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krissy123



Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Location: Suwon, S.Korea

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:20 pm    Post subject: Need some advice... Reply with quote

I'm working at a hagwon (on an E2 visa) and my pay is 12 days late. No one at my work has been paid. I've worked at the school for over 4 months, and every month my pay has been late. Some co-workers have quit because the boss can't be trusted, and the remaining ones have threatened to sue the boss if he doesn't pay a.s.a.p.

Whether he pays or not, I am definately ready to leave this school~ I'm sure it's only a matter of time before the school goes belly up.

Anyways, my concern is about how much notice I have to give. I'd prefer to only give a few weeks notice (as I'm pretty confident that any more work I do, I won't be paid for) but my contract says I have to give two months notice....

On the one hand, I feel like I'd be an idiot to stick around for much longer, but on the other hand, I need their cooperation with cancelling my visa (I would like to remain in Korea and teach somewhere else).

So, I suppose my questions are:

1)If I am not being paid, do I really need to give the 2 months notice? (if I go to the labour board, will leaving early have any effect on getting my money?)

2)How does cancelling my visa work in this situation? I've heard of getting an exit order, but immigration told me I need my employer there...

Thanks for any info!
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JJJ



Joined: 27 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, don't do anything until you get another job lined up. If you give him notice now, and he makes you work but doesn't pay your last wage and tries to get airfare or apartment deposit back, then you're outta luck, stuck and f#$ked. Or he flips out and kicks you outta your apartment tomorrow. And you still have no job to go to.

So, get online and start sending resumes. I learned this lesson years ago. Don't do anything rash unless you have a fallback ready to go.
Good luck.
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krissy123



Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Location: Suwon, S.Korea

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya, I have another job lined up, so that wouldn't really be a problem. I'm more worried that giving short notice will cause problems when trying to get a new visa....

I also just found out by calling the pension office that he hasn't put any money into my pension....argh!!
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krissy123



Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Location: Suwon, S.Korea

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And is paying back airfare before 6 months the law? There isn't any mention of having to do that in my contract...
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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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he hasn't put any money into my pension
I bet he hasnt paid your taxes either. He already violated terms of the contract and he is bending you over. How deep do you want him to go is the question. Get the hell out of there!! Do you work for free in your home country? Shocked
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Michelle



Joined: 18 May 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Need some advice... Reply with quote

krissy123 wrote:
I'm working at a hagwon (on an E2 visa) and my pay is 12 days late. No one at my work has been paid. I've worked at the school for over 4 months, and every month my pay has been late. Some co-workers have quit because the boss can't be trusted, and the remaining ones have threatened to sue the boss if he doesn't pay a.s.a.p.

Whether he pays or not, I am definately ready to leave this school~ I'm sure it's only a matter of time before the school goes belly up.

Anyways, my concern is about how much notice I have to give. I'd prefer to only give a few weeks notice (as I'm pretty confident that any more work I do, I won't be paid for) but my contract says I have to give two months notice....

On the one hand, I feel like I'd be an idiot to stick around for much longer, but on the other hand, I need their cooperation with cancelling my visa (I would like to remain in Korea and teach somewhere else).

So, I suppose my questions are:

1)If I am not being paid, do I really need to give the 2 months notice? (if I go to the labour board, will leaving early have any effect on getting my money?)

2)How does cancelling my visa work in this situation? I've heard of getting an exit order, but immigration told me I need my employer there...

Thanks for any info!



1)If I am not being paid, do I really need to give the 2 months notice? (if I go to the labour board, will leaving early have any effect on getting my money?)

2)How does cancelling my visa work in this situation? I've heard of getting an exit order, but immigration told me I need my employer there...



Hi,

I am sorry to hear about your situation but the longer you stay there the more you will be owed which may or may not be reclaimable don't waste time going in, they may have done this before......

You need your proof of pay and may want to go to the labour board very quickly in order to make sure they realise the reason you left. Forget the two months notice, they broke the contract first.

Visit the labour board first and maybe they can get your visa cancelled because you have not been paid. Haven't done this but in any case they are the first port of call and will be able to tell you.

I hope they are helpful.

PS. In the past a new job helped me get by and I could come back to it but once the visa is cancelled you must leave Korea. When you visit have all the details of the next job, a place to get the visa and an unpaid reservation on an air ticket. The labour board will be happy to pursue the lost money when you get back. They may hesitate stopping your visa without a plan to leave. If worst comes to worst and you can't get anywhere with the labour board you can leave the country, there will be issues working when you come back directly unless the visa is somehow cancelled. There is always coming back a tourist then going to Japan later. I don't like to think about your situation in terms of the new paperwork. Maybe labour will help you wheedle a letter of release?

Cheers,
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