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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:12 pm    Post subject: Korean teachers' credentials Reply with quote

The comments from some Korean big wigs concerning the "lack of qualifications" for NETs brings to mind a question about Korean credentials. Do any other countries recognize a Korean teaching credential? Specifically, do any of the "Big Seven" countries recognize it?
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bundangbabo



Joined: 01 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know quite a few of the younger Korean teachers here working who have not passed the Korean teachers exam - I've heard it is something like one in eighty teachers pass the exam - so it is more than likely that we are as qualified as many of the younger K's.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just about any Korean degree by itself is worthless outside Korea, unless you're working somewhere like a Korean school in China.
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Jammer113



Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's difficult at every level, of course, but when my girlfriend took the elementary school teacher's exam for Ggyeonggi, it was a 1 in 3 pass rate.
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Zantetsuken



Joined: 21 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love to see their teachers exam...probably questions are along the lines of bullcrap like this.

17. Which is more correct?

A. I like watching birds

B. I like watching the birds.
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have student teachers come out for observation and are part of classes that I go into myself. But, come to think of it I've never seen the student teachers, at the place I've worked at for three years, ever take/conduct themselves an observed class for evaluation.

So, without actually conducting field practice, again we have the 'test' system for evaluation. Let me guess, it's multi-choice?
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently for elementary school teachers, there is a song and dance part/requisite.
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xuanzang wrote:
Apparently for elementary school teachers, there is a song and dance part/requisite.


Very important skill for staff dinners! Probably about 40% allotted for that.
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard it's very tough to pass the Korean teacher's exam. It still seems quite feasible to not speak English much at all and be an English teacher but perhaps LMB's reforms might actually change that.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Privateer wrote:
I've heard it's very tough to pass the Korean teacher's exam.


The longer I live here and the more Korean teachers (of any subject) I meet, the more I'm convinced that the teacher's exam is only tough for those who got a joke of an education. Those who applied themselves to their schoolwork (although it's evidently not necessary to actually graduate in this country) seem to have had no problem at all with the teacher's exam.
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shl82



Joined: 02 Nov 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:38 pm    Post subject: about teacher's exam Reply with quote

being a public school certified teacher is really tough. it is true that the competition is really tough. there are three phases of the test. written test(part I), then writing part(part II)&sample teaching, and lastly the interview. so many people want to be public school job because once u become a teacher its a very stable job. my friend(who i have known all my life) have dedicated the past three years in trying to pass the teacher's exam. it was not easy for her. and she was an excellent in college getting almost 4.0 all four years. if you compare the requirements of foreign teachers, its really incomparable. we dont need to have exceptional high marks on GPA, just need a college degree. thats why we get a lot of criticism from koreans saying that FT who work in korea, for the majority not qualified to teach.
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blaseblasphemener



Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject: Re: about teacher's exam Reply with quote

shl82 wrote:
being a public school certified teacher is really tough. it is true that the competition is really tough. there are three phases of the test. written test(part I), then writing part(part II)&sample teaching, and lastly the interview. so many people want to be public school job because once u become a teacher its a very stable job. my friend(who i have known all my life) have dedicated the past three years in trying to pass the teacher's exam. it was not easy for her. and she was an excellent in college getting almost 4.0 all four years. if you compare the requirements of foreign teachers, its really incomparable. we dont need to have exceptional high marks on GPA, just need a college degree. thats why we get a lot of criticism from koreans saying that FT who work in korea, for the majority not qualified to teach.


you're korean, stop pretending otherwise. your poor English skills betray you.

Down, madoka, down.


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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:46 pm    Post subject: Re: about teacher's exam Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
you're korean, stop pretending otherwise. your poor English skills betray you.


Pray tell, where did he ever proclaim that he wasn't Korean? Sounds like you want every gyopo to begin with a disclaimer.

Second, who the f@$k cares but racist a-holes like you? Does his ethnicity automatically invalidate/discount everything he wrote?
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
Privateer wrote:
I've heard it's very tough to pass the Korean teacher's exam.


The longer I live here and the more Korean teachers (of any subject) I meet, the more I'm convinced that the teacher's exam is only tough for those who got a joke of an education. Those who applied themselves to their schoolwork (although it's evidently not necessary to actually graduate in this country) seem to have had no problem at all with the teacher's exam.


I've only met one person who was trying to pass the exam but he was someone I respected, well-educated and smart, and he didn't pass first time.

I think it's tough to get certification, but perhaps once you've got it you're set. Haven't met or worked with any actual public school teachers.
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tacitus14



Joined: 10 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The teaching credentials in Korea are a joke. I'm not sure about in the other developped nations but in the one that I'm from you actually have to study a subject before you get a teaching degree. In Korea you major in education and then you have a specialization which is why so many teachers, say in the field of English, cannot read, write or speak.

I knew a couple of teachers going back to school for their masters in English education. Robinson Crusoe was the one English book they would have to read the entire time. And I bet it was some watered down edition without the latin abbreviations.

I'm not a teacher in Korea, but when I was at least I had studied a subject and knew that subject well, not like the vast majority of Korean teachers I knew who knew shit, but studied their asses off to pass one test.

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"Do any other countries recognize a Korean teaching credential?"

[mod edit: (ungrammatical) ad hominem removed. play the post, not the poster.] Nobody recognizes Korean degrees. They are absolutely garbage! The only field that Korea is competitive in is Korean and they're losing ground to the Uzbeks quickly.
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