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Looney



Joined: 23 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:32 pm    Post subject: Public Afterschool jobs Reply with quote

yes I know about the shadiness/double bank book scam that goes on with some of them......any of you currently work for an afterschool that doesn't operate this kind of thing? How many classes do you teach per day?

Was offered an afterschool job for 2.4 plus housing....6 classes per day 40 mins......I asked about the double bank book thing and they said they wouldn't ask me to make a serparate bank book for them/hand over ATM card etc.
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pandemic902



Joined: 01 Aug 2006
Location: Dorim-dong, Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do an ASP and the contract is with the public school, I get paid my salary by the PS, the company pays my housing allowance, and I'm presuming the school pays any admin fees directly to the company. I get tax and pension deductions exactly the same as when I worked with the board of education last year.

I like my job Surprised
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i



Joined: 10 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work at an ASP as an F-2. Got tired of the travel and cancellations of doing privates. I do 4 50-min classes m-th and Friday is movie day. Started a month ago and I am satisfied. Got them to kick in an extra amount to get my own place. They had a studio with salary, but it was not big enough. So I got my own.
I've got to get there at 12:30. Classes start at 1:10 and last until 4:45 or 5:50, depending on the day. Longer days include an hour break.
IMHO, if you don't want to get up early or work late, the after-school program is the way to go.
Don't do drugs, have HIV, or have a criminal record in Korea, they don't really care about the rest.
As for money, nothing about cards. Just direct deposit once a month. No scams.
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Win Education seems on the up and up. I dealt with them and they seemed legit, just couldn't work out a location i wanted.
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Toon Army



Joined: 12 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkelly80 wrote:
Win Education seems on the up and up. I dealt with them and they seemed legit, just couldn't work out a location i wanted.


they are apparently one of the worst offenders in regards to the double bank book scam....if you do a search

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=1450070&highlight=#1450070
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Oreovictim



Joined: 23 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love an after school gig. I've seen a few where you go in at 12:00 teach 1:00 - 5:00 and get Fridays off. But I don't like the idea of taking a job without talking with a foreign teacher. At least before accepting a job with a hagwon, you can talk to someone.

A couple quick questions, if someone has the time. Are these programs like public school classes,30 students or more in a class, or are they more geared toward a hagwon size classroom?

Also, is it the same age as public school? 4th grade - 6th? I like teaching grades 1-4. I can handle a little of the 5th and 6th-grade crowd, but I'd hate it if the majority of my classes were with the older bunch.

Thank you, thank you.
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oni



Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do an ASP too.
I finally found a contact and have a contract directly with the school and no management company is involved Smile
I've worked for ASP management companies before and got tired of them taking such a big cut. I get a percentage of the total student fees and so does the Korean co teacher. So my pay can fluctuate depending on student numbers but luckily the numbers have stayed the same and this new school year I'm doing 5 45 minute classes compared to 4 classes before.
Class size is smaller than regular public school classes. I have 15 in my classes now but at my previous school there were more because the company makes more money if there are more students and that's all they really care about.
I get paid directly by the school. No pension or health insurance thou but I don't care about pension as I wouldn't get it back anyways.
The classes are a mix of all grades but mostly 1-4th grade the highest class is mostly 4-6th grade students.
I go to school about 20-30 minutes before class.

I don't know why anyone would want to work for WIN having to be at the school 2 hours before classes start. I know an hour is lunch break but still!!
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toon Army wrote:
jkelly80 wrote:
Win Education seems on the up and up. I dealt with them and they seemed legit, just couldn't work out a location i wanted.


they are apparently one of the worst offenders in regards to the double bank book scam....if you do a search

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=1450070&highlight=#1450070


I know three people who have done the double bank book and all of them get paid in full, if not always on time. It's not always a scam. The one guy with WIN said he didn't have a double bank book, but maybe that's just the one guy.
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Cathy OB



Joined: 01 Mar 2006
Location: Australia

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:52 pm    Post subject: What is a public afterschool job? Reply with quote

What is a public afterschool job? Is it the same as a hogwan, or what's the difference? Which is the best to work in? I looking at coming to Korea to work. Laughing Cheers
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkelly80 wrote:
Toon Army wrote:
jkelly80 wrote:
Win Education seems on the up and up. I dealt with them and they seemed legit, just couldn't work out a location i wanted.


they are apparently one of the worst offenders in regards to the double bank book scam....if you do a search

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=1450070&highlight=#1450070


I know three people who have done the double bank book and all of them get paid in full, if not always on time. It's not always a scam. The one guy with WIN said he didn't have a double bank book, but maybe that's just the one guy.



Not getting paid is not the scam. The scam is that they send all the money from the ASP to your account (the one they have the bankbook for). Then they take your pay out of that, and keep the rest for themselves.

Come tax time, you will be responsible for paying taxes on ALL of it, even though you only got to keep part of it, since the account is in your name.
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Kurtz



Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Location: ples bilong me

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cathy, an ASP is a class run in a public school, but after normal teaching hours. The content is harder than what they learn in class in normal hours. It's cheaper for parents to use an ASP than a hogwon, why I dunno.


I'd say it's easier than a hagwon, and possibly safer in terms of getting paid from my experience.

Just picked up a gig at my school once a week. Pumps up my salary by half a million/month, that's the way to go I think, public school (if good co-teacher) and an ASP. Only wish I could do it twice a week then I'd be earning quite good fold.
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkelly80 wrote:
Win Education seems on the up and up. I dealt with them and they seemed legit, just couldn't work out a location i wanted.


They also don't even TRY to hire non-white people. I'm sick of it becaus they seem to be hogging a lot of the afterschool work.
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jdog2050 wrote:
jkelly80 wrote:
Win Education seems on the up and up. I dealt with them and they seemed legit, just couldn't work out a location i wanted.


They also don't even TRY to hire non-white people. I'm sick of it becaus they seem to be hogging a lot of the afterschool work.


Damn that's shitty. Well that's why they have the internet, to get the word out on BS like that. Sorry to hear.
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:


Not getting paid is not the scam. The scam is that they send all the money from the ASP to your account (the one they have the bankbook for). Then they take your pay out of that, and keep the rest for themselves.

Come tax time, you will be responsible for paying taxes on ALL of it, even though you only got to keep part of it, since the account is in your name.


None of them have mentioned that happening (I was going to do one of these and asked my friends a ton of questions) , but it certainly seems like something they'd do here. Duly noted.
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Cathy OB



Joined: 01 Mar 2006
Location: Australia

PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:52 am    Post subject: Thanks Kurtz Reply with quote

Thanks Kurtz, sounds like a good job. Laughing
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