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seirogan
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Wow, that was good , thanks. I don't know how I never heard that song before. Here's a professional singing it with the words added. It's actually a pretty depressing song, which is surprising considering how uplifting it sounds. Oh wait, it's from Les Miserables. No wonder!!!
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Katchafire

Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Location: Non curo. Si metrum non habet, non est poema
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Loved it! Tis always great to see first impressions blown out of the water!Thanks for posting that.
(Now I've got to go and dry my eyes before class starts.) |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Katchafire

Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Location: Non curo. Si metrum non habet, non est poema
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Yes thats right. Same story with him. That would be who the judges were referring to when they said it had been 3 years since someone on the show had surprised them in the same way.
Good stuff. Nothing like a bit of 'heart warming' to wake me up in the morning.  |
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espoir

Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Incheon, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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If the saying "Don't judge a book by its cover" ever needed an example to illustrate its significance Paul potts and Susan Boyle are it. That was absolutely breathtaking. |
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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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The beautiful thing about Susan Boyle is that she KNEW she was going to go out there and kick arse - even though she has lived in a Scottish mining village all her life and she has no general confidence - she knew what she had and she went out there - this will change her life and you know - I don't like these shows in general - but it is moments like these (as with Paul Potts - though with him - his audition was amazing - it was his following show in New York that brought a tear to my eye)
For a bit of light comedy - try watching Stavros Flatley - my God - I just laughed like an idiot here in the staffroom!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gHvATmUsSg&feature=related |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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That was class. Pure class. |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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falco

Joined: 26 Nov 2005
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Bloody hell....when I saw this I was close to tears. And many of the audience and judges were too. Funny how someone just singing could create that kind of emotion. I guess theres singing, (99 % of vocalized music) and then theres "singing"(the 1% of singers who somehow manage to convey feeling or emotion to their audience).
As another poster wrote, these shows are usually pretty naff and I hardly ever watch 'em myself but every now and then a gem comes along and Susan Boyle is one of them. I dont think we've heard the last of her.
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Great voice. He looks like the dude from Office Space. |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Just spotted this article about it:
It wasn't singer Susan Boyle who was ugly on Britain's Got Talent so much as our reaction to her
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Is Susan Boyle ugly? Or are we? On Saturday night she stood on the stage in Britain's Got Talent; small and rather chubby, with a squashed face, unruly teeth and unkempt hair. She wore a gold lace dress, which made her look like a piece of pork sitting on a doily. Interviewed by Ant and Dec beforehand, she told them that she is unemployed, single, lives with a cat called Pebbles and has never been kissed. Susan then walked out to chatter, giggling, and a long and unpleasant wolf whistle.
Why are we so shocked when "ugly" women can do things, rather than sitting at home weeping and wishing they were somebody else? Men are allowed to be ugly and talented. Alan Sugar looks like a burst bag of flour. Gordon Ramsay has a dried-up riverbed for a face. Justin Lee Collins looks like Cousin It from The Addams Family. Graham Norton is a baboon in mascara. I could go on. But a woman has to have the bright, empty beauty of a toy - or get off the screen. We don't want to look at you. Except on the news, where you can weep because some awful personal tragedy has befallen you.
Simon Cowell, now buffed to the sheen of an ornamental pebble, asked this strange creature, this alien, how old she was. "I'm nearly 47," she said. Simon rolled his eyes until they threatened to roll out of his head, down the aisle and out into street. "But that's only one side of me," Susan added, and wiggled her hips. The camera cut to the other male judge, Piers Morgan, who winced. Didn't Susan know she was not supposed to be sexual? The audience's reaction was equally disgusting. They giggled with embarrassment, and when Susan said she wanted to be a professional singer, the camera spun to a young girl, who seemed to be at least half mascara.
She gave an "As if!" squeak and smirked. Amanda Holden, the female judge, a woman with improbably raised eyebrows and snail trails of Botox over her perfectly smooth face, chose neutrality. And then Susan sang. She stood with her feet apart, like a Scottish Edith Piaf, and very slowly began to sing Les Miserables' I Dreamed A Dream. It was wonderful.
The judges were astonished. They gasped, they gaped, they clapped. They looked almost ashamed. I was briefly worried that Simon might stab himself with a pencil, and mutter, "Et tu, Piers, for we have wronged Susan in thinking that because she is a munter, she is entirely useless." How could they have misjudged her, they gesticulated. But how could they not? No makeup? Bad teeth? Funny hair? Is she insane, this sad little Scottish spinster, beloved only of Pebbles the Cat?
When Susan had finished singing, and Piers had finished gasping, he said this. It was a comment of incredible spite. "When you stood there with that cheeky grin and said, 'I want to be like Elaine Paige', everyone was laughing at you. No one is laughing now." And it was over to Amanda Holden, a woman most notable for playing a psychotic hairdresser in the Manchester hair-extensions saga Cutting It. "I am so thrilled," said Amanda, "because I know that everybody was against you." "Everybody was against you," she said, as if Susan might have been hanged for her presumption. Why? Can't "ugly" people dream, you flat-packed, hair-ironed, over-plucked monstrous fool?
I know what you will say. You will say that Paul Potts, the fat opera singer with the equally squashed face who won Britain's Got Talent in 2007, had just as hard a time at his first audition. I looked it up on YouTube. He did not. "I wasn't expecting that," said Simon to Paul. "Neither was I," said Amanda. "You have an incredible voice," said Piers. And that was it. No laughter, or invitations to paranoia, or mocking wolf-whistles, or smirking, or derision.
We see this all the time in popular culture. Do you ever stare at the TV and wonder where the next generation of Judi Denchs and Juliet Stevensons have gone? Have they fallen down a Rada wormhole? Yes. They're not there, because they aren't pretty enough to get airtime. This lust for homogeneity in female beauty means that when someone who doesn't resemble a diagram in a plastic surgeon's office steps up to the microphone, people fall about and treat us to despicable sub-John Gielgud gestures of amazement.
Susan will probably win Britain's Got Talent. She will be the little munter that could sing, served up for the British public every Saturday night. Look! It's "ugly"! It sings! And I know that we think that this will make us better people. But Susan Boyle will be the freakish exception that makes the rule. By raising this Susan up, we will forgive ourselves for grinding every other Susan into the dust. It will be a very partial and poisoned redemption. Because Britain's Got Malice. Sing, Susan, sing - to an ugly crowd that doesn't deserve you. |
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Koveras
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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^Please, the same thing happened to Paul Potts, a man. My analysis is much more accurate.
I think much of the emotional effect comes from the sheer spectacle of someone who seems so mediocre displaying a hidden talent. People love that because they think of themselves in the same way, as someone who seems mediocre but is secretly quite special. So when a person comes along who really is a diamond in the rough, to them it sort of proves by proxy that every mediocre person is special. |
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Jae_Sun_Kr
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:13 am Post subject: |
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Same crap as the opera guy. Once was enough. Boring !!! |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:24 am Post subject: |
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Jae_Sun_Kr wrote: |
Same crap as the opera guy. Once was enough. Boring !!! |
Actually, it took me several viewings to get bored. I even showed it to several people who all were touched by it as well.
Still, I have to say, after comparing it to some of the other singers who did it, including the one I posted earlier, Susan Boyle's rendition is average at best. Now of course this in no way diminishes the heart-warming story, but in a funny twist, if she was a looker, I doubt we would even be discussing her. Because it's not really her voice we are discussing.
Ya know, I wouldn't even put it past Simon Cowell to have sought her out and planted her after he saw how big Paul Potts got. He ain't no fool when it comes to getting attention. |
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