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Captain Corea
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 Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:32 pm Post subject: Criminal Cases Involving Foreigners Top 20,000 |
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http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/04/117_43627.html
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Criminal Cases Involving Foreigners Top 20,000
The number of crimes committed by foreign nationals topped 20,000 for the first time in 2008 in line with the growing foreign resident population and number of visitors.
According to the National Police Agency (NPA), 20,623 non-Koreans were hit with criminal charges ― ranging from murder, robbery and minor crimes ― a sharp rise from 14,524 in 2007.
By type of crime, drug use and frauds made up the lion�s share. Those accused of being involved in drug-related crimes stood at 694, compared with 73 in 2006. Seventy-seven percent of drug-related criminals involved Thai nationals.
The NPA said 85 foreigners were arrested on murder charges last year, up from 54 in 2007. The number of convicted foreign rapists stood at 114, the same as the previous year.
According to the Korea Immigration Service, the number of non-Korean nationals exceeded one million for the first time in August 2007 and the number has been steadily increasing. Some 1.2 million foreigners are living in Korea and 60 percent of them are immigrant workers.
``Due to the recent economic meltdown, many factories are out of business, and workers are not paid properly, which might be a key factor driving foreigners to commit crimes,�� an official of Korea Migrants Center said. ``However, the situation is the same for immigrant workers and Koreans alike and should not be generalized only for foreigners.��
Some experts also cited loopholes in the immigration system stemming from deregulation designed to boost tourism and attract more labor.
``The crime rate is much higher for foreigners than for Koreans. For example, the ratio of foreign drug offenders is much higher than that of Koreans,�� said Park Wan-suk of the Alliance for Coping with Foreign Laborers. ``Under the current system, criminals can re-enter Korea after deportation by changing their names, and it�s actually happening. The related systems should be fixed.��
The NPA said it would analyze the tendency of expatriate criminals to draw up countermeasures. ``We will centralize drug crackdown systems and implement other measures against crimes by non-Koreans,'' an NPA officer said. |
Odd, I seem to recall statistics from a year ago that showed foreign crimes were lower than the Korean average. I wonder if it has changed, or if they were meaning 'in specifics areas'? |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: Criminal Cases Involving Foreigners Top 20,000 |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Odd, I seem to recall statistics from a year ago that showed foreign crimes were lower than the Korean average. I wonder if it has changed, or if they were meaning 'in specifics areas'? |
20,000 out of a million plus is lower than the Korean average. I just wish they would point out that the large majority of those 20,000 foreigner crimes were not committed by the immoral drug-user whitey English teachers, and many are in fact Koreans from China. |
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roadwork
Joined: 24 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| I wonder why so many Thais are getting nailed for drugs and what kind of drugs they are. I got the impression that SE Asians weren't really into drugs. I know they are plentiful in SEA but I always assumed it was because of the tourists. |
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ryoga013
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| ``The crime rate is much higher for foreigners than for Koreans. For example, the ratio of foreign drug offenders is much higher than that of Koreans,�� |
This is called a "Inductive Fallacy." They look at one example and look at is as if it is the trend for most things. It's just like the first time you walked into Korea and saw some older guy smoking in a place they werent' supposed while drunk on soju and spitting everywhere and being very loud. You see one thing like that, it's not necessarily true for all Koreans or for all older males. (I know, this examples wasn't a good one against this line of thinking) |
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jotgarden
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
Location: Suwon, South Korea.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| The article pretty well attributes the increase in crimes to the increase in foreigners. This does not mean an increase in the crime rate. |
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roadwork
Joined: 24 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Also, why is anyone even looking at the crap on that website. We all know the anti-foreigner spew that comes out of that garbage rag. It's like that Halloween episode of The Simpsons where all the advertising characters come to life and Lisa figures out that if they ignore them, they'll stop. Just ignore that piece of shit rag and the vomit that it produces. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| roadwork wrote: |
| I wonder why so many Thais are getting nailed for drugs ... I got the impression that SE Asians weren't really into drugs |
They get nailed for drugs here because to get nailed in Thailand means Thai prison for 20 years. |
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roadwork
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| roadwork wrote: |
| I wonder why so many Thais are getting nailed for drugs ... I got the impression that SE Asians weren't really into drugs |
They get nailed for drugs here because to get nailed in Thailand means Thai prison for 20 years. |
Check out the book 4000 days:My Life and Survival in a Bangkok Prison by Warren Fellows. I guarantee you will never even think about doing drugs in Thailand. |
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GoldMember
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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In the Big Police Stations, you'll find an "International Crimes Division". By "International are we talking about Interpol stuff, nah basically its just the normal police whose job it is to bust Non Koreans. Unlike the Normal police who spend most of their time sleeping, these guys actually do work hard to catch waegugin.
We have Koreans who are "policed" by the Keystone cops, and foreigners who are policed by real police. Therefore Koreans are less likely to get caught, also they blend in more.
As for the 1,000,000 foreign residents, I'm calling BS on that one. That would mean 2 people in 100 are foreigners. Look at a random crowd of 1000 people and 99.9% look Korean to me. |
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Goku
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| GoldMember wrote: |
In the Big Police Stations, you'll find an "International Crimes Division". By "International are we talking about Interpol stuff, nah basically its just the normal police whose job it is to bust Non Koreans. Unlike the Normal police who spend most of their time sleeping, these guys actually do work hard to catch waegugin.
We have Koreans who are "policed" by the Keystone cops, and foreigners who are policed by real police. Therefore Koreans are less likely to get caught, also they blend in more.
As for the 1,000,000 foreign residents, I'm calling BS on that one. That would mean 2 people in 100 are foreigners. Look at a random crowd of 1000 people and 99.9% look Korean to me. |
Actually, I'm not so sure about that.
Out of the 100 Koreans I see I DO see about 2 out of every 100 Koreans. I'm not countring, but I'm taking comparitive size of crowds to how many weigooks inside, including White, Indian, or even Thai/Phillipino if I can hear them talking. |
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Lostone7
Joined: 08 Jun 2006
Location: SE Asia
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| roadwork wrote: |
| I wonder why so many Thais are getting nailed for drugs and what kind of drugs they are. I got the impression that SE Asians weren't really into drugs. I know they are plentiful in SEA but I always assumed it was because of the tourists. |
It's Yaba (speed) they do it to keep up the insane working hours and pace of the slave drivers at the sweat shops they work at.
Yaba is a big no no in Thai but is pretty popular among the factory working people. Also, it is pretty easy to make. can be made for diet pills and such.
Have any of you noticed that when arriving in Korea the declaration form says now NO diet pills and they even anounced it twice on my flight back to korea form Bangkok.
Oh, not bashing Thais!!!!!!!!!! That's what I been told by my girl and a lot of her friends. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| GoldMember wrote: |
In the Big Police Stations, you'll find an "International Crimes Division". By "International are we talking about Interpol stuff, nah basically its just the normal police whose job it is to bust Non Koreans. Unlike the Normal police who spend most of their time sleeping, these guys actually do work hard to catch waegugin.
We have Koreans who are "policed" by the Keystone cops, and foreigners who are policed by real police. Therefore Koreans are less likely to get caught, also they blend in more.
As for the 1,000,000 foreign residents, I'm calling BS on that one. That would mean 2 people in 100 are foreigners. Look at a random crowd of 1000 people and 99.9% look Korean to me. |
I've got to say, I see a number of foreigners each day - everything from Western looking people, to migrant construction workers.
BTW Goldmember, I thought you left Korea months ago? You still obsessed with this place you hated so much? |
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