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Your Children's English Ability
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Zantetsuken



Joined: 21 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:43 pm    Post subject: Your Children's English Ability Reply with quote

I suppose this is for the guys here who are married to Korean women with kids. How do you feel about your kids English level and how it is progressing? A lot of the guys I see posting (F-2 F-5 visa dudes) are usually doing the early corporate gig followed by the kindergarten gig then some hakwon stuff and some evening gig... which keeps you occupied throughout the day. Even the university guys are staying pretty busy throughout the day. Considering that you are their primary source of English communication/learning...when do you find time to help them? I have a few kids myself and I've been trying to formulate some strategies. Would like to hear your ideas/feedback etc.

Thanks
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read and play with my daughter for a few hours each day.

So far, at 2 years old, her language acquisition is around 40-60 (Korean).
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Scott in Incheon



Joined: 30 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My daughters are 8 and 6 (this June). I was a little worried about their English but a trip by my parents last year and a trip home this year has made me feel a lot better.

My older daughter can communicate quite easily in English. Some vocab problems, but she just asks her Mom and then continues...or explains to me and I tell her the word.

The younger is also quite good but not nearly as good as her sister. The older one spent her first years in Hong Kong and our house was much more English then...the younger one spent those years in Korea and here our house (excluding me) is mostly Korean.

Reading is quite bad for both of them, but that is my fault. I keep starting a reading program and then get sidetracked by work. I swear I will start again this summer....really...I swear

Trying to create an English atmosphere at home is really important. Lots of books and videos for the kids and if you can.

Then try to talk to them as much as possible. I vocalize my thoughts a lot more than I normally would and try to get them to tell me about their day after dinner. Though now that they are older I am often just ignored for their friends outside....such is growing up.
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GwangjuParents



Joined: 31 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get SkyLife and have them watch the Disney Channel all day.
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Zantetsuken



Joined: 21 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was also thinking about taking the kids with me to work places in a couple years when they get a little older...so that they can have more practice. But they wouldn't have as much time with their own age group as other kids...but I really don't want my kids not being able to know English as well as kids back in the states/canada/etc. Has anybody done this?
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since my two go to school it had become priority that they produce well in math and writing. It's so hard with English and my work all day. I've decided to go back to NZ for the main purpose of their English. Also a bit sick and tired of the schedule, the system, constant traffic jammed commute and quality of life here, regardless of better income.

I read bedtime stories when I'm not dead tired, also do a bit of book work. But, they do all their homework in math and Korean so they are dead tired (as well as their mother) at the end of that.
School here I think sucks a bit. Most of what the kids learn is done with homework. Teachers just seem to relegate and check. A lot is passed on to parents and private tutors, of which two for math and writing come to our home. The kids do about three hours a day homework to keep up.
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheonmunka wrote:
Since my two go to school it had become priority that they produce well in math and writing. It's so hard with English and my work all day. I've decided to go back to NZ for the main purpose of their English. Also a bit sick and tired of the schedule, the system, constant traffic jammed commute and quality of life here, regardless of better income.

I read bedtime stories when I'm not dead tired, also do a bit of book work. But, they do all their homework in math and Korean so they are dead tired (as well as their mother) at the end of that.
School here I think sucks a bit. Most of what the kids learn is done with homework. Teachers just seem to relegate and check. A lot is passed on to parents and private tutors, of which two for math and writing come to our home. The kids do about three hours a day homework to keep up.


A lot of moms say it is the hagwons and tutors that educate their child. NOT public education. I guess it really is true, sadly.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My daughter is as fluent as you're going to get at 4. She communicates with people with ease and if she doesn't know a word, she either points to it, or describes it so we know what she's trying to say and tell her what the word is.

She is tri-lingual, so I am not pushing her too hard.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:
My daughter is as fluent as you're going to get at 4. She communicates with people with ease and if she doesn't know a word, she either points to it, or describes it so we know what she's trying to say and tell her what the word is.

She is tri-lingual, so I am not pushing her too hard.


oh come on.. I read an article a few years ago about a kid that age who could speak 6 languages. Kids can learn a child's level of a language very easily for multiple languages.

I've read up on this a bit, and one common thing I've read from a few sources is that if you want to raise a child bilingual, its important both parents speak both languages fluently. its recommended that you speak the foreign language at home and the native language outside. So in this case you should be speaking only english at home and when you're out of the house you should be speaking only Korean. The thinking being that the kids will get plenty of exposure to the native language at school, with their friends, etc. So when you're home you really need to focus on that foreign language. Korea might be a little different because of how much of a focus there is on English in this culture though.

Of course there are exceptions when you meet people who only speak one or the other, but that is how the general rule should go.
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Forward Observer



Joined: 13 Jan 2009
Location: FOB Gloria

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I grew up bilingual, but I went to American schools in the european country I lived in. The benefit of that was that I was able to speak the local language with everyone in my extended family, but I spoke English to my friends and my parents. I am somewhat fluent in that language, but since I never went to their schools, I have trouble writing. I think that you should send your children to international schools, even if it's expensive. Especially if you plan to take your kids back to the west anytime in the future.

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tzechuk



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