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HUFS foreign profs singled out for sex harassment

 
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legalquestions



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:50 am    Post subject: HUFS foreign profs singled out for sex harassment Reply with quote

According to an article in today's Korea Herald, only foreign profs at HUFS have been required to undergo a mandatory sexual harassment sensitivity training workshop (though student sexual harassment seems to be largely a Korean prof phenomena here in Korea).

Not necessarily a bad idea (though no evidence was presented that students had been sexually harassed by foreign profs - only by Korean profs.) - shouldn't the sensitivity training have first been required of the Korean profs?

Let's be positive - maybe the administration will next require sensitivity training in the areas of discrimination against foreign profs and Korean racism/bigotry in general.

Have any of you been required to attend sexual harassment sensitivity classes at your places of employment?[/i]
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Smee



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSITE/data/html_dir/2009/04/29/200904290042.asp

The article said it would be the first English-language version of materials the government has heretofore distributed in Korean. I was bothered, though, that the article made it seem like these programs were ONLY for foreign professors (that is, Korean professors were not attending one of their own). I'm not sure if that's the case.

Of course Korean professors should attend these courses. They're a million times more likely to sexually harass a student than a foreign professor. However, I'll bet you it would be much easier for a Korean professor to get out of attending these than a foreign one.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The article also threw in that canard about "cultural differences." In other words, "We've translated this material into English so we can make sure those foreign predators--who, because of their culture's acceptance of sexual predation--won't continue that behavior in the Land of the Pure Han."

Why not just admit that the cases of foreigners sexually abusing people here is a drop in the bucket compared to what native Koreans are doing?
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smee wrote:
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSITE/data/html_dir/2009/04/29/200904290042.asp

The article said it would be the first English-language version of materials the government has heretofore distributed in Korean. I was bothered, though, that the article made it seem like these programs were ONLY for foreign professors (that is, Korean professors were not attending one of their own). I'm not sure if that's the case.

Of course Korean professors should attend these courses. They're a million times more likely to sexually harass a student than a foreign professor. However, I'll bet you it would be much easier for a Korean professor to get out of attending these than a foreign one.



According to the article they translated the booklet. That to me says that there IS a sexual harassment course for Korean professors...there wouldn't be a booklet to translate in the first place if there weren't.

This particular course is being held exclusively for foreign professors...because it's all in English.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Smee wrote:
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSITE/data/html_dir/2009/04/29/200904290042.asp

The article said it would be the first English-language version of materials the government has heretofore distributed in Korean. I was bothered, though, that the article made it seem like these programs were ONLY for foreign professors (that is, Korean professors were not attending one of their own). I'm not sure if that's the case.

Of course Korean professors should attend these courses. They're a million times more likely to sexually harass a student than a foreign professor. However, I'll bet you it would be much easier for a Korean professor to get out of attending these than a foreign one.



According to the article they translated the booklet. That to me says that there IS a sexual harassment course for Korean professors...there wouldn't be a booklet to translate in the first place if there weren't.

This particular course is being held exclusively for foreign professors...because it's all in English.


The End of Days must be nigh, because I'm in complete agreement with Urban Myth.

The Korea Herald wrote:
"In the past, we didn't have enough foreign professors to hold such education sessions in a foreign language. But with their increased numbers, we have translated the government-distributed information booklet into English and will hold the education course, all in English, once a year," a university official said.


And here's more evidence from the same article. The professor mentioned is a Korean professor.

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In October, a Seoul National University professor was suspended from teaching for three months for sexually harassing a female student.

He was punished for personally calling some of his students several times, asking them to join him to watch movies in the weekend. The professor mandated students to go to the theater with him on weekends and discussed the movies as part of his course during the semester.


However, I also agree with Smee about ...

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However, I'll bet you it would be much easier for a Korean professor to get out of attending these than a foreign one.
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Smee



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, my point was to question whether there was also a workshop for Korean teachers (in Korean). Anybody know?

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Troll_Bait



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's possible that there is an information booklet for the Korean professors, but no workshop. I hope that's not the case.
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legalquestions



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So why doesn't someone have a Korean speaking friend pretend to be a HUFS professor and phone the admin affairs office and ask them when the Korean professor sex harassment prevention workshop was/will be held?
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Smee



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may remember that two years ago a Korean professor at HUFS was fired for sexually harassing a student who ended up on "Chatting with Beauties."

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200706/200706270015.html
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Zolt



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the anti-harrassment campaign actually started 4 years ago under the roh administration. I remember in my company everybody had to watch a 30-minute video in korean. They all looked pretty clueless about it by the way... funny episode.

I reckon they now translated that material to English and are showing it to the foreign profs. Of course the korean media being... the korean media, tells the koreans what they want to hear and make it sound like a different story entirey.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:37 pm    Post subject: Re: HUFS foreign profs singled out for sex harassment Reply with quote

legalquestions wrote:
According to an article in today's Korea Herald, only foreign profs at HUFS have been required to undergo a mandatory sexual harassment sensitivity training workshop (though student sexual harassment seems to be largely a Korean prof phenomena here in Korea).

Oh my GOD what a troll.
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"In the past, we didn't have enough foreign professors to hold such education sessions in a foreign language. But with their increased numbers, we have translated the government-distributed information booklet into English and will hold the education course, all in English, once a year," a university official said.

Or you're an idiot, or you can't read, or English isn't your first language, or you're just trying to get morons riled up. In any event...

FAILURE.
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I'm no Picasso



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like HUFS is making positive strides forward in dealing with all the sexual harassment you fellas are always going on about being rampant in Korean society. They're taking it seriously, obviously, since they've even gone to the lengths of translating all the materials into a foreign language, so that the institute's stance on these issues can be made clear to each and every professor. Good for them.

The media here, as in most places, is sensationalist and, frankly, pure shit. Anyone who can't practice a little critical thinking should probably just steer clear of newspapers entirely (coughOPcough).
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PRagic



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean profs at all universities I've ever worked at have had to go through mandatory s.h. seminars. I've had them, too, although they were not in English.
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Straphanger



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell them harass is two words (say it out loud).
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DCJames



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smee wrote:
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSITE/data/html_dir/2009/04/29/200904290042.asp

The article said it would be the first English-language version of materials the government has heretofore distributed in Korean. I was bothered, though, that the article made it seem like these programs were ONLY for foreign professors (that is, Korean professors were not attending one of their own). I'm not sure if that's the case.

Of course Korean professors should attend these courses. They're a million times more likely to sexually harass a student than a foreign professor. However, I'll bet you it would be much easier for a Korean professor to get out of attending these than a foreign one.



This is just as ignorant as the the opposing view that only foreigner professors are likely to sexually harass.

You're dumber than I thought.
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