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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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 Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:23 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
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| So, I remember when IGTG was lambasted for spamming the boards. I don't remember if Gopher was one of the attackers, but his recent round of spamming... |
I do not accept this attempted comparison at all. Not to mention your comparing me to someone who was likely mentally ill (perhaps that is the point of your comparison; if so, ironic on a thread where another poster is complaining about name-calling; rich coming as it does from a guy who calls R. Nixon a Socialist. Sometimes this forum seems well balanced. At others it seems like a kindergarten playground, a madhouse, or a zoo).
IGTG spammed seven to ten threads at a time with the same story. IGTG chronically displayed malice towards Jews, Holocaust-denial, other offensive tendencies -- in messages that appeared again, again, and again here.
Moreover, at least half a dozen regular posters here complained, including at the time, Bulsajo, MannerofSpeaking, Ya-ta Boy, and, as you suspect, myself.
I think your comparison is a crude pretext designed to bring back conspiracy-theory spamming. You want to do that for two banana threads -- on point to ridicule a discussion where people where claiming "banana republic's" universal applicability? Be my guest. |
Although IGTG was annoying at times, I found IGTG to be generally amusing and sometimes interesting.
The "gopher" character we see here is generally interesting and sometimes amusing.
The recent "banana spamming" has been quite entertaining.
Too many people take themselves too seriously around here. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Finally, before you and others repeat the charge so often that it becomes unquestioned truth: I did not spam anything. I created two banana-republic threads to ridicule other posters' complete lack of understanding of the term, in order to show how it is based on others' -- namely politicians, speaking hyperbolically -- complete lack of understanding of the term.
"Spamming," I believe refers to internet advertising or, in this forum's case, given a concrete and repeated example from IGTG's experience, hitting the messageboard with seven to ten copies of the same story within an approximately five-minute period. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
Finally, before you and others repeat the charge so often that it becomes unquestioned truth: I did not spam anything. I created two banana-republic threads to ridicule other posters' complete lack of understanding of the term, in order to show how it is based on others' -- namely politicians, speaking hyperbolically -- complete lack of understanding of the term.
"Spamming," I believe refers to internet advertising or, in this forum's case, given a concrete and repeated example from IGTG's experience, hitting the messageboard with seven to ten copies of the same story within an approximately five-minute period. |
At one point you had created more of these threads, had you not, on Iceland, Switzerland ...
There were more than 5 in all, which is why I started this one.
Perhaps you deleted them out of shame.
No matter. You are an amature spammer compared to IGTG. And spam doesn't suit you. You do better by presenting facts and sound arguments. IGTG needed to use spam, shock and awe. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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What? Someone called Iceland and Switzerland "banana republics?" I find that shocking and appalling. Appalling and shocking. Really. Just shocking.
Hardly surprising, Ontheway. If you look, you will find that people have called, say, any and every political entity, from the Neolithic to the present, "banana republic." This is because we, in fact, live among the Homo bananians species on a banana planet in a banana universe. Kind of like how the world looks when someone, say, calls everything "socialist."
Cheers. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Petulant names? What are you talking about? |
How about these quotes?
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=133615&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60
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Joo: you are trying to reason with a self-righteous ignoramus. Does not matter what you tell him.
Got it? |
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| Willfully obtuse, Captain. |
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| I think it reflects ignorance or willful obtusity to "ask questions" such as "what does 'banana republic' possibly have to do with Central America?" Honestly, I cannot believe that you would be asking such "questions" in good faith. |
And here you do it again. Either you are having troubles understanding my question, or you are deliberately misquoting me. I never said "what does 'banana republic' possibly have to do with Central America?" , I said : "Is someone actually proposing that the US is a Central American state?" and I did so because by the dictionary definition, a Banana Republic is usually a Central American state - but not always - thus, when Gopher included that in his definition, I questioned it. I thought that the US could be accused of being a Banana Republic without having been a Central American state.
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And before you get too deeply into brooding on your alleged victimhood, ask yourself if you have not called me, on this very thread, "an egoist" intent on "making this section of the forum my own little fiefdom."
Sounds pretty serious. If we are keeping track of name-calling and holding grudges, that is... |
I did call you that, and I did so because of you previous attacks on me (as quoted above).
This section of the forum should be open to any member to come here and post according to the rules. But far too often this are is treated as a person kingdom of a select few.. and I think that the above name-calling is an example of that.
Basically Gopher (or any other long term poster in this section, I ask you - do you give other posters room to freely post their thoughts or questions here, or do you call them names if they do not fit into your mold?
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
Finally, before you and others repeat the charge so often that it becomes unquestioned truth: I did not spam anything. I created two banana-republic threads to ridicule other posters' complete lack of understanding of the term, in order to show how it is based on others' -- namely politicians, speaking hyperbolically -- complete lack of understanding of the term.
"Spamming," I believe refers to internet advertising or, in this forum's case, given a concrete and repeated example from IGTG's experience, hitting the messageboard with seven to ten copies of the same story within an approximately five-minute period. |
I think this may qualify as spam. Creating threads to ridicule is the first hint. Creating a number of threads would be the second. While I agree that a 'few' is better than 'many'... it's still spamming.
Were each other those threads created for discussion in their own right?
Also, has not the dictionary already proven you wrong about the limits of your definition?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/banana%20republic?qsrc=2888
any of the small countries in the tropics, esp. in the Western Hemisphere, whose economies are largely dependent on fruit exports, tourism, and foreign
A small country that is economically dependent on a single export commodity, such as bananas, and is typically governed by a dictator or the armed forces.
a small country (especially in Central America) that is politically unstable and whose economy is dominated by foreign companies and depends on one export (such as bananas)
None of those definitions say 'only in central america' |
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