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DorkothyParker



Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Location: Jeju

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:06 pm    Post subject: How competitive is Epik? Reply with quote

I apologize if this post exists elsewhere; I did a search and there wasn't really any information on the first couple pages so I got lazy. Smile

I'm graduating next month and I plan on applying for the fall semester. However, I'm not exactly at the top of my class. My GPA will probably only be about a 3.0. I know for other teaching programs, JET in Japan, for example, they require a high GPA, a private university education (I'm graduating from Boise State), and all kinds of fancy extras to be considered.

I REALLY want to teach English and I think I would be good at it. I would just hate to be turned down for my lackluster record. So, how competitive is EPIK?
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gurudanny



Joined: 24 Oct 2008
Location: Chesapeake, VA

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have a pulse? Can you pass a health exam? Do you/ will you have a Bachelors degree?

If you answered yes, EPIK will be really easy for you.

A 3.0 GPA is nothing to be ashamed of either, but as long as you have a degree you can make it into EPIK if you follow the deadlines. I say if you really want to come (I assure you it's the best decision I've made in a long time), I say go for EPIK.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is competitive to get into the better areas, but if you're attractive you will have no problem with that.
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BS.Dos.



Joined: 29 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're crying out for teachers OP. If there is a selective process at work within EPIK, then I suspect it falls along racial, sovereign and (possibly) gender lines ahead of any perceived lack of academic aptitude.
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gurudanny



Joined: 24 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It also helps if you're early (but not too early) with sending in your documents. Placements are made at afirst come, first served basis. I was placed in my 1st choice (Busan) becuase of that. And the fact that they have about 130 positions open every semester for Busan. Some friends of mine didn't make their first choice because they waited too long to send their documents. If you want the Fall intake, start gathering paperwork now.
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Robot_Teacher



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EPIK is very competitive in that it requires you to have a legitimate bachelors of anything from an accredited uni and a clean criminal background check. It's not nearly as competitive as JET where you have to apply like a year in advance to go through a comlicated process and have a super high GPA. JET pays like 3,600,000 yen a year with housing subisdy and airfare added on making it twice as higher paying as EPIK in term of U$ at current xchange rates. JET is much more prestigious and much higher paying so it's much more competitive.

Even NOVA was competitive in that required you to have adequate start up finances. I was so set on going to Japan, robot central, for a couple years, but couldn't pull it off due to lack of finances and high GPA. Japan is highly competitive, because it's highly sought after for the special cultural experience it offers. Japan must be the rich scholars playground while Korea is the playground for scholars of modest economic means.

Japan is for big spenders possessing high credentials while Korea is for average people looking to earn to save $, study, and travel.
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the foystein



Joined: 23 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't realize you could make that kind of money in Japan. Thanks, I shall explore that option.
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robot_Teacher wrote:
EPIK is very competitive in that it requires you to have a legitimate bachelors of anything from an accredited uni and a clean criminal background check. It's not nearly as competitive as JET where you have to apply like a year in advance to go through a comlicated process and have a super high GPA. JET pays like 3,600,000 yen a year with housing subisdy and airfare added on making it twice as higher paying as EPIK in term of U$ at current xchange rates. JET is much more prestigious and much higher paying so it's much more competitive.

Even NOVA was competitive in that required you to have adequate start up finances. I was so set on going to Japan, robot central, for a couple years, but couldn't pull it off due to lack of finances and high GPA. Japan is highly competitive, because it's highly sought after for the special cultural experience it offers. Japan must be the rich scholars playground while Korea is the playground for scholars of modest economic means.

Japan is for big spenders possessing high credentials while Korea is for average people looking to earn to save $, study, and travel.


It`s also about who you know in Japan. JET is a great program but many of the postings are in the countryside. Japan also has a higher cost of living than Korea. Dave`s resident Korea basher is allegedly in Japan so make of it as you will...
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yeremy



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:13 am    Post subject: How Competitive is EPIK? Reply with quote

I heard that there were four applicants for every opening for the last orientation in March of 09 at Cheonan, so that made it 4:1 for the last intake. Many, if not most, of the newbies that came to the province I am in were new to Korea. There weren't that many with master's degrees. I was a bit surprised and the new group were fairly diverse, too.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:30 am    Post subject: Re: How Competitive is EPIK? Reply with quote

yeremy wrote:
I heard that there were four applicants for every opening for the last orientation in March of 09 at Cheonan, so that made it 4:1 for the last intake. Many, if not most, of the newbies that came to the province I am in were new to Korea. There weren't that many with master's degrees. I was a bit surprised and the new group were fairly diverse, too.


4-1 for Cheonan? Why? Because it's on the Seoul subway line?
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spitfire



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: How Competitive is EPIK? Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
yeremy wrote:
I heard that there were four applicants for every opening for the last orientation in March of 09 at Cheonan, so that made it 4:1 for the last intake. Many, if not most, of the newbies that came to the province I am in were new to Korea. There weren't that many with master's degrees. I was a bit surprised and the new group were fairly diverse, too.


4-1 for Cheonan? Why? Because it's on the Seoul subway line?


They were saying that the orientation was in Cheonan, not that everybody wants to teach in Cheonan. Anyway that info is wrong, most provinces filled their quotas but some didnt and there was another orientation in Seoul a few weeks ago.
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yeremy



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:50 pm    Post subject: The info's not wrong Reply with quote

The info's not wrong. I asked and heard it from the former EPIK manager for Gyeongbuk. However, it could be for Gyeongbuk only. In that case, my bad. I was an unofficial (didn't get paid) EPIK coordinator last semester, but thankfully not this semester in Gyeongbuk.
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spitfire



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: The info's not wrong Reply with quote

yeremy wrote:
The info's not wrong. I asked and heard it from the former EPIK manager for Gyeongbuk. However, it could be for Gyeongbuk only. In that case, my bad. I was an unofficial (didn't get paid) EPIK coordinator last semester, but thankfully not this semester in Gyeongbuk.


4 applications for 1 position in Gyeongbuk? Laughing

There was another intake in Gyeongbuk just a few weeks ago as not all positions were filled. People from the second orientation. I applied for Gyeongbuk in February and only 40 odd of 120 positions were taken. These are the facts. I'm sorry that the EPIK office took advantage of your good nature.
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yeremy



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We aren't privy to how the hiring is done. That's true. It was an interesting experience but I don't want to do it again.
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JET isn't that competitive....I got past the application stage with a 3rd rate Uni, no real teaching experiencing outside of tutoring, and a 2.4 GPA...I was disqualified because they called me asking for a medical note at the last minute and the hospital didn't send it on time.

The competitive part of JET is that they want you to follow EVERY rule to a T when applying....don't include 3 copies of form AB like they asked? Possible disqualification...They get so many applicants so it helps weed them out....do the research online(I think I'm lost is a good site) on the application process. Do that and you'll learn all the hiring protocols(JET uses former participants for hiring tasks so the information has leaked quite a bit...they even have a bank of the interview questions they use).

EPIK and GEPIK(to an lesser extent) is as uncompetitive as it gets....just follow the process and your In....SMOE is competitive...they look out for experience for teaching...or impressive resumes....I had something that impressed them and I was in with barely any experience...
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