law yet?
Blah. Anyways. Yes, Bcasper, Canadians detest the bastard. We know this. |
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Captain Corea
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Yup, even many Calgarians don't like him. |
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riverboy
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| If the folks in Cowtoen don't like him, I imagine the rest of Canada must really hate him. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Now Canadians shoe Bush |
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Canadians throw shoes to protest Bush
1 day ago
A Calgary police spokeswoman said one protestor had been charged with obstruction and assaulting a policeman. Charges against two others were not announced.
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Kind of says it all doesn't it? I'd be ashamed if I were in any way associated with these twits. I wonder if the protester considered that the office he assaulted may have felt the same way about Bush?
The police officer is just doing his job and at the end of the day wants to go home to his wife and kids, not be attacked by some troublemaker.
I hope the protester was at least tazed. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:15 am Post subject: Re: Now Canadians shoe Bush |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
Canadians throw shoes to protest Bush
1 day ago
A Calgary police spokeswoman said one protestor had been charged with obstruction and assaulting a policeman. Charges against two others were not announced.
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Kind of says it all doesn't it? I'd be ashamed if I were in any way associated with these twits. I wonder if the protester considered that the office he assaulted may have felt the same way about Bush?
The police officer is just doing his job and at the end of the day wants to go home to his wife and kids, not be attacked by some troublemaker.
I hope the protester was at least tazed. |
You apparently have never exercised your right to dissent and protest. You have no idea how easy it is to be charged with obstructing a cop, or to be assaulted by one and for him to then charge you with assaulting him first.
Didn't you see award-winning Democracy Now! journalist Amy Goodman get arrested last year simply for asking why her colleagues were being arrested?
At the end of the day, the protester just wants to be heard, and go home to his wife and kids, not be thrown in jail on some trumped up charges. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| You apparently have never exercised your right to dissent and protest. You have no idea... |
But this is a lame story on multiple counts. Not only do Canadians continue their pathetic antiBush posturing well into postBush times, embedded in their larger anti-everything-American-that-does-not-conform-to-"Canadian-Content"-and-the-world-according-to-the-Canadians broken record. But they remain pathetically unoriginal as well. So these Canadians -- the ones you would hold in such high regard, Bacasper -- decided to exercise their right to dissent and protest? But they could only fall back on some other culture's style and symbol. Canadian culture, even its unfailing culture of dissent and protest against America, remains that vacuous. Just a nation-state populated by leftist partisan hacks and easily-mobilized street mobs for the most part. Does anything about this surprise anyone here in the least?
So congratulations, then, to the Canadians who have demonstrated they can ape the Middle East. Just sitting on the edge of my seat until I learn just who it is that they might ape next... |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:48 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| You apparently have never exercised your right to dissent and protest. You have no idea... |
But this is a lame story on multiple counts. Not only do Canadians continue their pathetic antiBush posturing well into postBush times, embedded in their larger anti-everything-American-that-does-not-conform-to-"Canadian-Content"-and-the-world-according-to-the-Canadians broken record. But they remain pathetically unoriginal as well. So these Canadians -- the ones you would hold in such high regard, Bacasper -- decided to exercise their right to dissent and protest? But they could only fall back on some other culture's style and symbol. Canadian culture, even its unfailing culture of dissent and protest against America, remains that vacuous. Just a nation-state populated by leftist partisan hacks and easily-mobilized street mobs for the most part. Does anything about this surprise anyone here in the least?
So congratulations, then, to the Canadians who have demonstrated they can ape the Middle East. Just sitting on the edge of my seat until I learn just who it is that they might ape next... |
Sorry, but I don't recall ever espousing Canadians as paragons of originality.
In any event, Bush certainly warrants a bunch of anti-post-posturing. As objectionable as Obama is, it will still be hard to let go of all that Bush hath wrought anytime soon. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Now Canadians shoe Bush |
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Kind of says it all doesn't it? I'd be ashamed if I were in any way associated with these twits. I wonder if the protester considered that the office he assaulted may have felt the same way about Bush?
The police officer is just doing his job and at the end of the day wants to go home to his wife and kids, not be attacked by some troublemaker.
I hope the protester was at least tazed. |
You apparently have never exercised your right to dissent and protest. You have no idea how easy it is to be charged with obstructing a cop, or to be assaulted by one and for him to then charge you with assaulting him first.
Didn't you see award-winning Democracy Now! journalist Amy Goodman get arrested last year simply for asking why her colleagues were being arrested?
At the end of the day, the protester just wants to be heard, and go home to his wife and kids, not be thrown in jail on some trumped up charges. |
So I staged the following incident just in time to underscore my point:
BULLETIN: Busted while reporting in Alexandria, Va.
By Wayne Madsen
Online Journal Contributing Writer
Mar 18, 2009
(WMR) -- This editor has covered the news in nasty dictatorships and corruption-ridden countries from Rwanda and Uganda to India and Thailand. I have also reported on journalists like our colleague John Caylor, who was arrested in Panama City, Florida, while trying to obtain public documents, pursuant to Florida�s open government law, on that state�s abuse and even murder of prison inmates.
In the eight years of the Bush-Cheney administration, I covered anti-war protests in Washington and never once did I face an arrest situation, although there were some close calls. My arrest-free journalism record was shattered last night in Alexandria, Virginia, while meeting a confidential source.
I hoped to report today on a significant link between �Sir� Allen Stanford�s collapsed Stanford Financial Group and a top Democratic Party lobbyist who is close to the Obama administration. I also hoped to report on the covert activities of Stanford�s operations in Venezuela and Panama.
That story will have to wait, unfortunately.
Last night, while meeting the source in O�Connell�s Irish pub in Alexandria, Alexandria police, who apparently had plainclothes police inside the St. Patrick�s Day-jam packed establishment, arrested my source for no apparent reason while I and the source�s wife looked on in shock. When I asked one of the men who forced the source to the ground outside why they were placing him under arrest, he shouted to me to �back off.� I asked the man if he was a police officer. His response was, �No, I�m a fireman.�
I then told the �fireman� that I was a member of the press, produced my credentials, and wanted to know what the charges were against my source. He then motioned to someone behind me who shoved me up against a police SUV and placed me in handcuffs.
I was taken to Alexandria city jail and booked for �drunk in public.� Of course, there was no blood test or field sobriety test administered by anyone, police or �firemen,� to prove the spurious charge.
Then again, I did not have it as bad as some people who have been victims of America�s �justice� system. I was not hooded, chained, placed on a plane for God-knows-where and subjected to torture by brutish Third World interrogators. Nor was I placed in solitary confinement without seeing the light of day. However, I was not permitted to speak to an attorney nor was I read my Miranda rights in this Kafkaesque post-Miranda era.
I am also quite concerned about the fate of my source whom I only saw once in the �lockup.� The cops were extremely physically rough with him for some unknown reason.
There was also something very unsettling about the police retaining custody of my reporter�s notebook for some three hours while I was under arrest.
In a way, I should not be surprised that this arrest took place in Alexandria. The town has always crawled with intelligence types and other covert players, from neo-Confederates involved with the global small arms business to the CIA-linked International Association of Chiefs of Police and the infamous U.S. Court for the Eastern District of Virginia national security �rocket docket� team of Chief Judge James Cacheris and his attorney brother, Plato. Alexandria is only outdone by trendy McLean for the greatest number of spooks per square mile. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: Now Canadians shoe Bush |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
Canadians throw shoes to protest Bush
1 day ago
A Calgary police spokeswoman said one protestor had been charged with obstruction and assaulting a policeman. Charges against two others were not announced.
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Kind of says it all doesn't it? I'd be ashamed if I were in any way associated with these twits. I wonder if the protester considered that the office he assaulted may have felt the same way about Bush?
The police officer is just doing his job and at the end of the day wants to go home to his wife and kids, not be attacked by some troublemaker.
I hope the protester was at least tazed. |
You apparently have never exercised your right to dissent and protest. You have no idea how easy it is to be charged with obstructing a cop, or to be assaulted by one and for him to then charge you with assaulting him first.
Oh I have. I have on the other hand never attacked a cop. And you are claiming that the cop assaulted said protester first? Any links to back this up.
Didn't you see award-winning Democracy Now! journalist Amy Goodman get arrested last year simply for asking why her colleagues were being arrested?
At the end of the day, the protester just wants to be heard, and go home to his wife and kids, not be thrown in jail on some trumped up charges. |
Then he should print his view in a letter to the Editor. And he should keep his hands to himself. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: Now Canadians shoe Bush |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
Kind of says it all doesn't it? I'd be ashamed if I were in any way associated with these twits. I wonder if the protester considered that the office he assaulted may have felt the same way about Bush?
The police officer is just doing his job and at the end of the day wants to go home to his wife and kids, not be attacked by some troublemaker.
I hope the protester was at least tazed. |
You apparently have never exercised your right to dissent and protest. You have no idea how easy it is to be charged with obstructing a cop, or to be assaulted by one and for him to then charge you with assaulting him first.
Didn't you see award-winning Democracy Now! journalist Amy Goodman get arrested last year simply for asking why her colleagues were being arrested?
At the end of the day, the protester just wants to be heard, and go home to his wife and kids, not be thrown in jail on some trumped up charges. |
So I staged the following incident just in time to underscore my point:
BULLETIN: Busted while reporting in Alexandria, Va.
By Wayne Madsen
Online Journal Contributing Writer
Mar 18, 2009
(WMR) -- This editor has covered the news in nasty dictatorships and corruption-ridden countries from Rwanda and Uganda to India and Thailand. I have also reported on journalists like our colleague John Caylor, who was arrested in Panama City, Florida, while trying to obtain public documents, pursuant to Florida�s open government law, on that state�s abuse and even murder of prison inmates.
In the eight years of the Bush-Cheney administration, I covered anti-war protests in Washington and never once did I face an arrest situation, although there were some close calls. My arrest-free journalism record was shattered last night in Alexandria, Virginia, while meeting a confidential source.
I hoped to report today on a significant link between �Sir� Allen Stanford�s collapsed Stanford Financial Group and a top Democratic Party lobbyist who is close to the Obama administration. I also hoped to report on the covert activities of Stanford�s operations in Venezuela and Panama.
That story will have to wait, unfortunately.
Last night, while meeting the source in O�Connell�s Irish pub in Alexandria, Alexandria police, who apparently had plainclothes police inside the St. Patrick�s Day-jam packed establishment, arrested my source for no apparent reason while I and the source�s wife looked on in shock. When I asked one of the men who forced the source to the ground outside why they were placing him under arrest, he shouted to me to �back off.� I asked the man if he was a police officer. His response was, �No, I�m a fireman.�
I then told the �fireman� that I was a member of the press, produced my credentials, and wanted to know what the charges were against my source. He then motioned to someone behind me who shoved me up against a police SUV and placed me in handcuffs.
I was taken to Alexandria city jail and booked for �drunk in public.� Of course, there was no blood test or field sobriety test administered by anyone, police or �firemen,� to prove the spurious charge.
Then again, I did not have it as bad as some people who have been victims of America�s �justice� system. I was not hooded, chained, placed on a plane for God-knows-where and subjected to torture by brutish Third World interrogators. Nor was I placed in solitary confinement without seeing the light of day. However, I was not permitted to speak to an attorney nor was I read my Miranda rights in this Kafkaesque post-Miranda era.
I am also quite concerned about the fate of my source whom I only saw once in the �lockup.� The cops were extremely physically rough with him for some unknown reason.
There was also something very unsettling about the police retaining custody of my reporter�s notebook for some three hours while I was under arrest.
In a way, I should not be surprised that this arrest took place in Alexandria. The town has always crawled with intelligence types and other covert players, from neo-Confederates involved with the global small arms business to the CIA-linked International Association of Chiefs of Police and the infamous U.S. Court for the Eastern District of Virginia national security �rocket docket� team of Chief Judge James Cacheris and his attorney brother, Plato. Alexandria is only outdone by trendy McLean for the greatest number of spooks per square mile. |
The original story was about Canadians protesting BUSH. This guy seems to be claiming to be arrested under the OBAMA administration. Read the third paragraph for what the Obama administration has to do with it.
As for my personal feelings on this story, I am left feeling disappointed. The next time that you post a story to support something do you think you could find something that has at least one tazing in it?
Thanks in advance. |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| [. Canadian culture, even its unfailing culture of dissent and protest against America, remains that vacuous. ... |
This is not Canadian culture. This is Canadian SUB-culture. Unfortunately they tend to be far more vocal than the silent majority...I'll give you that... |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: Now Canadians shoe Bush |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| The original story was about Canadians protesting BUSH. This guy seems to be claiming to be arrested under the OBAMA administration. Read the third paragraph for what the Obama administration has to do with it. |
It is your prerogative to be willfully obtuse and miss the point.
Anyway, how different do you think Canadian cops are from American ones? In my world travels and experience (this includes Communist Cuba), I have found there is a certain cop mentality that is remarkably similar. (South Korea may be an exception here. They have been essentially invisible except for that time they appeared appropriately on the scene of a traffic accident in which I was involved.) |
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wesharris
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: Now Canadians shoe Bush |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| The original story was about Canadians protesting BUSH. This guy seems to be claiming to be arrested under the OBAMA administration. Read the third paragraph for what the Obama administration has to do with it. |
It is your prerogative to be willfully obtuse and miss the point.
Anyway, how different do you think Canadian cops are from American ones? In my world travels and experience (this includes Communist Cuba), I have found there is a certain cop mentality that is remarkably similar. (South Korea may be an exception here. They have been essentially invisible except for that time they appeared appropriately on the scene of a traffic accident in which I was involved.) |
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Yes, but you are a hippy.
Do you not watch southpark at all?
Some people on South Park Hate hippies.
Hippies only deserve to smoke pot and have
plenty of snacks to go along with their smoking.
Given enough snacks and green tube hippies become harmless
and typically spend their days sleeping eating or high.
Please sir go back to hippy land, I support your right to bear hookahs. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| This is not Canadian culture. This is Canadian SUB-culture. Unfortunately they tend to be far more vocal than the silent majority...I'll give you that... |
Thank you for meeting me halfway, then. And of course you are right. You, Bulsajo, Mindmetoo, others. And that is just here on this website.
But why deprive me of the simple pleasure of painting an entire culture and nation-state with one, broad brush just to antagonize the bastards? So few such pleasures remain, you know. And this one is free... |
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