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Al Franken's Senate Bid...
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khyber



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Should the Right really make an issue of Franken, won't they risk offending Minnesotans and push moderates away?
If they haven't figured out that that kind of media attention doesn't work, I implore them to continue!
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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So is it over yet? Are the Republicans still dancing at the thought of Franken losing?

I guess that didn't work out very, well did it?
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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Milwaukiedave wrote:
So is it over yet?


Well we may finally have an answer tomorrow with the final ruling coming later in the week (pending Coleman's appeal to the Minnesota Supreme Court)....

Senate recount down to 387 ballots - and almost certain appeal
As the three-judge panel nears a decision, both sides are preparing for the next step.

By PATRICIA LOPEZ , Star Tribune

Last update: April 6, 2009 - 9:23 PM

The longest, costliest U.S. Senate race in Minnesota history has come down to a decisive pile of under 400 absentee ballots that will be opened and counted today in yet another attempt to determine a winner in the case of Norm Coleman vs. Al Franken, Supreme Court File No. A09-65.

A mere 225 votes separate the two contestants, with DFLer Franken clinging to a lead that has been as stubborn as it is narrow.

Now, the last few hundred ballots have been couriered from all corners of the state to Room 300 in the state's Judicial Building in St. Paul, and at 9:30 a.m. sharp, state Elections Director Gary Poser will once again begin the process of counting under the watchful eyes of the three judges who have been hearing the election trial and who could issue a final ruling within days.

But few expect the decision to end a race that has left Minnesota as the only state in the nation with a single senator serving it at one of the most critical junctures in recent history.

Sitting tieless on an oak bench in front of the courtroom Monday afternoon, Coleman attorney Ben Ginsberg ruminated on the path ahead.

"I would expect either side would appeal the decision to the Minnesota Supreme Court," said Ginsberg, who earned his chops on the nation's most celebrated recount, Bush vs. Gore in 2000. A decision by the three-judge panel in mid-February to more strictly define which ballots could be counted changed the outcome of the Senate race, Ginsberg said. "It helped the Franken campaign, hurt the Coleman campaign and disenfranchised thousands of Minnesotans."

In an e-mail to Franken supporters, lead Franken recount attorney Marc Elias said that "although Coleman is likely to appeal in the hopes of finding a venue less picky about the rule of law, our analysis shows that the meticulousness of the court's procedure and ruling would make such an appeal a difficult proposition."

But Gov. Tim Pawlenty was quick to caution against jumping to any conclusions about the former senator's fate.

In an interview with MSNBC on Monday, Pawlenty told a reporter that "you shouldn't assume that Norm Coleman is going to lose the appeal. He has legitimate issues raised." Pawlenty speculated that an appeal could take "a month or two to decide." Even then, he said, "the federal process is available."

Ballots driven in

The last of the 400 ballots ordered by the judicial panel arrived in the secretary of state's office on Monday afternoon, with five driven up and hand-delivered by the Freeborn County auditor. Judges spent the day poring over the unopened ballots, reviewing the outside envelopes for possible irregularities and making final determinations on how many of them will be opened today.

Deputy Secretary of State Jim Gelbmann said Monday that 13 of the 400 ballots on the judges' list had already been counted, on Election Day or during the recount, putting the number of ballots that might be added at 387.

Once opened, outside envelopes -- which contain voters' names -- will be separated from the security envelopes that contain the original ballots, said Secretary of State Mark Ritchie. Poser will then sort the ballots into three piles -- Franken, Coleman and other.

By noon, judges should have an actual count and add the numbers to the candidates' tallies. But a decision in the trial probably won't be issued until later this week because the judges will review other pending issues in the case before making a ruling, Ritchie said.

Ritchie said that while he is eager for the contest to end, he actually hopes the judges' ruling is appealed.

The court case that has engrossed Minnesota and become national polticos' favorite daytime drama needs the kind of closure and sweep that only a state Supreme Court decision can provide, Ritchie said.

The three-judge panel has been "incredibly careful and devoted to detail," he said. "But their charge has been to drill way, way down. The [Minnesota] Supreme Court can take more of an overview and set a precedent for how future recounts will be handled. It's been a long process and it's nearing an end, but we need a final summation of all this so we can put it behind us."

Coleman himself left little doubt on Monday that he considers the fight to retain his seat far from over.

While Coleman has not talked to local reporters lately, he told conservative talk show host Sean Hannity that "we got more votes on Election Night, when all votes are counted fairly." Now, he said, "those votes have to be counted using the same standard and we believe the Supreme Court of Minnesota will ultimately make that judgment but it will be made and we will prevail. I want to make that very clear."

The candidates will have 10 days to file an appeal once the judicial panel makes its ruling.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/senate/42532012.html?elr=KArks8c7PaP3E77K_3c::D3aDhUec7PaP3E77K_0c::D3aDhUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr
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ChopChaeJoe



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My fear is that Franken becomes another pol hack in office.
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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With more ballots counted, Franken extends lead
By PAT DOYLE and KEVIN DUCHSCHERE, Star Tribune

Last update: April 7, 2009 - 4:25 PM

Republican Norm Coleman's dim prospects for winning the U.S. Senate trial darkened today as several hundred disputed absentee ballots were finally counted and split strongly for his DFL opponent, Al Franken.

Minutes after the ballots were opened for the first time, state elections director Gary Poser counted them, reading off the votes one by one to a hushed courtroom. When he was done, Franken's lead had grown from 225 to 312 votes.

Coleman's case during the trial has rested mostly on counting absentee ballots that he contends had been wrongly rejected. Barring an unexpected court ruling, he now lacks the ballots needed for a trial victory, and his lawyers repeated vows to appeal an adverse final verdict.

Franken's side hailed the day's developments. "The result confirms what we knew going in, which is that more Minnesotans voted for Al Franken than Norm Coleman," said lawyer Marc Elias. "That was the case when we recounted the ballots the first time, and it's now the case after the election contest."

The three-judge panel overseeing the contest, or trial, could issue a final decision any day. Coleman would have 10 days to appeal an adverse decision to the state Supreme Court.

Elias brushed aside that prospect. "I don't think there is much of a case on appeal at all," he said.

In all, 351 absentee ballots that had previously been rejected were opened today. They were on a list of 400 that the judges had considered opening before discarding some because they lacked documentation or had been counted previously.

Franken won 198 of the 351 ballots, Coleman got 111 and Independence Party candidate Dean Barkley or other candidates received the remaining 42.

The ballots, which local officials delivered to the Secretary of State, were brought under tight security into the Supreme Court room of the Minnesota Judicial Center in St. Paul. State troopers watched the entrance to the courtroom, and people wishing to enter were screened.

As Poser prepared to separate the ballots from their return envelopes, Coleman lawyer Tony Trimble asked for a recess to review the list.

District Judge Elizabeth Hayden, who spoke for the panel, refused. "We're prepared to proceed and we will do that at this time," she said.

Maintaining anonymity

Hayden stressed at the outset the importance of keeping secret the way people voted.

So state officials sat down at two tables in front of the Supreme Court bench and separated secrecy envelopes containing the ballots from return envelopes signed by the voters.

Officials then opened the secrecy envelopes and removed the ballots, placing them in piles on the tables. Sitting in the crowded spectator section, Secretary of State Mark Ritchie leaned forward and watched intently.

Before discarding the secrecy envelopes, Poser double-checked to make sure officials hadn't overlooked any ballots inside.

Then Poser, flanked by Trimble and Elias, went ballot by ballot through the pile, sorting them into separate piles after calling out for whom they were cast.

"Franken, Coleman, Franken," he read aloud.

Trimble and Elias watched carefully, alert for anything on a ballot that cast doubt on the intent of the voter. They didn't challenge any ballots.

The process was reminiscent of the tallying of 933 previously rejected absentee ballots in January during the recount. Those ballots also broke decisively for Franken and helped him achieve the 225-vote lead that he held going into the trial.

After reading the latest absentee ballot breakdown, Poser handed the results to the panel. "I believe this concludes the procedures," Hayden said.

But minutes later outside the courtroom, there was no indication that Coleman's challenge would end any time soon.

Legal spokesman Ben Ginsberg said the judges erred in permitting only 351 rejected absentee ballots to be counted.

"It should have been about 10 times more than that," he said. "We will be appealing this to the Minnesota Supreme Court."

Coleman has claimed that some counties rejected ballots similar to ones that other counties accepted, violating constitutional guarantees of equal protection and due process.

He also complained that the panel excluded thousands of absentee ballots that met the same criteria as those accepted on Election Day and during the recount.

Ginsberg said that if the panel had approved the 4,800 absentee ballots that Coleman sought to count, the candidate would have picked up far more votes during the trial. Ginsberg claimed the 351 were likely from precincts that leaned Democratic.

The final group was winnowed from lists selected by the candidates. During the trial each candidate put forth lists of ballots that came from areas that generally favored them during the November election.

The panel's final ruling, which could come this week or next, is expected to include an order on Coleman's claims that some Minneapolis ballots were counted twice and others lost, with decisions that netted Franken as many as 100 votes. But Elias said that those issues "can't mathematically effect the outcome."

As for the prospects of a Coleman appeal, Elias said, "The problem former Senator Coleman has is he lost fair and square. No amount of lawyering or sophisticated legal arguments is going to change that."

An appeal would likely stretch into May and further delay the seating of a U.S. senator from Minnesota. The state Supreme Court ruled that the losing candidate must exhaust all state court appeals before an election certificate can be issued by the governor and Secretary of State.


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