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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:11 am Post subject: |
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hopefullykorea wrote: |
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Ukon, the guy is just describing himself as an average Joe Blow, which is pretty much the world average, and you're like "sounds like your game sucks", pull your head out of your arse buddy. |
Yeah, people who tout "you got no game" are those kind of people who thin "they are all that" with women, when they really aren't and like to mudsling or put down others |
You complain that american women only want tall guys followed by claiming they're all shallow with sky high standards for looks....I counter that I know short guys who do quite well for themselves including an ugly short guy....so I suggest you need to change your approach if your having problems with the ladies back home....
Sounds reasonable.... |
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hopefullykorea
Joined: 19 Apr 2009
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:28 am Post subject: |
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Ukon wrote: |
hopefullykorea wrote: |
Kurtz wrote: |
Ukon, the guy is just describing himself as an average Joe Blow, which is pretty much the world average, and you're like "sounds like your game sucks", pull your head out of your arse buddy. |
Yeah, people who tout "you got no game" are those kind of people who thin "they are all that" with women, when they really aren't and like to mudsling or put down others |
You complain that american women only want tall guys followed by claiming they're all shallow with sky high standards for looks....I counter that I know short guys who do quite well for themselves including an ugly short guy....so I suggest you need to change your approach if your having problems with the ladies back home....
Sounds reasonable.... |
Well, it's really not the "approach" but, the kind of people I'm approaching. (or maybe that's inclusive in the approach) But, you don't realize how shallow they are until you've had a conversation with them and cannot form a conclusion about them until you've gotten to know them a bit.
It's not about the method, but the subject (the person) of the method.
Like I said, I'm using "shortness" as an example. |
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:58 am Post subject: |
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hopefullykorea wrote: |
Ukon wrote: |
hopefullykorea wrote: |
Kurtz wrote: |
Ukon, the guy is just describing himself as an average Joe Blow, which is pretty much the world average, and you're like "sounds like your game sucks", pull your head out of your arse buddy. |
Yeah, people who tout "you got no game" are those kind of people who thin "they are all that" with women, when they really aren't and like to mudsling or put down others |
You complain that american women only want tall guys followed by claiming they're all shallow with sky high standards for looks....I counter that I know short guys who do quite well for themselves including an ugly short guy....so I suggest you need to change your approach if your having problems with the ladies back home....
Sounds reasonable.... |
Well, it's really not the "approach" but, the kind of people I'm approaching. (or maybe that's inclusive in the approach) But, you don't realize how shallow they are until you've had a conversation with them and cannot form a conclusion about them until you've gotten to know them a bit.
It's not about the method, but the subject (the person) of the method.
Like I said, I'm using "shortness" as an example. |
I've found people who call everyone shallow to be like crazy people who thnk everyone else is crazy, but they're sane. Afterall, YOU are so enlightened and smart
And if you think going overseas will yeild less shallow women, your out of luck....the language barrier will keep conversations very simple...even people with good english are not gonna be having philsophical discussions on Hesse....it's ****** hard to do in a different language.....
If you hate shallow conversations, stay home.... |
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hopefullykorea
Joined: 19 Apr 2009
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:00 am Post subject: |
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I've found people who call everyone shallow to be like crazy people who thnk everyone else is crazy, but they're sane. Afterall, YOU are so enlightened and smart |
I have found what you say to be the opposite, so I guess that cancels each other out.  |
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stevieg4ever

Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Location: London, England
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:06 am Post subject: Re: Dating in Korea |
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I might get slated for this but I really think it says something about someone who has been on Daves since 19th April 2009 and is already making posts about dating, itself based on tenuous assumptions.
It happens so often it really makes you wonder about the kind of people Korea attracts. Then its not easy to deduce why ESL is such a mess and why Koreans have such a despairing view towards native teachers.
hopefullykorea wrote: |
I did a couple of searches on this topic, got some pretty informative stuff, but I just wanted to confirm the comparisons with Korean women vs American women.
1. It's less of a headache to ask out a woman.
2. No "Walls" get thrown up if you attempt to get to know them?
3. No games hardly at all.
So basically, you can have fun dating in Korea, but without the stress and hassle of the games?
Just wonderin'  |
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thurst
Joined: 08 Apr 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:09 am Post subject: |
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lol i'mma have to side with ukon on this one. if you have to move halfway around the world to have a shot at women then you really do need to step your game up, and by that i mean take a hard look at yourself and stop being a lame.
there's some comic gold in this thread though |
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hopefullykorea
Joined: 19 Apr 2009
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:18 am Post subject: Re: Dating in Korea |
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stevieg4ever wrote: |
I might get slated for this but I really think it says something about someone who has been on Daves since 19th April 2009 and is already making posts about dating, itself based on tenuous assumptions.
It happens so often it really makes you wonder about the kind of people Korea attracts. Then its not easy to deduce why ESL is such a mess and why Koreans have such a despairing view towards native teachers.
hopefullykorea wrote: |
I did a couple of searches on this topic, got some pretty informative stuff, but I just wanted to confirm the comparisons with Korean women vs American women.
1. It's less of a headache to ask out a woman.
2. No "Walls" get thrown up if you attempt to get to know them?
3. No games hardly at all.
So basically, you can have fun dating in Korea, but without the stress and hassle of the games?
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You know what, forget I even asked. I intend on coming to Korea to make a living, explore the country, make some money, build up some teaching experience and so on. And I have asked other questions in this forum prior to asking this one. Already labeling me and passing judgment based on a post of a few questions asked. Of course, that's par for the course for message boards.
Sorry I asked. I'll move on to something else then. |
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afsjesse

Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:36 am Post subject: |
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I'll keep this simple. How about just being yourself? If that don't work, tune yourself up like bundangbabo said and try again.  |
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Kurtz
Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Location: ples bilong me
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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OP,
I usually don't post much on Dave's as it's a very depressing place to hang out, but this is how "the game" is played here,
A typical thread goes like this,
1) A question is posted,
2) X amount of normal responses, some might even be helpful,
3) Long term (usually) poster will then say something derogatory to OP,
4) Long term posters will then start arguing amongst themselves, taking the topic well away from its focus,
5) The odd comment will be thrown in from posters with less power, but will be completely ignored as the two heavyweight long term posters are having a head to head, like a couple of wild animals fighting for the right to fornicate with the females as it's mating season,
6) Long term posters will at some point drop it, but will keep a look out for the movements of their opponent for the next little battle of wills.
The general discussion board should mainly be used for time wasting, expect next to no serious replies, and proceed with caution through this minefield. |
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Oreovictim
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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You're 5'8"? You'll have more luck here than back home. But, and I really stress this, work on your appearance if you need to. A lot of foreign guys here are just slobs. Invest in nice clothes, shave, and if you have hair, keep it well-groomed and styled. And when you are dressed up, for God's sake, leave the backpack at home.
Anyway, back to the height thing. I'm 5'9", and when I used to do the dating sites in America, it was always the same on the profiles for the women: "Must be AT LEAST 6'0"." Some of them would be a bit more realistic and could deal with a guy who's, say, 5'10". If you've ever done the online dating, you know what I'm talking about.
Here it's a different story. Sure, women everywhere like tall guys, but it's easier in Korea. You'll be on a dating site, and a woman will say: "Must be between 5'7" - 6'0". Yeah, a lot easier.
You'll even see lots of Korean couples where they're the same height or even (gasp!) the woman's taller. It's not as common back home. |
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samcheokguy

Joined: 02 Nov 2008 Location: Samcheok G-do
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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On three ocassions I've gotten 'too tall'
Yes the upper limit seems to be about 6'3". |
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coralreefer_1
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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I am 5'8 also, and honestly find myself being in the shortest segment anywhere I go.
Sure, most older men may be around my same height, but the younger generation, say late 20's and younger, are almost always taller than myself.
That being said, as far as looks go, this has been my experience:
If you are a handsome guy and you want to be a playboy, you will be a very busy man
If you are a handsome guy and want to have a real relationship, it may be more difficult. Not that I am some show-stopping man, but I was doing pretty well for myself back home. I have found that many girls in Korea will automatically assume you are a playboy and not want to get serious with you if you are remotely handsome, as they have all heard the stories of foreigners sleeping with hundreds of women.
I would even venture to say that as far as finding a relationship with a woman you want to stay with, a "less than average" looking foreigner would be more successful than an "above average" foreigner.
Sadly, my girlfriend and I recently broke up(after more than a year together). While much of it has to do with my plans to move to Seoul, part of it was her insecurity, as she was under the impression that whenever I walked down the street, women threw themselves at me, and of course since I am a foreigner, I apparently have no control over myself and give in to any woman who shows an interest. That was the way she thought, and that is how many women think.
Many beautiful women the world over say the same things - Men will not approach them because they assume the woman must have a boyfriend, or that they are not handsome enough to be with her. Plenty of lonely models out there...believe it.
You will likely be fine no matter your height/looks. As you say you are only coming for a year, so not likely to be looking for anything serious. In that case just enjoy the different culture and make the best of it.
P.S. As others have mentioned, and I can attest, learning Korean DOES help! |
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mayorgc
Joined: 19 Oct 2008
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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OP
how old are you and how much experience have u had with women?
K gals are different from western gals on the surface.
but you still need to realize that women all over the world are the same. |
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i_teach_esl

Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Location: baebang, asan/cheonan
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:59 am Post subject: |
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spot on, kurtz^^ |
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bogey666

Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:07 am Post subject: |
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i_teach_esl wrote: |
spot on, kurtz^^ |
that was amusing
(and often true)
where are the wild animal fights for the right to fornicate with females?
I'd like throw my horns into that ring.
I'm feeling a bit horny. |
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