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What do you think about a hof named after Rommel?
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What do you think about a hof named after Rommel?
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Harmless because Rommel was a "good" Nazi.
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Harmless because you can't expect Koreans to care about Nazis the way the west does.
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Harmless because it's just a name.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: What do you think about a hof named after Rommel? Reply with quote

There's a "Rommel Hof" in Mokpo.

http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2009/04/mokpos-rommel-hof.html
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Beeyee



Joined: 29 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet, I wanna go there.
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well considering that:

A) Rommel ran the Afrikan campaign while demanding his Germans and Italians to strictly observe the laws of war and take the best care of prisoners (and the British reciprocated)

B) Rommel ultimately was ordered to kill himself on Hitler's orders

I see no problem with a hof named after Rommel.
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rollo



Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a hof in Gimhae named Hitler. It was not one of the infamous hitler bars with the murals and pictures of Hitler. It was ran by a nice lady who wanted a German name for her bar. that was in 2003 dont know if it is still there.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ironic part is that it's a jazz bar.

I think there was also a Rommel in Daejeon.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Certain Koreans just cannot shake their weird fascination with Nazi culture. Around Ewha University in the 1990s, there was a "rock cafe (young people's disco)" named Rommel. I went there once and didn't pay much attention to the name but then I saw pictures of Nazi tanks and that freaked me out.

I also remember in Myeongdong seeing a "ppiki (street tout)" for a nightclub dressed as a Nazi officer giving out flyers. I was like, WTF!

The examples can go on and on.
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Zutronius



Joined: 16 Apr 2007
Location: Suncheon

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in Mokpo but never really go to that part of town often. Kind of surprising to see and hear about the fascination with Nazis by Koreans. I do want to see what the place is like though.
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michaelambling



Joined: 31 Dec 2008
Location: Paradise

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zutronius wrote:
I live in Mokpo but never really go to that part of town often. Kind of surprising to see and hear about the fascination with Nazis by Koreans. I do want to see what the place is like though.


Where in Mokpo is it? I haven't seen it either--is it in Hadang?
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's down the street from E-Mart, which in turn is a couple blocks from Hadang You're at the bus terminal and you walk straight---under that overpass through the park---for two blocks unitl you get to the E-Mart. Turn left and go straight about three blocks. It's on your right. You can get a map on the original post.
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michaelambling



Joined: 31 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smee wrote:
It's down the street from E-Mart, which in turn is a couple blocks from Hadang You're at the bus terminal and you walk straight---under that overpass through the park---for two blocks unitl you get to the E-Mart. Turn left and go straight about three blocks. It's on your right. You can get a map on the original post.


I think I'll stop by some time next week. I hate to patronize them, but I've got to see this for myself...
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orosee



Joined: 07 Mar 2008
Location: Hannam-dong, Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, for a moment I thought they might refer to the former mayor of Frankfurt (actually Erwin's son).

Think I have to get there before they taker it down and have my photo taken, just to piss off some people back in Germany Wink

Not sure what I'd do about another "Hitler" or perhaps a Himmler bar... an "Eichmann Hof" might also be a bit tasteless. But considering that Rommel is one of the few still popular war figures in a country that has been trying desperately to bury its Nazi past... I guess I'm okay with a Rommel here and there.

To be fair, I wouldn't expect to find bars called "Bomber Harris" in Cologne, Hamburg or Dresden (or anywhere else in Germany), but in Korea anything goes as far as its not related to local history.
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ekul



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:


I also remember in Myeongdong seeing a "ppiki (street tout)" for a nightclub dressed as a Nazi officer giving out flyers. I was like, WTF!



That's nothing, from where I come from our princes like to do that.
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Pwillig



Joined: 26 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They should've called it the Desert Fox.

I'd totally go there if they had drinks called Afrika Slammers or a Patton Smackdowns.
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michaelambling



Joined: 31 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

orosee wrote:
in Korea anything goes as far as its not related to local history.


This shows a profound lack of empathy in Korean culture.
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orosee



Joined: 07 Mar 2008
Location: Hannam-dong, Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

michaelambling wrote:
orosee wrote:
in Korea anything goes as far as its not related to local history.


This shows a profound lack of empathy in Korean culture.


Hmmm, I wouldn't quite go that far, at least not based on this example. Something that happened far away, a long time ago... I only wonder who would get such an idea, or why. Is that something you learn in Korean history books (hardly, at least Korea didn't really feature in German ones) or does it require an owner/operator who spent years in Germany?

Strange.
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