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dmbfan

Joined: 09 Mar 2006

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:43 pm Post subject: Take Vermont.....please.

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Vermont Lawmakers Look To Legalize Teen 'Sexting'
Under Current Law, Teens Who Text Message Explicit Photos Could Be Prosecuted As Sex OffendersMONTPELIER, Vt. (CBS) ―

Text messaging graphic pictures of yourself could soon be legal for teens in Vermont.
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Text messaging graphic pictures of yourself could soon be legal for teens in Vermont.

Lawmakers there are considering a bill that would make it legal for teenagers 18 and under to exchange explicit photos and videos of themselves � an act that's come to be known by teens as "sexting."

Under the current law, teenagers could be prosecuted as sex offenders if they get caught sending graphic sexual images of themselves, even if it was consensual.

A state House committee will hear more testimony on it later this week.

Do You Think Sexting Should Be Legal For Teens? Leave Your Comments Here!

In a recent study, 18 percent of female students nationwide say they've tried sexting.

New York City student Stefanie Garcia is only in high school, and says sexting happens all the time.

"Girls in underwear, guys completely naked, muscle pictures, stuff like that," Garcia told CBS 2.

Actress Vanessa Hudgens is still trying to live down the scandal of her nude pictures ending up on-line, when they were meant for her boyfriend.

"It'll get there in like 30 seconds. The world can know about anything," high school senior Juli Ssacontreras said.

Ssacontreras says sexting is like paparazzi for teenagers and it's not just nude pictures that are being sent.

"People using drugs, of people being drunk, maybe doing some other illegal activities," she said.

Karen Salmansohn is an expert on talking with teenagers about smart choices. She writes books to empower girls, and says parents need to talk to their kids about the dangers of sexting -- using their language.

"Don't talk to them in language saying this is right this is wrong. That's not going to get to a kid," Salmansohn said.

"You have to talk them, you know what you think is cool isn't so cool. You have to use the language of cool because that's why they're doing it."

Tell them that once that embarrassing pictures goes out, there's no way to get it off the Internet, and could affect their college and future job opportunities when recruiters search the Web. They're also up for grabs for sexual predators. By law, sexually explicit pictures of anyone under 18 are considered child pornography.

The head of wiredsafety.org, says minors can be charged with child pornography, so parents need to call police if an explicit picture of your child is on the Internet. If you don't get action, contact your attorney general's office.

harlowethrombey

Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:04 am Post subject:

you know maybe they dont agree with it on a moral level, but they're trying to avoid a rash of cases where they have to prosecute 16 year old girls for sending a naked picture of themselves to their 16 year old boyfriend. I may not personally think this behaviour is a good idea, but I'm not dumb enough to think that making it illegal is going to stop it. The drinking age sure does shut down a lot of underaged drinking, right? So let's just throw out all the laws? No. Underage drinking is a problem because it goes hand in hand with drunk dirving. Except that has potentially fatal consequences. Nudie pictures? Not usually.

dmbfan

Joined: 09 Mar 2006

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:24 am Post subject:

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you know maybe they dont agree with it on a moral level, but they're trying to avoid a rash of cases where they have to prosecute 16 year old girls for sending a naked picture of themselves to their 16 year old boyfriend.

I may not personally think this behaviour is a good idea, but I'm not dumb enough to think that making it illegal is going to stop it. The drinking age sure does shut down a lot of underaged drinking, right?

So let's just throw out all the laws? No. Underage drinking is a problem because it goes hand in hand with drunk dirving.

Except that has potentially fatal consequences. Nudie pictures? Not usually.

Kids need boundaries.....period.

dmbfan

Fox

Joined: 04 Mar 2009

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:46 am Post subject:

This seems to be a suggestion to legalize child pornography as long as the child in question consents? It sounds to me like they're taking every difficulty surrounding the prosecution and enforcement of rape laws and applying it to child pornography as well (at least child pornography of teenagers). Probably not a good idea.

As an aside:

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"Don't talk to them in language saying this is right this is wrong. That's not going to get to a kid," Salmansohn said.

"You have to talk them, you know what you think is cool isn't so cool. You have to use the language of cool because that's why they're doing it."

I can't imagine a child listening to their parents go on about what is and isn't "cool" and not feel patronized, annoyed, or embarassed.

Hater Depot

Joined: 29 Mar 2005

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:12 am Post subject:

dmbfan wrote:

Kids need boundaries.....period.

And the state has to provide them, along with criminal histories and sex offender registration?

Pligganease

Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:12 am Post subject:

dmbfan wrote:

Kids need boundaries.....period.

dmbfan

Yeah. Those sixteen year-old girls should be registered sex offenders for the rest of their lives.

I'm of the opinion that parents should be responsible for the punishment of their kids for things that aren't really criminal.

But, that's just me.

3MB

Joined: 26 Mar 2009

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:43 am Post subject:

Pligganease wrote:

dmbfan wrote:

Kids need boundaries.....period.

dmbfan

I always suspected the dmb im dmbfan stood for dumb. I agree, its up to parents, not the law to set limits for non-criminal behavior. If you want to argue that this is criminal behavior, then you are as dumb as dmbfan.

Ya-ta Boy

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:22 am Post subject:

3MB wrote:

Pligganease wrote:

dmbfan wrote:

Kids need boundaries.....period.

dmbfan

I have mentioned before that I think dmbfan was missing a vowel.

My new concern is his obsession with other people's sexuality. The other day he posted about gay marriage in Iowa, now he's on teenyboppers and their sexual adventures. It's beginning to look like the OP has a problem with sex in general.

dmbfan

Joined: 09 Mar 2006

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject:

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always suspected the dmb im dmbfan stood for dumb. I agree, its up to parents, not the law to set limits for non-criminal behavior. If you want to argue that this is criminal behavior, then you are as dumb as dmbfan.

Wow.....quite the brainbuster there, eh?

So, it is dumb to suggest that kids needs boundaries?

You are doing nothing but polarizing the issue.

And as for you Ya ta boy.......keep talking your shit. Becauase we all know that you wouldn't have the minerals to say anything like you posted to somones face. You would much rather curl up on a sock drawer.

Again, another example (thank you YTB) of polarizing the issue.

Yes.....kids need boundaries. Parents can't watch their CHILDREN 24/7.

dmbfan

3MB

Joined: 26 Mar 2009

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:12 pm Post subject:

dmbfan wrote:

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Yes, its dumb. Im glad you see the point.

Do kids need boundries? Ofcourse, who said they dont? Kids need boundries set by parents. If parents cant set boundries, then thats too bad, but to allow government into the home to do the disciplining for the parents is, well, really dumb. Are youb SERIOUSLY saying that a girl or boy, should be branded as a sexual offender for the rest of their lives for text messaging a picture of themselves to a boyfriend or girlfriend? Seriously, are you REALLY suggesting that when someone is 40 they should be treated the same as a child molestor because when they were 16 they sent a text message to a friend? Are you REALLY suggesting this? If so, you are dumber than dumb, you are a stupid moron.

dmbfan

Joined: 09 Mar 2006

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject:

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Riddle me this............when did I say that a girl or boy, shoudl be branded as a sexual offender for the rest of their lives? Point that out to me.

What I am saying........(again)...is that kids need boundaries. If you want to call me a moron for saying that, go ahead.

Yes, parents should take the responsibility to discipoine their kids. But, I don't think that kids should be able to run around free, doing things becuase it feels good.

The reasons I made I posted the article are becuase....(there are different ways to look at it).....

1. It cleary shows how fucked up Vermont is and has been.
2. This situation has crossed some strange boundary between empowering children yet saying parents should be soley responsible for their kids.
3. It raises the question about goverment, morals and how far they should go.
4. The extreme nature of that law, suggesting that the kids could be labled sex offenders. Now, if adults get caught doing that with children under legal age, then yep................get em.
5. The article shows what bad parenting, empowering children and providing them with too much freedom can screw up society.

And, I'll say it again....................kids need boundaries....period.

dmbfan

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Pligganease

Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject:

dmbfan wrote:

Wow.....quite the brainbuster there, eh?

So, it is dumb to suggest that kids needs boundaries?

No, but it is dumb to suggest that the government rather than the parents are responsible for creating those boundaries.

dmbfan wrote:

You are doing nothing but polarizing the issue.

I'm trying, but I can't think of the last time you made a post that wasn't completely polar from the start.

dmbfan wrote:

And as for you Ya ta boy.......keep talking your shit. Becauase we all know that you wouldn't have the minerals to say anything like you posted to somones face. You would much rather curl up on a sock drawer.

Again, another example (thank you YTB) of polarizing the issue.

Wow. Tough talking internet bully. Right on.

dmbfan wrote:

Yes.....kids need boundaries. Parents can't watch their CHILDREN 24/7.

dmbfan

Finally, we get to the issue. Since parents can't watch their children at all hours, let's do several things.

Let's make the internet illegal. That way kids can't look at porn.
Let's make playing cards illegal, so that kids can't gamble.
Let's shut down every brewery and distillery in the United States so kids can't raid mom and pop's liquor cabinet.
Let's make cars illegal so kids can't get into car accidents.

When it rains logic, it pours.

dmbfan

Joined: 09 Mar 2006

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:06 pm Post subject:

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dmbfan wrote:
Wow.....quite the brainbuster there, eh?

So, it is dumb to suggest that kids needs boundaries?

No, but it is dumb to suggest that the government rather than the parents are responsible for creating those boundaries.

dmbfan wrote:
You are doing nothing but polarizing the issue.

I'm trying, but I can't think of the last time you made a post that wasn't completely polar from the start.

dmbfan wrote:
And as for you Ya ta boy.......keep talking your shit. Becauase we all know that you wouldn't have the minerals to say anything like you posted to somones face. You would much rather curl up on a sock drawer.

Again, another example (thank you YTB) of polarizing the issue.

Wow. Tough talking internet bully. Right on.

dmbfan wrote:
Yes.....kids need boundaries. Parents can't watch their CHILDREN 24/7.

dmbfan

Finally, we get to the issue. Since parents can't watch their children at all hours, let's do several things.

Let's make the internet illegal. That way kids can't look at porn.
Let's make playing cards illegal, so that kids can't gamble.
Let's shut down every brewery and distillery in the United States so kids can't raid mom and pop's liquor cabinet.
Let's make cars illegal so kids can't get into car accidents.

When it rains logic, it pours.

All you did was provide "gotcha distractions"..........nothing more.

Kids need boundaries.......period.

(this is what happens when you allow a hollywood, pop stars and the far left to influence soceity..........that and empowering kids combined with bad parenting).

dmbfan

3MB

Joined: 26 Mar 2009

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:13 pm Post subject:

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Under the current law, teenagers could be prosecuted as sex offenders if they get caught sending graphic sexual images of themselves, even if it was consensual.

This is the problem, you moron. The law needs to be changed or scrapped, because the boundries you seem to be supporting are akin to using electric wire to control a baby. Yes, you are dumb, so dumb infact you misspelled your own nickname, forgetting the u in dumb, tough guy. Nobody said kids dont need boundries, some of us just realize the current boundries are stupid.

Pligganease

Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:26 pm Post subject:

dmbfan wrote:

Thank you for reminding me why I normally ignore your posts.

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