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fiveeagles
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Rory_Calhoun27
Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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Russia, Cuba, and other Latin American countries will attack the USA? I think someone's seen RED DAWN one too many times..... but if America can get those 600 million screaming Chinese on our side, game over anyways.... if they could cure baldness, they'd be a race of Supermen.  |
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harlowethrombey
Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul
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For any of these countries to actually attack/destroy the other would be like you setting fire to the company you owned (and not for the insurance).
THey're all so heavily invested and interdependent on each other it is simple bad fiscal policey to attack. Russia can show they have a big package by invading Georgia just as the U.S. did with Iraq. China can show it be cracking down on Tibet. All the military posturing in the world comes up against economic reality: far too many very rich and influential men in each country would lose far too much money if their country went to war with the place where they have investments.
The real danger of war is from places like NK since they might feel they have, essentially nothing to lose, but that's a big assumption. Again, the rich ruling class would lose everything if they went to war. why would they be suicidal enough to attack anyone? |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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I took graduate level courses in Sino-US relationships during college.
Myself, particuarlly not learned on the topic and slightly outdated on current events, but I can say that the general consensus among the class, professor, and even guest speakers from China was that relationships with the US are stable to say the least. You really don't have much to fear from strategic alliances China is making with any other country whereas aggression from China might be more of a worry.
Although the Taiwan situtation which appeared two years ago has quelled and that was a major worry for the diplomatic community.
Personally, I would not be overly concerned about China's political stablity. They aren't the gun toting propgandists 30 years ago. Although still under PRC face, they are actuallly more like America in public policy minus the war and imperalism. |
If things go south, for a number of reasons, it's easy to see a hard line communist party taking back power. |
I'd agree with that,
Well under major technicalites (as much as US is an "actual demorcacy") China is still communist. They maintain they are still marxist socialist and that they control the economy, but it's honestly a free market if not more so than western countries. |
China is not a free market. Not really.
Land is still owned by the state, which allows it to be leased for roughly 70 years for private purposes. And this is true only in the big cities (BJ, SH). In most of the provinces, farmers are still apportioned fields for a few years, which they can render up to the community for further apportionment if they choose to cease farming (and say, move to the city). Furthermore, the hukou registration system restricts most Chinese from moving away from home. Although in reality, many migrants from the provinces will come into cities and just work outside the already threadbare social welfare system. I guess in that respect China is more free market: health care is not provided by the state. If thats what you mean by being more free market than Western countries, point granted. But most of China is still collectivist and Sino-socialist, even if cities like Shenzhen, Shanghai, Qindao, Tianjin, and Beijing appear to be bastions of the modern free market.
Not to mention the legal system is still authoritarian, through and through. But, you could have a free market state that is still authoritarian (Singapore). |
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sjv8603
Joined: 27 Jun 2008
Location: busan
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| Rapier, are you a big Red Dawn fan? What you wrote about America burning sounds a lot like what happened in the movie Red Dawn |
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