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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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 Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
A question I have for you all:
My wife needs a new computer. Should I make it 64bit Vista?
Another question: What's a good power supply these days? There seem to be crappy ones at higher prices now. I just need 350W, quiet, and solid build. |
Hey Bass,
I wouldn't make it Vista, period. There are still too many problems and Microsoft knows this, ergo their soon to be released Windows 8 (I think that is the name of it). XP is solid and I recommend that one.
Power supplies vary depending on what you need. I second 350W, but, I must ask, what will the PC be used for and what kind of video card will it have? That will determine the power you need in a PS. |
Since starting vista 3 months ago, I have talked three mates into "giving it a go" not one has gone back and two have even paid for it. I hate going back to xp at work. No major differences, just lots of little improvements. Once you get used to the minor differences, it's all good |
True, it does have a lot of nifty little things, but, for people like me that enjoy gaming (our old games, not the ones coming out this year or even last year), Vista isn't compatible with much out there.
Personally, I hate the million and one pop-ups on vista. XP doesn't have it and is extremely stable. Just my 2 cents worth. |
True, XP is great for those who like computing in the past. |
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blackjack
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| cubanlord wrote: |
| blackjack wrote: |
| cubanlord wrote: |
| bassexpander wrote: |
A question I have for you all:
My wife needs a new computer. Should I make it 64bit Vista?
Another question: What's a good power supply these days? There seem to be crappy ones at higher prices now. I just need 350W, quiet, and solid build. |
Hey Bass,
I wouldn't make it Vista, period. There are still too many problems and Microsoft knows this, ergo their soon to be released Windows 8 (I think that is the name of it). XP is solid and I recommend that one.
Power supplies vary depending on what you need. I second 350W, but, I must ask, what will the PC be used for and what kind of video card will it have? That will determine the power you need in a PS. |
Since starting vista 3 months ago, I have talked three mates into "giving it a go" not one has gone back and two have even paid for it. I hate going back to xp at work. No major differences, just lots of little improvements. Once you get used to the minor differences, it's all good |
True, it does have a lot of nifty little things, but, for people like me that enjoy gaming (our old games, not the ones coming out this year or even last year), Vista isn't compatible with much out there.
Personally, I hate the million and one pop-ups on vista. XP doesn't have it and is extremely stable. Just my 2 cents worth. |
The only game that I couldn't get to work was civilization.
Disable uac and no popups |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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It must be remembered that XP is 90's software! It was released in 2001 but the majority of its development was done in the 90's.
I also remember XP used to crash, freeze or hang about once or twice a week. Depending what I was doing with it.
I think my Vista x64 has crashed once in 18 months. I never get pop-up's.
All the crap talked on the net about Vista sucking is by morons who can't set up their computer, or are loading mad software, or have got multiple viruses by clicking every spam e-mail they get or clicking every pop-up on the internet.
I only listen to experts. Not some 16-year old dufus in Minnesota who knows sh_it about computers, but just likes to follow what others are saying........ |
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Milkman Dan
Joined: 10 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Fact is, most sane people have realized that the lifespan of a normal computer is only a few years, and aside from making sure you're not buying the absolute lowest end stuff, most components you can buy will easily last that long.
The thing that's most likely to go out is the power supply, so spend a little more money on that. Other than that, on off-the-peg system at Sunin should be fine. The retailers there want to make money, yes -- but they also don't want scores of customers taking up their time with warranty work and endless complaining. |
Thanks for the tips, IlIlNine. After weighing the different arguments, I think I'm going to bite the bullet and up the budget another 100,000 (Making it ~500,000 total) by bumping up the PSU and RAM to 4GB for Vista.
Since the one thing everybody seems to agree on is the importance of a decent quality PSU, I'll definitely invest in something decent. (e.g. Zalman, Enermax, etc.) The one thing I'm curious about now is what hardware brands I should avoid like the plague. As IlIlNine said, avoiding crap hardware should be a top priority.
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| True, XP is great for those who like computing in the past. |
ZING! |
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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
| cubanlord wrote: |
| blackjack wrote: |
| cubanlord wrote: |
| bassexpander wrote: |
A question I have for you all:
My wife needs a new computer. Should I make it 64bit Vista?
Another question: What's a good power supply these days? There seem to be crappy ones at higher prices now. I just need 350W, quiet, and solid build. |
Hey Bass,
I wouldn't make it Vista, period. There are still too many problems and Microsoft knows this, ergo their soon to be released Windows 8 (I think that is the name of it). XP is solid and I recommend that one.
Power supplies vary depending on what you need. I second 350W, but, I must ask, what will the PC be used for and what kind of video card will it have? That will determine the power you need in a PS. |
Since starting vista 3 months ago, I have talked three mates into "giving it a go" not one has gone back and two have even paid for it. I hate going back to xp at work. No major differences, just lots of little improvements. Once you get used to the minor differences, it's all good |
True, it does have a lot of nifty little things, but, for people like me that enjoy gaming (our old games, not the ones coming out this year or even last year), Vista isn't compatible with much out there.
Personally, I hate the million and one pop-ups on vista. XP doesn't have it and is extremely stable. Just my 2 cents worth. |
True, XP is great for those who like computing in the past. |
lol, yes, i must admit that XP is old. BUT, i like it. 
Vista really isn't that bad, but, i have some games that just don't seem to work well on it. I find the advice about disabling certain features on Vista pretty good. I didn't know those tricks before. Thanks. |
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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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My Laptop has Vista on it. Does that count?  |
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IlIlNine
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo
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| Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:19 am Post subject: |
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ilnine,
Are you hating on me? Don't be jealous man.  I know your post about the "quality abroad" was aimed at me.
Look, just because I couldn't remember the official title of the new Windows doesn't mean I can't give my opinion or advice regarding the current situation of Vista; everyone's entitled to their p's and q's on this board. Furthermore, I am not a computer snob. What makes you think that? Your post was just plain mean, period. I had the money and that is how I chose to spend it. Who are you to make fun of me for that? I bought my parts from different oversea companies because I have had some bad luck with parts in Korea, but zero bad luck from parts outside of Korea. That's why I buy certain things from other companies.
Don't you have something you're passionate about and if you had the cash, would spend it on your passion? If I remember correctly, you love motorcycles. If you had the disposable income to put into it, wouldn't you?
Save the nastiness for the other forums. We are nice here in the Tech. area. |
Yeah, maybe a little mean, sorry if I offended. Being a snob is not necessarily a bad thing, you know! But to extend your analogy a little: while I love motorcycles and spend chunks of money on motorcycle related stuff, I also realize that someone looking for basic transportation is going to have different needs from mine. So, if someone asks me for advice on motorcycles, I'm not going to recommend something that *I'd* want per-se, I'd use my knowledge to recommend something that is most appropriate for their needs.
Ah, and no, not jealous. I play with enough cool computer stuff at work to bother with it at home. |
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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
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| Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:30 am Post subject: |
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ilnine,
Are you hating on me? Don't be jealous man. I know your post about the "quality abroad" was aimed at me.
Look, just because I couldn't remember the official title of the new Windows doesn't mean I can't give my opinion or advice regarding the current situation of Vista; everyone's entitled to their p's and q's on this board. Furthermore, I am not a computer snob. What makes you think that? Your post was just plain mean, period. I had the money and that is how I chose to spend it. Who are you to make fun of me for that? I bought my parts from different oversea companies because I have had some bad luck with parts in Korea, but zero bad luck from parts outside of Korea. That's why I buy certain things from other companies.
Don't you have something you're passionate about and if you had the cash, would spend it on your passion? If I remember correctly, you love motorcycles. If you had the disposable income to put into it, wouldn't you?
Save the nastiness for the other forums. We are nice here in the Tech. area. |
Yeah, maybe a little mean, sorry if I offended. Being a snob is not necessarily a bad thing, you know! But to extend your analogy a little: while I love motorcycles and spend chunks of money on motorcycle related stuff, I also realize that someone looking for basic transportation is going to have different needs from mine. So, if someone asks me for advice on motorcycles, I'm not going to recommend something that *I'd* want per-se, I'd use my knowledge to recommend something that is most appropriate for their needs.
Ah, and no, not jealous. I play with enough cool computer stuff at work to bother with it at home. |
Good, we are cool now. I was starting to think after all we have shared on this board?! uh! 
On another note, good point regarding what other types of transportation people need. I'll keep it in mind (you're very true!).
Me. |
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jonbowman88
Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Location: gwangju, s korea
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Just for the record, I use vista 32 bit. It only recognized 2-3 gigs of ram (I forget) after I istalled, but with SP1 it recognizes all 4 gigs |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| For that price, you could buy a PC and build a cheap hackintosh. I managed to do it and it's great. I can boot Vista 64 and Leopard OSX. |
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