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dmbfan

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Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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I can empathize with the OP.
I imagine its not the fact they are gretting you, but the way they say "hi".
"Hieeeeeeeee"............................
I try to put a stop to that, right a way. I tell them it is better to say, "hello" rather then "Hieeeeeeeeee".
Then I ask who taught them to say "Hieeeeeeeeee".
It's a mystery.
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:06 am Post subject: |
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Hello, KuroBara!
I thought about this thread yesterday when I arrived at the school.
All the kids were on the playground, so I had to answer a lot of hello's.
I have been on the job for about a month, and I am having to learn 118 names. When I greet students in the hallway, I test myself on the names.
I used to live in a small town. Every time you step out the door, you see lots of people you know. That created a dilemma: either you had to say hellohellohellohello or people would think you're snubbing them. To get around this dilemma, each individual in that town invented an individual greeting signal which he or she felt comfortable with. One person I knew raised his arm laterally a few degrees, another person pretended his index finger was a pistol, another individual played a pianistic do-re-mi-fa--the possibilities are endless.
If you've ever worked in a public school in the United States, you probably had to serve hall duty. That means that you stand in the hallway when class was not in session, making sure that students in the hallway did not fun, fight, or otherwise misbehave. I used the occasion to see if I could greet all of the students cheerfully, even the ones who made my job more difficult. I thereby tested myself for agape.
Hello, Frankly speaking!
Hello, Straphanger!
There are several things which one can accomplish by force, but resolving negative feelings is not one of them.
Besides, each wegukin is an individual, so different wegukin's are bothered by different aspects of Korean life.
You might be bothered by something which doesn't bother KuroBara.
What bugs me more than anything else is Koreans speaking to me in English when I want to speak Korean. I have had lots of people flame me for that, and it didn't do a bit of good. |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:36 am Post subject: |
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I just recently noticed something:
A few of my students greet me every time they see me,
no matter how many times in the same day they see me.
I can't decide whether:
1. Korea doesn't share our rule limiting greetings to one a day, or . . .
2. Korea DOES share that rule, but those students haven't learned that rule yet, or . . .
3. Korea DOES share that rule, and those students HAVE learned that rule, but they are extra fond of me.
Vanity tempts me to opt for the third choice. |
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harlowethrombey

Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:28 am Post subject: Re: Am I Mean? |
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| I like my school and the students seem nice, really. But I don't want them greeting me every single time they see me, because that means I have to greet them every single time also. I am tired of hearing "Hi!!!" everywhere I go in school. I realize I an new and look different and sound different, but honestly. Give it a rest kids. I asked my co-teacher to tell the students to stop saying hi, but now they just say it in Korean, like to their Korean teachers. I understand students greeting their teachers is part of the culture, but I think they go overboard with me. I have not seen or heard them run behind their Korean teachers yelling greetings, but they do with me. Am I being nuts, or does this happen to everyone? |
happens to me every day. even students I've known for nearly a year. they're excited to see you.
Sometimes I'm tired and am slogging up the 5 floors of stairs and dont want to say 'hi' but I remember some really great advice from another teacher back home. He said, simply, that if I ever see anyone and we make eye contact I'll smile and say hello. He said you'd be amazed at the effect it has on people (yourself included).
After a dozen 'Oh, hi!' or "Hello teacher!'s actually I feel pretty happy. Why not? My kids in America werent quite as excited to see me.
Try not to look at it as a tiring experience, there will be a time in your life when no one will say hi to you and everyone will look like they want to kill you instead. That time will be when you return to the West. ..  |
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Billos
Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:53 am Post subject: |
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| tomato wrote: |
I just recently noticed something:
A few of my students greet me every time they see me,
no matter how many times in the same day they see me.
I can't decide whether:
1. Korea doesn't share our rule limiting greetings to one a day, or . . .
2. Korea DOES share that rule, but those students haven't learned that rule yet, or . . .
3. Korea DOES share that rule, and those students HAVE learned that rule, but they are extra fond of me.
Vanity tempts me to opt for the third choice. |
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WanderingGentile
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:26 am Post subject: |
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I've had this problem before too. What you have to do is pick out one kid who says hi and berate him for it in front of the other kids, that way you make an example of him and the rest of them get the message.
Good luck and keep us updated. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| tomato wrote: |
I just recently noticed something:
A few of my students greet me every time they see me,
no matter how many times in the same day they see me.
I can't decide whether:
1. Korea doesn't share our rule limiting greetings to one a day, or . . .
2. Korea DOES share that rule, but those students haven't learned that rule yet, or . . .
3. Korea DOES share that rule, and those students HAVE learned that rule, but they are extra fond of me.
Vanity tempts me to opt for the third choice. |
It's #1. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Location: Korea
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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I always welcome any students attempt at communication regardless of how awkward it may seem. However I'm not going to give praise to students for saying what they should already know.
Try to engage them in conversation. The shy timid ones will stop saying hi while the keeners will welcome the experience.You do the best teaching in the hallway and outside. The better students will approach you at your desk. |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: On the road to somewhere.
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: Am I Mean? |
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| harlowethrombey wrote: |
Try not to look at it as a tiring experience, there will be a time in your life when no one will say hi to you and everyone will look like they want to kill you instead. That time will be when you return to the West. ..  |
Oh, so true. If you're at a school that goes quiet - then you're not long for that school - or Korea.
I get Hi'd about a hundred times a day - and if the kids don't say Hi - the Korean teachers make them do it.
This is a cultural difference - it's considered extremely good manners in Korea to greet (witness the highest ranking senior teacher at my school, standing at the gate every morning, welcoming the students to school).
Enjoy it. |
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KuroBara
Joined: 15 Oct 2008 Location: Goyang-Si with a bit of Paju mixed in
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, I've adjusted fairly well to it. I just smile and most times greet back. After a month, it's not so annoying anymore. It's not fantastic, but I can cope. Quite a few students have stopped the "Hieeeeee" stuff all the time, thanks to my co-teacher telling the students to greet me as respectfully as they would a Korean teacher. I have come to realize that no matter what, the students are just hell bent on liking me. So, I guess I'll give in  |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:35 am Post subject: Re: Am I Mean? |
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| oldfatfarang wrote: |
| it's considered extremely good manners in Korea to greet |
You got a point there.
We have all seen parents push their children's heads down and say "인사하지."
I once visited a day care center where a child pushed another child's head down and said "인사하지."
Isn't that cute? |
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Cerriowen
Joined: 03 Jun 2006 Location: Pocheon
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:00 am Post subject: |
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Sometimes it can get a bit wearing... I think the excitement will tone down eventually.
As koreans say... it's a "job disease" (occupational hazard) of living in korea.
If you want to be really mean, you can always try straying from the "Hello, how are you?" dialogue (try... "hey whats up?" or "how's it hanging?") Usually they get really freaked out that you said something unexpected and slink off.
You can also start wearing earphones/headphones where ever you go. The kids assume you can't hear them, even if the plug is just going to your pocket. |
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Mr. BlackCat

Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Location: Insert witty remark HERE
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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I know it sounds like a stupid complaint, but I understand the OP. I've been at my PS for over a year and the kids still say hello/hi non-stop. There are about 1400 kids in the school, and it's not just saying 'hello'. They run up to me, grab my shirt, yell other words at me (whatever they happened to learn in English that week), offer me food/garbage, etc. The saving grace in all of this is knowing they mean well and are genuinely excited.
The times I have problems with this is when they repeatedly say hello, then laugh hysterically with their friends, who then do the same thing. 'Cause nothing's funnier than saying 'hello'. I guess. Or when I see a whole class on the echo-y stairs and they all start screaming and my ears start to bleed (figuratively). And, you know, sometimes you're in a conversation with another teacher, or are busy doing something and these kids will not shut up until you say hello to every last one of them. Yes, I try to correct them, but like I said, there's over 1400 of them and just one of me and they're kids and forget pretty quickly.
Good kids though. Just over eager at times. |
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refikaM

Joined: 06 May 2006 Location: Gangwondo
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:33 pm Post subject: hello |
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| As mentioned several times, be happy the kids are saying "hi." It means they like you.. I get bombarded with greetings from kids when on the street in my town.. Sometimes I'm with a teacher who's not particularly friendly with his kids.. His kids walk by and say nothing... I'd rather get the "hi's" anytime!! |
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