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earthbound14



Joined: 23 Jan 2007
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:22 pm    Post subject: waking up Canadian?! Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDeDQpIQFD0

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123993183347727843.html

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Thanks to a new law, Canada will bestow citizenship Friday on what its government believes could be hundreds of thousands of unsuspecting foreigners, most of them Americans.


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The citizenship bonanza is the byproduct of a decadeslong struggle by a motley group of people who claim they were unfairly denied or lost their Canadian nationality.


Just thought this was kind of funny and kind of nice. It's cool that Canada is correcting some things that they did wrong in the past and making Canada a slightly more open country at the same time.
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lestat_duvoise



Joined: 02 Apr 2009
Location: Pellington

PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My grandmother was a full Canadian citizen even after she married my grandfather and moved to the US and my mom was born in 1957- so according to this new law, she is officially a Canadian citizen.
It would be cool to see if this would extend to her children (me) and if it would enable me to get a Canadian passport....Then I would be cool Cool
Fucking sweet!!!!!.................
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justaguy



Joined: 01 Jan 2008
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have also heard that this new law will deny citizenship to the children of Canadians if they are born outside the country. Something about not paying taxes or being a resident. Is this true?
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Sleepy in Seoul



Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks to a new law, Canada will bestow citizenship Friday on what its government believes could be hundreds of thousands of unsuspecting foreigners, most of them Americans.


What is 'citizenship Friday'?
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harlowethrombey



Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isnt this more of a punishment than a 'good morning'?
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lestat_duvoise



Joined: 02 Apr 2009
Location: Pellington

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have also heard that this new law will deny citizenship to the children of Canadians if they are born outside the country. Something about not paying taxes or being a resident. Is this true?


This new law is meant for people whose parents or parent were Canadian and lived outside Canada but had their citizenship revoked for living outside the country. As long as the person was born between 1947 and 1977, who had one or both parents who were Canadian- then they are now Considered full-fledge Canadian and are eligible for a certificate of proof of Canadian citizenship- giving them all the benefits, such as healthcare and also a passport. I am going to contact someone next week and try to see if it extends to their children also....

According the the website, a denial is not given based on payment of taxes because prior to the law. Besides, how would they pay taxes if they were not citizens prior to this new law? I think that after a person makes their citizenship claim official that Revenue Canada would go after them for taxes......
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My grandfather was Canadian. The way I read it is that the new law would apply to my father (if he were alive), but not me. Sure it would be cool if I could gain Canadian citizenship, but I am very doubtful that will happen.
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earthbound14



Joined: 23 Jan 2007
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

justaguy wrote:
I have also heard that this new law will deny citizenship to the children of Canadians if they are born outside the country. Something about not paying taxes or being a resident. Is this true?


They aren't going to deny citizenship. They simply seem to be cleaning up the system. When you go back to Canada you can claim your children as residents of Canada then apply for citizenship.

Seems reasonable, but honestly I would prefer if my kids were siimply able to be Canadian since I am Canadian no matter where we live. But I understand as I'm not a resident and I don't pay taxes there. So really what rights should my kids have. The problem with this though is if you die before they are able to get citizenship. I hope there are laws in place to make sure my kids are treated fairly by the system in that case.

look it up here

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/faq/citizenship/index.asp
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Jae_Sun_Kr



Joined: 09 Apr 2009
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything to get some attention. I bet most people wake and say fuk im canadian now.
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justaguy



Joined: 01 Jan 2008
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

earthbound14 wrote:
justaguy wrote:
I have also heard that this new law will deny citizenship to the children of Canadians if they are born outside the country. Something about not paying taxes or being a resident. Is this true?


They aren't going to deny citizenship. They simply seem to be cleaning up the system. When you go back to Canada you can claim your children as residents of Canada then apply for citizenship.

Seems reasonable, but honestly I would prefer if my kids were siimply able to be Canadian since I am Canadian no matter where we live. But I understand as I'm not a resident and I don't pay taxes there. So really what rights should my kids have. The problem with this though is if you die before they are able to get citizenship. I hope there are laws in place to make sure my kids are treated fairly by the system in that case.

look it up here

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/faq/citizenship/index.asp


Would it be just simpler to have your children born in Canada? I'm just worried that the federal government seems focued on who pays them now rather than who paid them in the past, regardless of how much or for how long.
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wings



Joined: 09 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As long as the person was born between 1947 and 1977, who had one or both parents who were Canadian- then they are now Considered full-fledge Canadian and are eligible for a certificate of proof of Canadian citizenship- giving them all the benefits, such as healthcare and also a passport.


Being a Canadian citizen and having a Canadian passport does not entitle you to health care. That is something that you are only entitled to as a resident of a certain province, meaning that you live and pay taxes there.

This is where a lot of Canadians find themselves in trouble when they return to Canada after having lived abroad. If you do not pay taxes in Canada while you are in Korea, for example, then you are not entitled to provincial health care for your first 6 months back in the country.
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samcheokguy



Joined: 02 Nov 2008
Location: Samcheok G-do

PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm American, what is health care?
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