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The Amero - for real this time?

 
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: The Amero - for real this time? Reply with quote

This is from the Wall Street Journal! Now I'm scared.

TODD HARRISON
How realistic is a North American currency?

Commentary: Uniting U.S., Canada, Mexico money could result from crisis

Last update: 6:12 a.m. EST Jan. 28, 2009

"World, hold on. Instead of messing with our future, open up inside." -- Bob Sinclair

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Thomas Jefferson once said: "When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on." As the global financial system pushes on a string, investors are desperately trying to hold tight.

The New World Order is upon us, full of hope, promise and a fair amount of fear. In our recent discussion regarding the direction of our country, we noted the risks of catering to conventional wisdom and the implications for the U.S. dollar. See MarketWatch column on New World Order.

The Minyanville mantra is to provide financial news you need to know before you know you need it. That's a fine line to walk, as foresight often flies in the face of mainstream acceptance.

In 2006, it seemed counterintuitive to forecast a "prolonged socioeconomic malaise entirely more depressing than a recession." See Minyanville column.

For years, the notion of an "invisible hand" was conspiracy theory until we learned that the Working Group on Financial Markets was a central policy tool. See Minyanville column.

And now, as we gaze across our historically significant horizon, we must open our minds to thoughts and ideas that may seem foreign to folks conditioned by the past and stunned by the present.

Currency crossroads

As governments take on more risk -- as they price assets on behalf of the market and transfer debt from private to public -- the common denominator, or release valve, becomes the currency.

If our economic condition is allowed to take medicine in the form of debt destruction, the greenback will appreciate, and asset classes as a whole will deflate. If we continue to inject drugs that mask symptoms rather than address the disease, the likelihood of a seismic readjustment increases in kind.

The deflationary forces in the marketplace are pervasive, and the "other side" of our current equation, hyperinflation, may be years away. Given the magnitude, breadth and pace of the global financial epidemic, however, we must explore each side of the twisted ride.

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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, put the Canadian and Mexican currencies under the control of the Federal Reserve of Goldman Sachs? Hell No.

It is interesting that this American thinks that a crises caused by American institutions (Fed) would cause Canucks and Mexicans to accept that institution controlling our financial lives. This is the logic of a statist. Government causes a huge financial crises so ergo more of that exact same type of government to fix the crisIs.

Canadians will flip the fu.ck out if such a scheme is attempted. It will never happen. Never, ever. Never.

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If our economic condition is allowed to take medicine in the form of debt destruction, the greenback will appreciate, and asset classes as a whole will deflate. If we continue to inject drugs that mask symptoms rather than address the disease, the likelihood of a seismic readjustment increases in kind.

This "disease" is the medicine to fix the problem. As long as we are trying to put it off, recovery will not happen. Ask Japan how long it can last.
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
So, put the Canadian and Mexican currencies under the control of the Federal Reserve of Goldman Sachs? Hell No.

It is interesting that this American thinks that a crises caused by American institutions (Fed) would cause Canucks and Mexicans to accept that institution controlling our financial lives. This is the logic of a statist. Government causes a huge financial crises so ergo more of that exact same type of government to fix the crisIs.

Canadians will flip the fu.ck out if such a scheme is attempted. It will never happen. Never, ever. Never.

From the article:
Quote:
If our economic condition is allowed to take medicine in the form of debt destruction, the greenback will appreciate, and asset classes as a whole will deflate. If we continue to inject drugs that mask symptoms rather than address the disease, the likelihood of a seismic readjustment increases in kind.

This "disease" is the medicine to fix the problem. As long as we are trying to put it off, recovery will not happen. Ask Japan how long it can last.

Maybe you're right about the WSJ just being a worthless rag these days.
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
mises wrote:
So, put the Canadian and Mexican currencies under the control of the Federal Reserve of Goldman Sachs? Hell No.

It is interesting that this American thinks that a crises caused by American institutions (Fed) would cause Canucks and Mexicans to accept that institution controlling our financial lives. This is the logic of a statist. Government causes a huge financial crises so ergo more of that exact same type of government to fix the crisIs.

Canadians will flip the fu.ck out if such a scheme is attempted. It will never happen. Never, ever. Never.

From the article:
Quote:
If our economic condition is allowed to take medicine in the form of debt destruction, the greenback will appreciate, and asset classes as a whole will deflate. If we continue to inject drugs that mask symptoms rather than address the disease, the likelihood of a seismic readjustment increases in kind.

This "disease" is the medicine to fix the problem. As long as we are trying to put it off, recovery will not happen. Ask Japan how long it can last.

Maybe you're right about the WSJ just being a worthless rag these days.


I could be wrong about every opinion I have, except that.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is anyone serious in any of the three governments concerned talking about this, or is it just fear-mongering by some columnist?
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is anyone serious in any of the three governments concerned talking about this, or is it just fear-mongering by some columnist?
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RJjr



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Turning on a Lamp

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
So, put the Canadian and Mexican currencies under the control of the Federal Reserve of Goldman Sachs? Hell No.

It is interesting that this American thinks that a crises caused by American institutions (Fed) would cause Canucks and Mexicans to accept that institution controlling our financial lives. This is the logic of a statist. Government causes a huge financial crises so ergo more of that exact same type of government to fix the crisIs.

Canadians will flip the fu.ck out if such a scheme is attempted. It will never happen. Never, ever. Never.


Relax, Mises. The Federal Reserve and Goldman Sachs are run by Jews, not Muslims. Wink

So it's time for you to put your money where your mouth is and accept the Amero. Laughing
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