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ChopChaeJoe
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It should also be noted that the UN does not just deal with bringing or avoiding war.Other things such as caring for destitute children, health initiatives, communication breakthroughs, praise or condemnation for human rights and dignity need an international forum to avoid the singular notation from certain countries.
Where would Israel or East Timor be without the UN. It may be broken, but so was my arm when I was 8. I bet I could beat more than half of you in an arm wrestle now. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| ChopChaeJoe wrote: |
| Other things such as caring for destitute children, health initiatives, communication breakthroughs, praise or condemnation for human rights and dignity need an international forum to avoid the singular notation from certain countries. |
All things individual nations can do easily and do in fact do. If the US took the money it allots to the UN and instead used it directly for humanitarian aid, health initiatives, and so forth, more good would actually be done. The same is true in the case of the UN's other big donors.
Anything positive the United Nations can actually provide, nations can provide without the UN, and probably better.
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| Where would Israel or East Timor be without the UN. |
In Israel's case, just fine, at least compared to how they are in today's world. Enough individual nations would have stepped up to fill the same role the UN did in terms of "ratifying" its existence, and those same nations would assuredly have provided the a similar, sufficient level of support. In Timor's case, I don't know much about it, so I decline to comment.
Regarding your arm, that's all well and good, but the nations of the world aren't pouring billions of dollars into your arm every year, and anti-American Muslim nations aren't using your arm as a soap box to pontificate upon. When your arm proposes a resolution defending Islam from totally legitimate free-speech driven criticism, or decides not to condemn North Korea for being deliberately provocative and hostile because Russia and China have veto powers over it's stated opinions, I'll start feeling like maybe the doctor should have just amputated it. |
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Jane
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: The UN is broken |
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| Most members, led by the U.S. and Japanese ambassadors, wanted an immediate and robust condemnation of the launch in that initial statement. But the Chinese and Russian envoys are said to have resisted, with at least one member balking at a statement that would even express "concern" over the launch, according to a Western diplomat. |
China, Russia, and France needs to be booted off the permanent UN security Council. Bring in Japan, Brazil, and India to replace them. |
The only country which should be kicked out of UN is United States of America and everything will start to run normal. |
As a United States citizen, I personally would love it if the United States simply abandoned the United Nations. The United States supplies 22% of the United Nation's budget (and the only reason it doesn't provide more is because regulations prevent it), and in return all it ends up with is a platform upon which nations that oppose US interests pontificate upon.
The fact that Cyberguy seems to consider the United States ethically inferior and more worthy of blame than Russia is very interesting, though. |
The US supplies 25% of the UN budget |
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CyberGuy
Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Location: Daejeon, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:39 pm Post subject: Re: The UN is broken |
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| Fox wrote: |
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| Most members, led by the U.S. and Japanese ambassadors, wanted an immediate and robust condemnation of the launch in that initial statement. But the Chinese and Russian envoys are said to have resisted, with at least one member balking at a statement that would even express "concern" over the launch, according to a Western diplomat. |
China, Russia, and France needs to be booted off the permanent UN security Council. Bring in Japan, Brazil, and India to replace them. |
The only country which should be kicked out of UN is United States of America and everything will start to run normal. |
As a United States citizen, I personally would love it if the United States simply abandoned the United Nations. The United States supplies 22% of the United Nation's budget (and the only reason it doesn't provide more is because regulations prevent it), and in return all it ends up with is a platform upon which nations that oppose US interests pontificate upon.
The fact that Cyberguy seems to consider the United States ethically inferior and more worthy of blame than Russia is very interesting, though. |
I am not here to generalize about individuals but to talk about organized terrorism committed by the self proclaimed champions of freedom and democracy.
22% of UN budget comes from USA? Would you mind if I remind you that USA is not using its own money as it is most debited/borrowing country on the planet. Japan and China gave trillions of dollars of debit to USA. Oh yes, the same "evil and threatening" China.
Six trillion dollars of KSA have been invested in USA and its allies, and ironically KSA is portrayed as the most hated country by American media. Yup, the same hypocrite monarchy becomes totally acceptable and honorable IF you use the oil lubricant.
Secondly, why wouldn't you pay for the organization which solely works for your agenda 99% of the time and when this organization disagrees (such as when USA wanted to invade Iraq) then it does not matter much and can be shut up easily?
The point is not about UN being already a worthless organization but it is about using is as a very worthy organization if it fulfills your agenda and consider it worthless otherwise. Most of the bigoted cyber-zombies are also using the dirty card of UN in the same manner.
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The United States supplies 22% of the United Nation's budget and in return all it ends up with is a platform upon which nations that oppose US interests pontificate upon.
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In return, sometimes you might have to face minor resistance because you make UN appear as platform for rest of the world. How silly of these other countries who start to think of UN as an unbiased platform, right? Then USA and the gang immediately use their threats/bribes etc. to remind the weaker countries of about their actual worth. God Bless America. 
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The fact that Cyberguy seems to consider the United States ethically inferior and more worthy of blame than Russia is very interesting, though. |
Russia has her hands full of blood. I don't consider her a good country either, but I found Russia to be friend of friends and enemy of enemies. That is, I did not find Russia invading all the world in order to sprinkle the salt of freedom and democracy on the wounds of victims. Sure, they invaded some countries, but I wonder if they ever called it "blessing of freedom and democracy" and ever used huge pile of s**tty propaganda for it. At least not much of it in English, which is more of universal language (thanks to the colonialism by ex-gangsta AKA United Kingdom).
So here is the bottom line about USA vs. Russia: The later keeps its crap to herself or takes a dump on enemies, while the former takes a dump on every enemy and takes a dump on the friends as well (once they have been used enough and are of no use anymore; i.e. the tissue paper policy).
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:32 am Post subject: Re: The UN is broken |
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| 22% of UN budget comes from USA? Would you mind if I remind you that USA is not using its own money as it is most debited/borrowing country on the planet. |
Newsflash: debt entails having to pay back said debt, with interest. It's not a gift, and that money will certainly come out of US pockets in the end. That's why so many of us don't want to waste it on the UN, honestly.
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| Japan and China gave trillions of dollars of debit to USA. Oh yes, the same "evil and threatening" China. |
China is neither evil nor threatening, it's a valuable trading partner. It does, however, make some poor political choices, such as backing North Korea, an alliance which can gain it nothing and for which the North Korean administration isn't even particularly thankful given their philosophy of "self reliance."
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| Six trillion dollars of KSA have been invested in USA and its allies, and ironically KSA is portrayed as the most hated country by American media. |
No it isn't. Our media might take issue with them from time to time (which they should, given despite our common ties they are hardly perfect), but saying our media portrays them as the most hated country is just silly.
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| Secondly, why wouldn't you pay for the organization which solely works for your agenda 99% of the time ... |
The Iraq war and the current North Korea issue are 2 things the UN certainly hasn't capitulated on regarding US interests. Go ahead and list the 198 things the UN has "solely worked for our agenda upon" to even out those 2 and make your 99% figure true. Then I'll list another thing it spited us on, and you can provide your 99 counterpoints, and we can keep going and see who runs out first.
Or you can admit you just make rubbish up.
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| Most of the bigoted cyber-zombies are also using the dirty card of UN in the same manner. |
Given you're an immense anti-American bigot, I'm curious why you keep using the word bigot as an insult.
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How silly of these other countries who start to think of UN as an unbiased platform, right?
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Why should the US -- or any country for that matter -- fund an unbiased platform? That goes double when Muslim nations certainly aren't stepping up to do it. While the US provides 22% of the UNs funds, there isn't a single Muslim nation that provides even 2%. In fact, the entire Muslim world combined provides less funding for the UN than the US. They certainly don't seem to have much interest in funding the existence of this unbiased political entity.
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Russia has her hands full of blood. I don't consider her a good country either, but I found Russia to be friend of friends and enemy of enemies.
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Translation: Russia and the US are both ethically blameworthy, but since Russia is more closely allied with the nations I support, I don't think they need to be kicked out of the UN, because all that matters to me is how any given country treats my country.
And hey, I can understand that. You support Russia because it's within your interests to do so. It's politically expedient. And it's exactly what you're condemning Americans for: being politically expedient in our affections or lack thereof for other countries.
Your diatribe about how the US indulges in propaganda and Russia doesn't is just a (delusional) attempt at justification for your political expediency. Anyone with any reflective capacity knows exactly what Russia is about. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: The UN is broken |
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| CyberGuy wrote: |
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| Most members, led by the U.S. and Japanese ambassadors, wanted an immediate and robust condemnation of the launch in that initial statement. But the Chinese and Russian envoys are said to have resisted, with at least one member balking at a statement that would even express "concern" over the launch, according to a Western diplomat. |
China, Russia, and France needs to be booted off the permanent UN security Council. Bring in Japan, Brazil, and India to replace them. |
The only country which should be kicked out of UN is United States of America and everything will start to run normal. |
As a United States citizen, I personally would love it if the United States simply abandoned the United Nations. The United States supplies 22% of the United Nation's budget (and the only reason it doesn't provide more is because regulations prevent it), and in return all it ends up with is a platform upon which nations that oppose US interests pontificate upon.
The fact that Cyberguy seems to consider the United States ethically inferior and more worthy of blame than Russia is very interesting, though. |
I am not here to generalize about individuals but to talk about organized terrorism committed by the self proclaimed champions of freedom and democracy.
22% of UN budget comes from USA? Would you mind if I remind you that USA is not using its own money as it is most debited/borrowing country on the planet. Japan and China gave trillions of dollars of debit to USA. Oh yes, the same "evil and threatening" China.
Six trillion dollars of KSA have been invested in USA and its allies, and ironically KSA is portrayed as the most hated country by American media. Yup, the same hypocrite monarchy becomes totally acceptable and honorable IF you use the oil lubricant.
Secondly, why wouldn't you pay for the organization which solely works for your agenda 99% of the time and when this organization disagrees (such as when USA wanted to invade Iraq) then it does not matter much and can be shut up easily?
The point is not about UN being already a worthless organization but it is about using is as a very worthy organization if it fulfills your agenda and consider it worthless otherwise. Most of the bigoted cyber-zombies are also using the dirty card of UN in the same manner.
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The United States supplies 22% of the United Nation's budget and in return all it ends up with is a platform upon which nations that oppose US interests pontificate upon.
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In return, sometimes you might have to face minor resistance because you make UN appear as platform for rest of the world. How silly of these other countries who start to think of UN as an unbiased platform, right? Then USA and the gang immediately use their threats/bribes etc. to remind the weaker countries of about their actual worth. God Bless America.
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The fact that Cyberguy seems to consider the United States ethically inferior and more worthy of blame than Russia is very interesting, though. |
Russia has her hands full of blood. I don't consider her a good country either, but I found Russia to be friend of friends and enemy of enemies. That is, I did not find Russia invading all the world in order to sprinkle the salt of freedom and democracy on the wounds of victims. Sure, they invaded some countries, but I wonder if they ever called it "blessing of freedom and democracy" and ever used huge pile of s**tty propaganda for it. At least not much of it in English, which is more of universal language (thanks to the colonialism by ex-gangsta AKA United Kingdom).
So here is the bottom line about USA vs. Russia: The later keeps its crap to herself or takes a dump on enemies, while the former takes a dump on every enemy and takes a dump on the friends as well (once they have been used enough and are of no use anymore; i.e. the tissue paper policy).
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You've shown that you absolutely have no clue and should not be talking about these issues.
Both America and Russia invaded Afghanistan. Are they both equally cupable?
While American bombs may have gone astray and hit some civilian targets, the Russians did that deliberately. On top of that, they also hid bombs in brightly painted toys and dropped them, so when some little kid picked it up, the bomb would go off.
"USA and the gang"?
"bigoted cyber-zombies"?
"takes a dump"?
Exactly how old are you? |
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CyberGuy
Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Location: Daejeon, Korea
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:38 pm Post subject: Re: The UN is broken |
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While American bombs may have gone astray and hit some civilian targets, the Russians did that deliberately. On top of that, they also hid bombs in brightly painted toys and dropped them, so when some little kid picked it up, the bomb would go off. |
At the moment it seems your under developed mind can not comprehend any point in my post. Let me help people like you again:
Russia............................................ vs................................. USA
Sitting on pile of nukes...............................................Sitting on pile of nukes and used one on Japan
invaded and massacred............................................... invaded and massacred and called it "blessing of democracy" and "favors of freedom".
Contributes to pollution................................................ Biggest Polluter in the world
Long list of war crimes....................................................... Longest list of war crimes
Cruelty at its best....................................................... Cruelty at its best
Friend of friends.......................................................... Future enemy of present friends. (stick and carrot policy; tissue paper policy)
Local policeman................................................................ Wold policman
Does not claim to be champion of Human rights........... Claims to be the only champion of human rights
Does not claim democracy and freedom.....................Supremacist bigots hailing and drooling all over to preach their version of democracy and freedom
Propaganda in Russian..........................................................96% of world media under control and huge pile of sh*tty propaganda in English, the universal language as well as dozens of other languages.
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Both America and Russia invaded Afghanistan. Are they both equally cupable? |
Cupable? How old are you? |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:03 am Post subject: Re: The UN is broken |
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| Sitting on pile of nukes...............................................Sitting on pile of nukes and used one on Japan |
True, and unfortunate.
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| invaded and massacred............................................... invaded and massacred and called it "blessing of democracy" and "favors of freedom". |
Misleading, since it implies Russian invasions aren't accompanied by propaganda while American invasions are. Both are accompanied by propaganda.
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| Contributes to pollution................................................ Biggest Polluter in the world |
Lie, China took that title from America. America is also working to rectify this problem, something untrue of Russia. I understand facts aren't something you're a big fan of, though.
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| Long list of war crimes....................................................... Longest list of war crimes |
Lie.
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Cruelty at its best....................................................... Cruelty at its best
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But killing people for being gay or speaking against Islam is kind, gentle, and a-okay. Hypocrisy.
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| Friend of friends.......................................................... Future enemy of present friends. (stick and carrot policy; tissue paper policy) |
Not future enemy, current enemy. You are a friend of Iran, and a friend of North Korea, and they are our current enemies by their own choice.
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| Local policeman................................................................ Wold policman |
True, but this is a good thing.
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| Does not claim to be champion of Human rights........... Claims to be the only champion of human rights |
I like that you consider Russia not even pretending to give lip service to human rights a point in their favor.
Also, lie, the United States doesn't deny a number of other nations champion human rights across the globe.
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| Does not claim democracy and freedom.....................Supremacist bigots hailing and drooling all over to preach their version of democracy and freedom |
Again, I like that Russia not even pretending to be in favor of democracy or freedom -- much less actually being in favor of them -- is a point in their favor in your eyes.
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Propaganda in Russian..........................................................96% of world media under control and huge pile of sh*tty propaganda in English, the universal language as well as dozens of other languages.
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The specific percentile is probably false, but in spirit this is true. People all over the world turn their eyes to American media of their own free will, while comparatively few do the same with Russian media.
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Both America and Russia invaded Afghanistan. Are they both equally cupable? |
Cupable? How old are you? |
Are you insinuating only a child would on occasion forget a single letter when quickly typing a post? Why are you such a hateful person? |
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CyberGuy
Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Location: Daejeon, Korea
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Here is Fox's typical approach:
You find some info unbelievable and you call it a lie.
You find some info irrefutable and you do ad hominem attacks.
Only an idiot will not understand the point that Russians do not have mainstream media channels as America does. Idiots run for arguments but they could hardly name any English channels by Russia. I dare you name even one English news channel by Russia. On the other hand every child on earth knows about CNN, Fox, Sky, CBN and other propaganda channels. The idiots also totally ignored while cherry picking that world's 96%~ of the media is owned by Zionists which mainly operate from USA.
Again, what was your point in asking my age? Wanted to judge me?
Also, why are you bigots astonished that I am pissed off? After I write a reasonably detailed post, some moron asks me "whats your point?". Do you people think you can simply cherry-pick whatever you find to argue and just ignore what you cant argue? and still you expect from me stay happily ever after?
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:20 am Post subject: |
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| You find some info unbelievable and you call it a lie. |
No, if I know something to be false, I call it a lie.
It's a lie that America is currently the highest polluting nation. It was until recently, now China is.
It's a lie that America has the largest list of war crimes of any nation in history.
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| You find some info irrefutable and you do ad hominem attacks. |
I agreed with you three times, that's hardly "automatically refuting to ad hominem if something is irrefutable." Further, I didn't make a single ad hominem argument in that post. I mocked your words a few times, but that's not ad hominem, it's just mockery; for it to be ad hominem, I have to assert you are wrong because of some negative feature about you, which I did not.
That said, perhaps you should stop calling people idiots, belittling them for spelling errors, and screaming about how horrible people are before you concern yourself too much with the verbal attacks of others?
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| Only an idiot will not understand the point that Russians do not have mainstream media channels as America does. Idiots run for arguments but they could hardly name any English channels by Russia. I dare you name even one English news channel by Russia. |
Their national language isn't English, unlike, for instance, America. This is something you aren't understanding. American media doesn't broadcast in English because it's the international language. English is the international language because America uses it.
What would Russia gain by broadcasting internationally in English? Comparatively few people outside Russia really care what they have to say.
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| On the other hand every child on earth knows about CNN, Fox, Sky, CBN and other propaganda channels. |
Yes, because people care about what the American media has to say. If Russia started broadcasting in English, it's doubtful their new "English news channel" would become suddenly as popular as those you listed above, and with good reason. This isn't some philosophical decision on Russia's behalf to refrain from broadcasting propaganda world-wide; Russia would love to have the level of media capability the US enjoys. They don't have it, though, because of a number of factors.
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| The idiots also totally ignored while cherry picking that world's 96%~ of the media is owned by Zionists which mainly operate from USA. |
Again a totally made up percentile, and again more bigotry, which is disasppointing.
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| Again, what was your point in asking my age? Wanted to judge me? |
I understand English isn't your first language, but come on man. I didn't ask you your age, that was you, in a quote, asking TheUrbanMyth how hold he was in a hostile attack over a spelling error.
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| Also, why are you bigots astonished that I am pissed off? |
I'm astonished you're pissed off because it perplexes me that you come here despite the fact that it pisses you off. It perplexes me that you come here to defend Islam while your behavior only serve to reinforce stereotypes about Islam many people have. It just seems like you're acting against your own best interests man.
It also still perplexes me that you use the word bigot prejoratively despite being a bigot.
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| Do you people think you can simply cherry-pick whatever you find to argue and just ignore what you cant argue? |
I agreed with three of your statements in comparing the US to Russia. I hardly consider that ignoring anything. [/b] |
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CyberGuy
Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Location: Daejeon, Korea
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| Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:20 am Post subject: Re: The UN is broken |
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| I understand English isn't your first language, but come on man. I didn't ask you your age, that was you, in a quote, asking TheUrbanMyth how hold he was in a hostile attack over a spelling error. |
Fox, do you mind reading the last line in his post:
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| Most members, led by the U.S. and Japanese ambassadors, wanted an immediate and robust condemnation of the launch in that initial statement. But the Chinese and Russian envoys are said to have resisted, with at least one member balking at a statement that would even express "concern" over the launch, according to a Western diplomat. |
China, Russia, and France needs to be booted off the permanent UN security Council. Bring in Japan, Brazil, and India to replace them. |
The only country which should be kicked out of UN is United States of America and everything will start to run normal. |
As a United States citizen, I personally would love it if the United States simply abandoned the United Nations. The United States supplies 22% of the United Nation's budget (and the only reason it doesn't provide more is because regulations prevent it), and in return all it ends up with is a platform upon which nations that oppose US interests pontificate upon.
The fact that Cyberguy seems to consider the United States ethically inferior and more worthy of blame than Russia is very interesting, though. |
I am not here to generalize about individuals but to talk about organized terrorism committed by the self proclaimed champions of freedom and democracy.
22% of UN budget comes from USA? Would you mind if I remind you that USA is not using its own money as it is most debited/borrowing country on the planet. Japan and China gave trillions of dollars of debit to USA. Oh yes, the same "evil and threatening" China.
Six trillion dollars of KSA have been invested in USA and its allies, and ironically KSA is portrayed as the most hated country by American media. Yup, the same hypocrite monarchy becomes totally acceptable and honorable IF you use the oil lubricant.
Secondly, why wouldn't you pay for the organization which solely works for your agenda 99% of the time and when this organization disagrees (such as when USA wanted to invade Iraq) then it does not matter much and can be shut up easily?
The point is not about UN being already a worthless organization but it is about using is as a very worthy organization if it fulfills your agenda and consider it worthless otherwise. Most of the bigoted cyber-zombies are also using the dirty card of UN in the same manner.
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The United States supplies 22% of the United Nation's budget and in return all it ends up with is a platform upon which nations that oppose US interests pontificate upon.
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In return, sometimes you might have to face minor resistance because you make UN appear as platform for rest of the world. How silly of these other countries who start to think of UN as an unbiased platform, right? Then USA and the gang immediately use their threats/bribes etc. to remind the weaker countries of about their actual worth. God Bless America.
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The fact that Cyberguy seems to consider the United States ethically inferior and more worthy of blame than Russia is very interesting, though. |
Russia has her hands full of blood. I don't consider her a good country either, but I found Russia to be friend of friends and enemy of enemies. That is, I did not find Russia invading all the world in order to sprinkle the salt of freedom and democracy on the wounds of victims. Sure, they invaded some countries, but I wonder if they ever called it "blessing of freedom and democracy" and ever used huge pile of s**tty propaganda for it. At least not much of it in English, which is more of universal language (thanks to the colonialism by ex-gangsta AKA United Kingdom).
So here is the bottom line about USA vs. Russia: The later keeps its crap to herself or takes a dump on enemies, while the former takes a dump on every enemy and takes a dump on the friends as well (once they have been used enough and are of no use anymore; i.e. the tissue paper policy).
CG. |
You've shown that you absolutely have no clue and should not be talking about these issues.
Both America and Russia invaded Afghanistan. Are they both equally cupable?
While American bombs may have gone astray and hit some civilian targets, the Russians did that deliberately. On top of that, they also hid bombs in brightly painted toys and dropped them, so when some little kid picked it up, the bomb would go off.
"USA and the gang"?
"bigoted cyber-zombies"?
"takes a dump"?
Exactly how old are you? |
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CyberGuy
Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Location: Daejeon, Korea
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It's a lie that America is currently the highest polluting nation. It was until recently, now China is.
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http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/env_pol_car_dio_per_cap-pollution-carbon-dioxide-per-capita
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/env_pol_mun_was_per_cap-pollution-municipal-waste-per-capita
OK, even if we agree china is #1, then it makes USA #2 or even #3? wow what an appex of humanity. Clap everybody !
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It's a lie that America has the largest list of war crimes of any nation in history.
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>>Long list of war crimes....................................................... Longest list of war crimes
Where did I say "any nations HISTORY"?
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That said, perhaps you should stop calling people idiots, belittling them for spelling errors, and screaming about how horrible people are before you concern yourself too much with the verbal attacks of others?
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I guess some people do not get the elemental understanding that insulting our Prophet is worse than insulting our parents. As far as I remember, I did no call anybody bad names with reference to his/her parents. But yes, I did call people stupid or idiot directed to the people I was arguing, and I guess you guys can do that same with me 100 times. I won't mind if people think i am retard or idiot but would mind if somebody calls bad names for my parents or God or our Prophets. Is that so complex to understand?
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Their national language isn't English, unlike, for instance, America. This is something you aren't understanding.
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OK, sorry about that.
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What would Russia gain by broadcasting internationally in English? Comparatively few people outside Russia really care what they have to say.
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The fact of the time is Russia does not have English means to do as much propaganda as USA. Now why is that? thats a separate question I did not ask. The question is, currently America is spreading more s**t in to the world; be it due to world knowing English or Russia not knowing English.
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Russia would love to have the level of media capability the US enjoys. They don't have it, though, because of a number of factors.
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Hmm, the level of media capability US enjoys? That was my point you are reapeating after me. That's actually what I said, i.e. since America enjoys more universal media (in English) so they got more freedom to spread their bulls**t to the world which Russia CAN NOT ENJOY, EVEN THEY LOVE TO.
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I'm astonished you're pissed off because it perplexes me that you come here despite the fact that it pisses you off....
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When I say I am pissed off then it does not mean I am pissed off on every living thing on eslcafe. Annoyance about people is a subjective issue. It has a general level such as saying: People, would you care?
Or addressing a bunch of extreme elements from the group of people.
In other words, when I say i am annoyed, then it is not only becuase of your arguments in a specific post.
Again, it is ok with me if you do not believe in God, but if you spit venom by using insulting terms about God and Prophets just to annoy people then you should expect them annoyed.
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Sitting on pile of nukes and used one on Japan |
This is something of a cheapshot. That was 64 years ago. I don't know of anyone on this board who was even alive at that time. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| I understand English isn't your first language, but come on man. I didn't ask you your age, that was you, in a quote, asking TheUrbanMyth how hold he was in a hostile attack over a spelling error. |
Fox, do you mind reading the last line in his post:
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Cyberguy, do you mind telling me exactly what that has to do with me? You asked in a post directed at me why I asked you how old you were, something I at no point asked you. Either you misread my post, or you suddenly started speaking to someone else in the middle of a post clearly directed at me without any written indication you were doing so. Either is somewhat incoherent. |
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