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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Location: Jeolla province
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:39 pm Post subject: Google caves to South Korean registration number demands |
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The real-name system starts April 1st, and it includes foreigner numbers as well.
http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_international/346930.html
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Google, the world�s largest Internet company, has finally submitted to South Korea�s unprecedented Internet regulations, including agreeing to implement a �real name� system in which any South Korean can post their contents only after they confirm their resident registration number.
The company plans to reorganize its site beginning April 1 so that subscribers in South Korea must confirm their real names before posting materials or replies on YouTube Korea. Concurrently April 1 is when the amendment to South Korea�s Act on the Promotion of Information and Communications Network Utilization and User Protection will go into effect. It expands the scope of sites subject to the real name registration system to those that have at least 100,000 users per day.
Previously, those wishing to create accounts in order to use various Internet services operated by Google, including YouTube, were able to do so simply by giving an ID, password and an E-mail address. Google maintains a corporate mission of providing universal access to information for all users, and has thus far applied the same user registration information procedures throughout the world.
The head offices of Google have explored various means of bypassing the �real-name registration system,� arguing that freedom of expression should be experienced globally by all users, including proposing to shut down YouTube services in South Korea but to no avail. A representative of Google Korea says that South Korea �is the first country worldwide for which Google will be collecting real-name information that can be used to identify individuals.�
It is reported that the losses were projected to be too great if Google were to shut down YouTube services in South Korea. The government had promised Google 1.2 billion won in research and development support upon entering South Korea�s market, and more through its online advertising. �It�s difficult to ignore South Korean Internet regulations while we�re engaged in offering search services as well as engaged in online advertising,� lamented a Google Korea official.
Google Korea Director Jeong-Kim Gyeong-suk said that the decision came after close consultation with Google�s U.S. headquarters. �Google respects users� rights and freedom of expression to the fullest, and at the same time it also respects local regulations,� Jeong-Kim explained.
Google Korea representatives have further indicated that they will create a way for foreigners living in South Korea to access YouTube using foreigner registration numbers. �Foreigners living in South Korea have a right to use YouTube too,� a representative said. |
Long story short, if you want to post comments or upload videos on the Korean Youtube page, you will have to submit your registration number. Will that apply to the US website (if you sign up on Youtube.com rather than Kr.youtube.com) or another youtube website? I suppose it is a handy loophole that they haven't fixed.
There is a handy "upside" to this regulation. If someone in South Korea post obscene stuff on your video comments, you can track them down with their registration number.
*knock knock*
"who's there"
"Ne-Ne chicken"
"Assa! Hey, you're not Ne-Ne chicken!"
"No, but I have a special delivery for you. It's a can. Know what's in it? Whoop-ass."
*cue terminator fight scene music* |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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And they said the Internet was supposed to be uncontrolled information. |
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samcheokguy

Joined: 02 Nov 2008 Location: Samcheok G-do
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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It was inevitable...soon big brother will be watching YOU! |
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ekul

Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Location: [Mod Edit]
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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It's an April Fools. |
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Teelo

Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Wellington, NZ
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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meh
if its true, ill just proxy back to nz |
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ChinaBoy
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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People on YouTube deserve to be punished. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Google Korea representatives have further indicated that they will create a way for foreigners living in South Korea to access YouTube using foreigner registration numbers. �Foreigners living in South Korea have a right to use YouTube too,� a representative said. |
Glad Google is looking out for us. Can't say the same for other US companies (Papa Johns). |
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harlowethrombey

Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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I quite enjoyed Jay and SIlent Bob going door to door putting an absolute beating on the internet tough guys.
The real I.D. thing will be great for about 10 minutes until the sexual predators use it to track down some kid then there will be a media scandal. Then they'll 'revamp' it and make it worse/less maneagable and finally when Real ID 6.2 comes out everyone will have moved on to whatever replaced the internet.
Government and technological progress are not synonyms. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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ekul wrote: |
It's an April Fools. |
Maybe, but do Koreans even celebrate April Fool's Day? Let alone could one come up with this? Let alone several days before April Fool's Day? I guess we'll see. |
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bluelake

Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:25 am Post subject: |
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RACETRAITOR wrote: |
ekul wrote: |
It's an April Fools. |
Maybe, but do Koreans even celebrate April Fool's Day? Let alone could one come up with this? Let alone several days before April Fool's Day? I guess we'll see. |
Sure they do--it's called 만우절 (manu jeol). When you play a joke on someone, you say "Manu jeol!" with emphasis on the "nu" part. Whenever it occurs on a class day, my joke is to take a stack of papers into class and announce, "OK, everyone--put your books away so we can get the test started." It's fun to see all the jaws drop. I then wait a few seconds and say the above-mentioned phrase. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:41 am Post subject: |
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If it is an April Fool's joke, it's a good one. I don't think there are many Koreans who are aware of how crappy the Internet is run in this country though. |
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eIn07912

Joined: 06 Dec 2008 Location: seoul
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:06 am Post subject: |
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harlowethrombey wrote: |
I quite enjoyed Jay and SIlent Bob going door to door putting an absolute beating on the internet tough guys.
The real I.D. thing will be great for about 10 minutes until the sexual predators use it to track down some kid then there will be a media scandal. Then they'll 'revamp' it and make it worse/less maneagable and finally when Real ID 6.2 comes out everyone will have moved on to whatever replaced the internet.
Government and technological progress are not synonyms. |
genius.
meh, im ok with this. youtube hasnt seen her glory days for the better part of 6 months now. my, what a fast pace world we live in today.
it used to be a goal of mine to become a partner, till u learn there are about a million youtube partners, most of which barely make any money. some, on a good month, will net about a hundred bucks or less. there r really only about a dozen partners that can support themselves from their ad revenue.
and with all the censorship and restrictions on youtube now, everything that was once cool is gone. not to mention the total right to privacy is finished, thankx Viacom... and youtube to folding into pressure.
i agree with harlowethrombey, people r already moving away from youtube to other avenues. soon there will be the "next big one" and we'll get a years use out of it if were lucky before corporate giants, big media lawyers, and the gov't decide to start sticking their face in it.
unlike the banks, insurers, the auto industry, and defense contractors, this is one area where less regulation is better. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:35 am Post subject: |
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One of the problems they will run into (if they don't close all the loopholes, which let's pray they don't) is that often foreigners ID numbers don't work when registering on a Korean site. This is going to be a huge snafu. |
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hugekebab

Joined: 05 Jan 2008
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:45 am Post subject: |
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You have little to no legal rights, can be treated like a slave by your employer, get treated like a second class non-citizen and basically, really, everyone here wants you to *beep* off back to where you came from and don't really want you here at all, but unfortunately require you for their usage on a temporary basis you filthy foreign scum........Manu jeol!  |
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hugekebab

Joined: 05 Jan 2008
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Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:54 am Post subject: Re: Google caves to South Korean registration number demands |
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agentX wrote: |
The real-name system starts April 1st, and it includes foreigner numbers as well.
http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_international/346930.html
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Google, the world�s largest Internet company, has finally submitted to South Korea�s unprecedented Internet regulations, including agreeing to implement a �real name� system in which any South Korean can post their contents only after they confirm their resident registration number.
The company plans to reorganize its site beginning April 1 so that subscribers in South Korea must confirm their real names before posting materials or replies on YouTube Korea. Concurrently April 1 is when the amendment to South Korea�s Act on the Promotion of Information and Communications Network Utilization and User Protection will go into effect. It expands the scope of sites subject to the real name registration system to those that have at least 100,000 users per day.
Previously, those wishing to create accounts in order to use various Internet services operated by Google, including YouTube, were able to do so simply by giving an ID, password and an E-mail address. Google maintains a corporate mission of providing universal access to information for all users, and has thus far applied the same user registration information procedures throughout the world.
The head offices of Google have explored various means of bypassing the �real-name registration system,� arguing that freedom of expression should be experienced globally by all users, including proposing to shut down YouTube services in South Korea but to no avail. A representative of Google Korea says that South Korea �is the first country worldwide for which Google will be collecting real-name information that can be used to identify individuals.�
It is reported that the losses were projected to be too great if Google were to shut down YouTube services in South Korea. The government had promised Google 1.2 billion won in research and development support upon entering South Korea�s market, and more through its online advertising. �It�s difficult to ignore South Korean Internet regulations while we�re engaged in offering search services as well as engaged in online advertising,� lamented a Google Korea official.
Google Korea Director Jeong-Kim Gyeong-suk said that the decision came after close consultation with Google�s U.S. headquarters. �Google respects users� rights and freedom of expression to the fullest, and at the same time it also respects local regulations,� Jeong-Kim explained.
Google Korea representatives have further indicated that they will create a way for foreigners living in South Korea to access YouTube using foreigner registration numbers. �Foreigners living in South Korea have a right to use YouTube too,� a representative said. |
Long story short, if you want to post comments or upload videos on the Korean Youtube page, you will have to submit your registration number. Will that apply to the US website (if you sign up on Youtube.com rather than Kr.youtube.com) or another youtube website? I suppose it is a handy loophole that they haven't fixed.
There is a handy "upside" to this regulation. If someone in South Korea post obscene stuff on your video comments, you can track them down with their registration number.
*knock knock*
"who's there"
"Ne-Ne chicken"
"Assa! Hey, you're not Ne-Ne chicken!"
"No, but I have a special delivery for you. It's a can. Know what's in it? Whoop-ass."
*cue terminator fight scene music* |
I'm actually tempted to think that this may not be an April fools joke (but it probably is)
Reason: Google has made a homepage for starbucks wifi that also requires users to enter their alien reg before they can gain access; so it's logical that they would set this system up for other areas (but this is still an April fools joke.) |
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