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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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kangnamdragon wrote: |
dogbert wrote: |
Cthulhu wrote: |
Do foreigners get a special deal on LPG cars? A number of Koreans I talked to said that LPG cars were only for taxis, the disabled and miscellaneous "special people", whatever that means. If foreigners can own them its a good thing. |
Korean law restricts the licensing and use of LPG autos to passenger hire vehicles, certain kinds of cargo carriers, the disabled and those who are recognized as having performed meritorious service (and the families of the above). |
Not true. My friend's family has one. They did nothing meritorious for Korea. It is a Reezo. |
Restrictions on the Use of LPG-Powered Vehicles
Fair enough. My understanding of the law is that vehicles capable of carrying more than seven passengers are classified as something akin to "cargo carriers" as opposed to "passenger cars". The Rezzo, which is marketed as an RV, not a "passenger car", may come under this classification. |
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kangnamdragon

Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, that is possible, but you'll never fit 7 Americans in one. |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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Rezzo is LPG and as far as I know cannot carry 7 people. I have ridden in one and if they could 1 adult and 6 small kids...well guess it could fit 7 people.
In response to you have to be crazy to drive here:
Seoul is kind of a headache and downtown areas of other towns can be stressful, but overall driving here isn't so bad.
My hometown of Toronto is pretty much the same in terms of "rush hour" traffic.
Ya gotta do what ya gotta do. I would rather risk driving than having to stand in the bus everyday going to and from work - in my mind i want to ask "HOW DO YOU DO IT?" That is more mind boggling than driving.
Lastly:
Diseal isn't much cheaper. You would THINK it would be a lot cheaper, but let me tell you why it isn't. You burn MORE gas than you would driving a reg. gas car. There are no diseal cars that I know of, so that leaves SUVs and trucks. They make these things HEAVY and SLOW. They burn a lot of gas when you go fast.
So before in my old car it would cost me 50k to fill it up and I could go about 320KM on a tank of gas.
Now in my diseal vehicle it cost 50k to fill it up and I can go 420KM.
So I gained 100KM, you would think I would gain more. |
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wylde

Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:56 am Post subject: |
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in australia i could get 500km's from 30lt of fuel (under $20 US) my 2.4l diesel hi-lux (max speed - 140kph).. that is pretty good - it does depend on your throttle usage.
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if you service your vehicle regularly (every 3 months or 5000kms) you have a great annual saving from all the spark plugs and electronics you don't need to repair or replace...
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there are no electronics in a diesel engine so that dramatically reduces the chance of your car having mechanical problems..
the added benefits of a diesel donk far outweigh the costs and risks of a petrol engine. if you don't need a racing car a diesel motor would be the best shot for economy imo. |
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steroidmaximus

Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: GangWon-Do
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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yeah yeah you save money when driving a diesel car, but the pollution from a diesel is the worst . . .my attempt at being environmentally conscious involves not driving a diesel car.
Driving here IS nuts, and watching people regularily break laws, drive like they're the only shmucks on the road, park wherever they please is more than enough to make my blood boil. |
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wylde

Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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lpg vehicles have the least pollution but....
1. Carbon Dioxide � Probably the main cause for concern at the moment, it has been recognised around the world that it causes global warming. Though this does not directly affect our health, it certainly plays a major role in changing the climatic conditions around us. Carbon dioxide emissions are directly proportional to the fuel consumption, and because diesel cars use around 30% less fuel than petrol cars, they emit that much lesser carbon dioxide.
2. Carbon Monoxide - Carbon monoxide is a lethal poison but has the capacity to kill humans within no time. Most of us would have inhaled this at some time or the other when we run a petrol car engine in a closed space like a garage. Since diesel engines produce virtually no carbon monoxide, they are that much safer. To counter this petrol car makers have come out with Catalytic Converters but the main problem here is that these converters take nearly 15-20 minutes to warm up and function effectively.
3. Nitrogen Oxides - Nitrogen is the main constituent of the air that we breathe and when exposed to high pressures and temperatures it combines with oxygen in the air to form nitrous oxides. The nitrous oxides then combine with low level ozone to form smog which is so common in Delhi and Mumbai. Tests of cars reveal that whilst emissions of Nitrogen Oxides are higher in a new diesel than a new petrol car but by 50,000 miles or so they are the same, and after that the petrol engine produces more Oxides than the diesel car.
4. Hydrocarbons � The Hydrocarbons in fuels include chemicals such as benzene. Benzene is an stated to be an extremely carcinogen chemical and has been declared unsafe by the WHO. Hydrocarbon emissions are contained in petrol engine emissions much more than in diesel engine emissions.
5. Suspended Particulate Matter (SPM) - SPM refers to solid particles suspended in open air, such as soot generated by combustion of various fuels (both from industries and automobiles). Diesel engines emit more PM10 particles, that is particles which have a diameter up to 10 microns. These SPM are supposed to be carcinogenic in nature but a lot of research and tests across the world have not been able to prove it so far. What has been proved is the fact that they do cause respiratory problems because of their tendency to deposit themselves in the lungs.
Out of the five emissions, Diesel engines come out tops with regards to Carbon Dioxide, Carbon Monoxide and Hydrocarbons. Both fuels are more or less the same when it comes to Nitrogen oxides and Diesel certainly is dangerous from the point of view of SPM.
what it all means is that petrol cars harm the environment much more than a diesel. |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Mr. Pink wrote: |
Ya gotta do what ya gotta do. I would rather risk driving than having to stand in the bus everyday going to and from work - in my mind i want to ask "HOW DO YOU DO IT?" That is more mind boggling than driving. |
steroidmaximus wrote: |
yeah yeah you save money when driving a diesel car, but the pollution from a diesel is the worst . . .my attempt at being environmentally conscious involves not driving a diesel car. |
Yea, I choose to avoid driving a car while over here. It's simply not necessary. At most, if I need a personal taxi, I'll hop on my bike. Cold, dangerous, sucks in the rain, but awesome on fuel consumption, and less stress on the environment. 300+ km on a 13,000 won tank with a heavy bike? I'm not complaining one bit. |
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Alex Buffa
Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:50 am Post subject: |
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It's very easy. Get any car you want and have it "converted" for LPG. I know lots of poeple who drive SUV's and cars on LPG after they converted them.
Costs them about 100,000 won and you spend around 12,000 won to fill up your tank.
I'm surprised you haven't even considered that option...it's very simple!
Alex |
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Mr. Pink

Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: China
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 5:40 am Post subject: |
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Alex Buffa wrote: |
It's very easy. Get any car you want and have it "converted" for LPG. I know lots of poeple who drive SUV's and cars on LPG after they converted them.
Costs them about 100,000 won and you spend around 12,000 won to fill up your tank.
I'm surprised you haven't even considered that option...it's very simple!
Alex |
Doubt you can do that with a diseal SUV...diseal engines are built differently. |
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