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Oreovictim
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:17 am Post subject: Ever Hear of This Hagwon Scam? |
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My school hired a company that delivers a daily lunch for the kindy kids. The lunches aren't bad - rice, soup, kimchi, a main dish, and about four side dishes. The parents pay for this + the tuition or maybe it's included with the tuition, not sure. Nevertheless, they shell out about 1,000,000 a month, so the kids should get a decent meal.
Last month, the kindy kids graduated, and we got a new wave of students. The school canceled the service, and the owner's mother cooks all the meals now. Her cooking's really horrible - rice, kimchi, soup, and about two side dishes. Most of the kids gag a lot now. And my coworker and I just step out for lunch. Perhaps the owner picked this exact time on purpose. The new kids can't compare the putrid food with the quality food from before. But if they did, would you, as a parent, take a "Mom, Dad, school's food is yucky." from a six-year old seriously?
I mentioned all of this to one of my trustful K-coworkers, and he said, "Yeah, they're just pocketing the money."
Anyone come across this? |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| It's too bad the food sucks, but they're just cutting costs like any business. Maybe they shouldn't considering the high tuition, but if the food's that bad parents can vote with their pocketbooks and go elsewhere. |
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RyanInKorea
Joined: 17 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:05 am Post subject: |
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The ol' collect lunch money and get my mother-in-law to cook at home scam. It'll get you every time.
Sometimes, I swear you kids are new to this world,
Ryan |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Location: Eungam Loop
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:07 am Post subject: |
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| I wouldnt call it a scam. |
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Arthur Dent

Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Location: Kochu whirld
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:07 am Post subject: |
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I remember reading a few years ago that the government had put restrictions on how much schools (kindies) could charge. The schools have had trouble with reduced enrollment (30% fewer youth - and thus hagwons and elementary schools - in Korea compared with 10 years ago) and so tended to charge more for the kindy set - the dwindling market.
When the government stepped in with caps on rates, the schools simply put the missing $ (or Won) into the food column - and maybe into the materials column (books, etc.).
A school I used to work for had a cook who made all the school lunches, and some dinners for the older kids. The food was passable, but that's about it. Much like you, I rarely ate it. It isn't that it was Korean food, it just wasn't very tasty.
One of the parents, who is now a friend, told me that his son never liked the food either - and he runs a good restaurant.
As usual, law runs a distant second to Won. |
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John_ESL_White
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:17 am Post subject: |
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Do you like teaching kindy? I have nightmares about 2nd graders. I can't imagine kindy.
anyway, the food: school has to make money. The more the better, for them and for you. |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| Beej wrote: |
| I wouldnt call it a scam. |
If they are pocketing the money and not using the "caterer" they told parents they were paying for, it certainly is a scam. It's called fraud. |
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Straphanger
Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Chilgok, Korea
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| Beej wrote: |
| I wouldnt call it a scam. |
If they are pocketing the money and not using the "caterer" they told parents they were paying for, it certainly is a scam. It's called fraud. |
The word "caterer" to date appears in this thread three times. Once in your post, twice in this one.
FRANK, I love ya, but that post was more trollish than me. |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| Straphanger wrote: |
| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| Beej wrote: |
| I wouldnt call it a scam. |
If they are pocketing the money and not using the "caterer" they told parents they were paying for, it certainly is a scam. It's called fraud. |
The word "caterer" to date appears in this thread three times. Once in your post, twice in this one.
FRANK, I love ya, but that post was more trollish than me. |
From the OP: "My school hired a company that delivers a daily lunch for the kindy kids"
They were hired to provide food. Sounds like a catering-type company to me. |
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moosehead

Joined: 05 May 2007
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:01 am Post subject: |
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I disagree that the moms won't find out/don't care/won't listen to their kids.
they will - and then they'll come in and pay a visit, first one, and then another, and next thing you know, they'll straighten out the director.
and OP - if you want to help out - next time the kids say something about the food, say if you don't like it, tell your mom, no seriously, you should let your mom know.
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:48 am Post subject: |
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| moosehead wrote: |
I disagree that the moms won't find out/don't care/won't listen to their kids.
they will - and then they'll come in and pay a visit, first one, and then another, and next thing you know, they'll straighten out the director.
and OP - if you want to help out - next time the kids say something about the food, say if you don't like it, tell your mom, no seriously, you should let your mom know.
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A lot of moms might be happy to hear that their cooking is so much better than the school. It means more love for mom.
Imagine when the food was great: "Gee, Mom. School lunch is much better than yours."
Some mothers will be happier with the new arrangeme | | |