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Visa cancelled...letter of release...exit order?

 
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zimmerman



Joined: 02 Jul 2008
Location: New York

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:07 pm    Post subject: Visa cancelled...letter of release...exit order? Reply with quote

Hi

I have a few questions about getting a new job now that my visa has been canceled. After all the problems I went through I finally got my Visa canceled, didn't have to sign any of the schools documents and got paid.

But now I'm concerned about where I stand. I was told by my former boss, who went to immigration with me (immigration official didn't speak English) that I had two weeks to get a public school job or go back to America and reapply, then I can come back and get a private job. She said everything was fine and I wasn't in any sort of trouble, and it wouldn't be a problem.

But now I'm hearing about an exit order. Is it an official document I was supposed to get? I didn't get anything but my visa back that says canceled, has the cancellation date on it and something in Korean. So I can't even see anything that says the 28th, which is supposed to be the date I must leave the country.

Also I'm concerned about the letter of release. Do I get it from the school and use it when I apply for my next visa, after I find another job?

And when she said, "Go back to America" did she really just mean leave the country? Could I go to Japan for a visa run without having go to all the way back home? I don't know if this being my first visa would mean having to go back home and interview all over again.

I have all the documents to get a new visa, CBC, transcripts, original degree. Could I get this letter of release, find another job, and just make a visa run to Japan?
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stuck



Joined: 26 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that the visa has been cancelled you don't need a letter of release for your new job. You will be starting the visa process from scratch.

The exit order is just a piece of paper with the dates you need to leave the country by. You don't really need to have it as long as you know your dates.

My friend is in the same position as you and he doesn't need to go back to the States as far as I'm aware. If you give immigration a call on 02 2650 6212 then they will be able to answer all your questions.

I know everyone bitches about immigration, and last year I did have major problems with them, i.e calling them and getting a different answer each time (my first visa was cancelled too and I didn't have to go back to the UK, just had to get a brand new visa...new CRC and transcripts etc, and then had to go to Japan, but I was over 9 months on my visa). But this year they seem to be a lot better.
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zimmerman



Joined: 02 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stuck wrote:


The exit order is just a piece of paper with the dates you need to leave the country by. You don't really need to have it as long as you know your dates.



Should the exit date be on my Visa? All I see is the cancellation date and something written in Korean. I just don't want to have any problems flying to Seoul. If I had a piece of paper I could show it to them oat the airport. Maybe my former boss has it.
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stuck



Joined: 26 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as you know your exit date it shouldn't be a problem. You can go back to immigration to get a copy but you're right, your boss probably has it.

They actually stapled my exit order into my passport when I went there to collect the EO (my previous employer had cancelled my visa without my knowledge).

Why are you worried about flying to Seoul?
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zimmerman



Joined: 02 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stuck wrote:
As long as you know your exit date it shouldn't be a problem. You can go back to immigration to get a copy but you're right, your boss probably has it.

They actually stapled my exit order into my passport when I went there to collect the EO (my previous employer had cancelled my visa without my knowledge).

Why are you worried about flying to Seoul?


Because all I have is a passport with a visa that says canceled stamped on it. And April 14. But I don't understand the rest in Korean. So it doesn't appear to have an exit date on the visa. So I'm afraid they will look at it and day "This is canceled, you must leave now."

The boss specifically said the exit date was the 28th, but it doesn't seem like I have anything to document that.
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stuck



Joined: 26 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry, the exit date is 14 days from the date of cancellation. You won't have problems with immigration when you leave. But if you are concerned I'm pretty sure you can get a copy of the exit order from immigration.
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Ut videam



Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: Pocheon-si, Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this your first E-2 visa?

How long did you work for your present employer before the visa was cancelled?

The answers to these two questions may have a significant impact on whether or not you have to go back to the US for a new visa.
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zimmerman



Joined: 02 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ut videam wrote:
Is this your first E-2 visa?

How long did you work for your present employer before the visa was canceled?

The answers to these two questions may have a significant impact on whether or not you have to go back to the US for a new visa.


Yes, this is my first e-2 and it's on record that I worked there for a month. The boss said I can get a job at a public school within these two weeks or I would have to go back home. But she seemed a little confused about the process herself so I figured i could just either try to find a Public job in two weeks or leave the country and come back and look for a private. I really don't want to go all the way back home. Also, I was fired and didn't quit. if that makes any difference.
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zimmerman



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I said before she said I could try to find a public job in two weeks but I don't have any documents to state this. Should I have a piece of paper stating this? Or would immigration know when I reapply for another visa?
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zimmerman



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just talked to the immigration help line and she said that if I don't get a job in two weeks than I could go to Japan and reapply for a new visa and I wouldn't have to go back home. Despite the fact that I've been here a month, as long as I have had a visa issued to me in the past. I'm hoping she's right, she said to get a letter of release from my former employer.
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zimmerman



Joined: 02 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a template for the LOR. I imagine the seal is the red mark, or signature thing they do. Should I get the seal of only the Representative? Do I need the school's official seal also?
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Tommy



Joined: 24 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As previously stated, you don't need a LOR if your visa has been canceled, which it has: your employer went with you to immi and canceled it for you.

If you really want to exit order in paper, you can get it from immigration, but it changes nothing: you still need to leave the country 14 days after your visa has been canceled - in this case the 28th. You can ask for an extension, but they'll need to see proof of you leaving (plane ticket, boat ticket).

In all likelihood, you'll be able to do a visa run to Japan rather than going all the way back home. If you haven't found a job by the 28th then leave the country and come back as as a tourist. You don't want break the rules which might force you to go all the way back home to get your visa.

Try focusing on your new job and less on the little things which you don't need (LOR, exit order).
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zimmerman



Joined: 02 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tommy wrote:
As previously stated, you don't need a LOR if your visa has been canceled, which it has: your employer went with you to immi and canceled it for you.

If you really want to exit order in paper, you can get it from immigration, but it changes nothing: you still need to leave the country 14 days after your visa has been canceled - in this case the 28th. You can ask for an extension, but they'll need to see proof of you leaving (plane ticket, boat ticket).

In all likelihood, you'll be able to do a visa run to Japan rather than going all the way back home. If you haven't found a job by the 28th then leave the country and come back as as a tourist. You don't want break the rules which might force you to go all the way back home to get your visa.

Try focusing on your new job and less on the little things which you don't need (LOR, exit order).



Totally. Thanks for you advice!
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure you don't throw the exit order in the trash. Keep it with you and show it at the airport if you don't have the card. Chances are you weren't told that by immigration. It's happened to a few foreigners.
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