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ChinaBoy
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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| Kea Joenee wrote: |
first off, OP, don't say "that's gay" when you mean stupid or unfair. What if people used a slur like the n-word to describe situations they don't like.
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People do use slur words to describe situations they don't like. But thank you for being the PC police and telling other sentient beings how to speak. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Does this even merit its own thread? I think the solution is pretty obvious: Don't get sick. Problem solved. It's clear to see your school just looking out for your health by making the prospect of being seriously ill unattractive to you. |
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wesharris
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Kea Joenee wrote: |
first off, OP, don't say "that's gay" when you mean stupid or unfair. What if people used a slur like the n-word to describe situations they don't like.
Anyway, they won't fire you over this. Just don't show up. Call at least, say you're sick, then hang up. You're going to get a spectrum of work situations. My old gig was so so nice, a real rarity. They just sent me home early on the only sick day I took.
On the other hand, my new boss is a self-appointed physician who also demands not just a visit receipt but the doctor's diagnosis right in the contract. |
Dude that is like SOOOOOO Gay.
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ardis
Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| My school has been really sympathetic whenever I'm sick. It's happened a handful of times in the past two years, and they always quickly tell me, "Please, don't worry about--we'll be fine. Just get some rest or go to the hospital." Usually, they also offer to bring medicine over to my apartment. When I come back to school, they do the typical, "Oh, you look so terrible!!! Are you still feeling bad??" |
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harlowethrombey
Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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I got a new office with a coach. When I'm feeling sickly I plop down on it, pull my blanket up and put on 'The Office' on my computer.
I could call in from home, but, for some reason, just showing up at school when sick/deathly hungover seems to garner respect here. I dunno.
The only day I'm taking off is to pick up my friend at the airport (and we have mid-terms that day anyway).
Of course this is just me. If you're really sick you should stay at home/go to the hospital and dont feel guilty about it.
Give your hospital receipt to a female co-teacher you trust and explain to her that you are not preggers. Maybe she can communicate this, and you idea to keep the whole thing from becoming a rumor.
Good luck with it. |
i tried dragging myself in to work one time, thinking the teachers would just let me rest or send me home (i had a cold and had lost my voice). instead i taught every class that day through a series of squeaks and gestures. the only thing one of my co-teachers did was let me finish class 10 minutes early. lesson learnt, never again! |
Yeah, from what I hear from others, I think I have a pretty lenient school. |
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Countrygirl
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
Location: in the classroom
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| Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: You have to come to the school first when you are sick.. |
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| nicam wrote: |
then you may go out.
That's what my coteacher told me this morning (in addition to asking 20 stupid questions, which are so obviously not out of concern for my health) when I called her from the hospital. Then she tells me I have to bring her a receipt. Is any of this standard? I commute an hour to school each way, and the bus ride is windy enough to make a well person puke from motion sickness. WTF?
Also, I was having really scary symptoms that were identical to ovarian cyst symptoms, which turned out to be an adverse reaction to birth control, so of course the doctor gave me an ultrasound, which is all that it says on the receipt. I can't wait to see their reaction to this. It would be one thing if they understood English, and I could explain to them that I am not pregnant, etc., etc., but they don't. Haha, they are just going to see that I had an ultrasound.
I know you should choose your battles wisely in Korea, and I don't want to cause any bad blood, but I don't want to have to show them my personal health records or have to commute an hour to school when I'm sick in order to be dismissed and then commute an hour back home. That's gay.
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I would give them the receipt but I wouldn't come in. I'd send a message saying that I tried to come in but I couldn't.
There are lots of physical reasons to get an ultrasound. If they ask you if you are pregnant, which I doubt, I would act insulted and say "Of course not! How could I be?" Don't even try to explain it because things could get lost in translation. Just say you had lots of pain and the doctor wanted to check everything. Don't even mention that it was due to the pill.
Act like a Korean...if they ask you something you don't want to answer, smile and don't answer. But if you choose to not give the receipt, it might seem like you are hiding something. Of course, it is your right to not hand it in. But if you don't want to hand it in, I would just keep forgetting to bring it in rather than saying you don't want to.
And, no, I don't think coming in and going home is standard. I've never heard of a Korean teacher doing this. One teacher didn't even call in sick...we had to call her to find out that she wasn't coming in. Of course, the VP found a way to get back at her later on. But if you are a good teacher, a few sick days shouldn't cause bad blood with a good school. |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Contracts are different. SMOE contracts state medical proof is required after 5 consecutive days of being absent. You are also expected to contact the school so they know you won't be in. |
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nicam
Joined: 14 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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First off Kea Joenee, DO NOT EVER tell me how to speak! I don't need some uppity, callow, idealistic, bore patronizing me. I love slurs, and use them ironically among my gay friends, my black friends, my female friends, etc., all the time, and they ALL have a sense of humor enough to enjoy them as well. So, dont' worry about me, Kea Joenee, I don't associate with humorless people.
Thanks for the responses everyone. Turns out my co-teacher either didn't understand the severity of my medical condition due to the obvious language barrier, or she simply told the principal I had a cold as it would have been awkward to tell him the truth, so he asked her to inform me of my need to come to school first, which she complied with, blah, blah, blah. I don't really know, but it seems like you could tell Koreans you have Ebola and it would automatically be translated into a cold by that mechanism in the Korean mind that translates all foreigner's illnesses into colds.
Anyway, she kind of apologized, and told me I could "go out", but now I feel like a di*k after all the fuss and am just sitting here until the end of exam day, which I really don't really need to be here for.
I also made it clear to everyone that I come to work with a cold, and if I don't come to work that means it's friggin serious, and I'm not coming into school to get anyone's permission, or approval based on some irrational suspicion of foreigners. Nah. |
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