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chris_J2

Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:36 pm Post subject: Flu |
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flu, flue, or flew? Do not confuse the spelling of flu, flue, and flew, which sound similar. The nouns flu and flue are probably the most likely to be confused: Flu is an illness, whereas a flue is a smoke or heat outlet or a type of organ pipe. Flew is the past tense of the verb fly: Time flew past.
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861612396/flu.html |
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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:31 pm Post subject: Re: Flu |
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chris_J2

Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:41 pm Post subject: Flu |
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OP, I was having a dig at the Huffington Post:
"Illegal aliens are bringing in a deadly new flue strain. Make no mistake about it," blares Michael Savage.
Journalists get paid NOT to make mistakes. The irony of the 'make no mistake', immediately after the typo, wasn't lost on me. |
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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:33 am Post subject: Mexican economy set to shutdown as flu spreads |
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Mexican economy set to shutdown as flu spreads
Mexico's president told citizens to stay home from tomorrow for a five-day partial shutdown of the economy, after the World Health Organisation raised its alert level and said a swine flu pandemic was imminent.
In his first televised address since the crisis erupted last week, president Felipe Calderon told Mexicans to stay home with their families. The country will suspend non-essential work and services, including some government ministries, from May 1st to May 5th.
"There is no safer place than your own home to avoid being infected with the flu virus," Mr Calderon said.
Mexico reported another 17 deaths potentially linked to swine flu, bringing the total to as many as 176.
Ten countries have reported cases of the H1N1 strain, and Texas officials said a 22-month-old boy had died while on a family visit from Mexico, the first confirmed swine flu death outside Mexico.
Switzerland became the latest nation to confirm a case of swine flu after a man tested positive in the town of Baden, near Zurich.
"Influenza pandemics must be taken seriously precisely because of their capacity to spread rapidly to every country in the world," WHO director general Margaret Chan told a news conference in Geneva yesterday as she raised the official alert level to phase 5, the last step before a pandemic.
"The biggest question is this: how severe will the pandemic be, especially now at the start," Chan said. But she added that the world "is better prepared for an influenza pandemic than at any time in history."
In Mexico City, a metropolis of 20 million, all schools, restaurants, nightclubs and public events have been shut down to try to stop the disease from spreading, bringing normal life to a virtual standstill.
Nearly a week after the H1N1 swine flu virus first emerged in California and Texas and was found to have caused dozens of deaths in Mexico, Spain reported the first case in Europe of swine flu in a person who had not been to Mexico, illustrating the danger of person-to-person transmission.
Both US and European officials have said they expect to see swine flu deaths.
President Barack Obama said during an evening news conference at the White House yesterday there was no need for panic and rejected the possibility of closing the border with Mexico.
"At this point, (health officials) have not recommended a border closing," he said. "From their perspective, it would be akin to closing the barn door after the horses are out, because we already have cases here in the United States."
Mr Obama also praised his predecessor for stockpiling anti-viral medication in anticipation of such an outbreak.
"I think the Bush administration did a good job of creating the infrastructure so that we can respond," Mr Obama said. "For example, we've got 50 million courses of anti-viral drugs in the event that they're needed."
Almost all cases outside Mexico have had mild symptoms, and only a handful have required hospitalization.
Masato Tashiro, head of the influenza virus research centre at Japan's National Institute of Infectious Disease and a member of the WHO emergency committee, told Japan's Nikkei newspaper it appeared the H1N1 strain was far less dangerous than avian flu.
"The virus is relatively weak and about the same as regular influenza viruses passed on via human-to-human contact. I don't believe it will become virulent," he was quoted as saying.
"The threat to health from the avian influenza and its fatality rate is much greater than the new flu," he said.
"I am very worried that we will use up the stockpile of anti-flu medicine and be unarmed before we need to fight against the avian influenza. The greatest threat to mankind remains the H5N1 avian influenza."
Mr Chan urged companies who make the drugs to ramp up production. Two antiviral drugs -- Relenza, made by GlaxoSmithKline and Tamiflu, made by Rocheand Gilead Sciences -- have been shown to work against the H1N1 strain.
Mexico's central bank warned the outbreak could deepen the nation's recession, hurting an economy that already shrank by as much as 8 per cent from the previous year in the first quarter.
France said it would seek a European Union ban on flights to Mexico. The EU, the United States and Canada have advised against non-essential travel to Mexico, and many tourists were hurrying to leave, crowding airports.
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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:39 am Post subject: Re: Flu |
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| chris_J2 wrote: |
OP, I was having a dig at the Huffington Post:
"Illegal aliens are bringing in a deadly new flue strain. Make no mistake about it," blares Michael Savage.
Journalists get paid NOT to make mistakes. The irony of the 'make no mistake', immediately after the typo, wasn't lost on me. |
Okay, in that case I will delete my post above. |
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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:30 am Post subject: |
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S.Korea quarantines foreigners
Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:59am EDT Email | Print | Share|
SOUTH KOREA took the fight against Swine fever to a new level yesterday, announcing plans to quarantine all foreigners resident in, and entering the country.
http://www.reuter.com/ |
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Gimpokid

Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Location: Best Gimpo
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:58 am Post subject: |
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I'll forego the ad hominems and just point out that your "someone" is not just anyone, it is Donald Rumsfeld, fer Chrissakes! Your mind didn't even muse, "What a coincidence!"?
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Well it doesn't muse towards the absurd if that's what you're asking.
So even the most devious and cunning of shape shifting reptoids isn't capable of investing in something that is sure to be a commodity at some point without a conspiracy being involved?
My question to you and your ilk is what kind of monster are YOU? If you're so skilled at reading between the lines what are you doing to curb the greatest catastrophe in the history of humanity beyond ranting on message boards? |
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bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:15 am Post subject: |
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| Gimpokid wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
I'll forego the ad hominems and just point out that your "someone" is not just anyone, it is Donald Rumsfeld, fer Chrissakes! Your mind didn't even muse, "What a coincidence!"?
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Well it doesn't muse towards the absurd if that's what you're asking. |
Apparently it doesn't muse at all. Someone whose did once said, "A mind is a terrible thing to waste."
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| So even the most devious and cunning of shape shifting reptoids isn't capable of investing in something that is sure to be a commodity at some point without a conspiracy being involved? |
I absoluterly agree in considering all possibilities. It is, however, a question defintiely worth asking.
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| My question to you and your ilk is what kind of monster are YOU? If you're so skilled at reading between the lines what are you doing to curb the greatest catastrophe in the history of humanity beyond ranting on message boards? |
Getting personal is uncalled for. This thread is not about me. We have seen all too many times that when one is unable or unwilling to contemplate distasteful ideas, they instead resort to attacking the messenger.
If you refuse or are incapable of following the TOS here, find elsewhere to post. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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superacidjax

Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:02 am Post subject: |
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| Gimpokid wrote: |
A flu virus enter a cell and splits apart into nine segements which are copied and recombine then exit the cell. When two or more strains are present in a cell natural genetic mixing occurs.
Bird or swine flu is not unique to birds and swines. Animals and people all over the planet share flu strains.
Nothin nefarious about it. |
While everything you've said is correct scientifically, I would like to put it out there that this outbreak has every indication of a successful bioterror attack. This is almost a textbook scenario (I was a chem-corps officer in the US Army a few year back and we studied and planned for these types of concerns.)
1. New strain to which there is no vaccine. Never before detected in humans, this particular strain has never been detected in anything, including pigs.
2. Mexico infection locus -- Mexico is very significant due to the large number of legal and illegal immigrants that cross into the US, especially when there is a public health crisis. Also, the Mexico city-location (for the majority of early infections) is ideal from a bioterror standpoint due to the fact the Mex-City is a massive international transit point, especially to the United States. The first US death from the flu was Mexican, from Mexico City who flew to Matamoros to cross into Brownsville then eventually onward to Houston.
3. The only Middle Eastern person infected is Israeli. (Not a single infection reported in any other Middle Eastern country. That's possibly just a coincidence, but in the terror business, there are no such things.
4. Several family members of US energy secretary were in Mexico as part of the advance team for the visit by the Secretary and President Obama.. they have come down with "flu-like symptoms."
5. The first case was seen in Mexico on April 13. The outbreak coincided with the President Barack Obama�s trip to Mexico City on April 16. Obama was received at Mexico�s anthropology museum in Mexico City by Felipe Solis, a distinguished archeologist who died the following day from symptoms similar to flu, Reforma newspaper reported.
6. The new Mexican Flu has elements of DNA from the following: avian flu, human flu Type A, human flu Type B, Asian swine flu, and European swine flu. A strange combination never seen before and having less than 1/10% chance of being a natural event. Human and animal viruses from four or more continents suddenly recombine in a new flu during a non-flu season that spreads from human-to-human with a 10% fatality rating.
Of course, when the government says "Don't panic," that's usually when there is something significant enough to preclude a panic.
Joe Biden today said that if he were advising his family he'd tell them to avoid "confined spaces" he mentioned how a sneeze can spread the flu throughout an airplane or subway very effectively. I would ask, if there is "no reason to panic," as others in the US government have said, then why is Biden advising his family to avoid airplanes, subways and other confined spaces? Remember, Biden, as vice president, is privy to all of the president's security and intelligence briefings and information. He reads the President's Daily Brief from CIA.
I am not saying that this IS a bioterror attack. I am merely suggesting that it has a very close profile to a bioterror attack. It's possible that this could be a small tester attack or it could perhaps be a full-blown effort. It could simply be "naturally occurring." I'm following this story with great interest!
I'm looking forward to my flight to Korea in ten days or so. Should be loads of fun by then, especially since I'm now in Texas, hanging out at my dad's in Houston before departure.
Don't worry people, if I'm sick, I won't fly! |
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superacidjax

Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:18 am Post subject: |
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The Rumsfeld "connection" is really pretty flimsy. The wife of Democrat former Calif. governor Pete Wilson was also on the board of the Tamiflu-makers.
Let's look at EVERYONE that owns stock in that company. Tamiflu is one of the only anti-virals effective against the flu, who wouldn't want to own that stock? The "normal" flu is one of the world's most serious diseases, causing serious illness in 3-5 million people worldwide per year and 500,000 deaths. Tamiflu stock is a smart thing to own. It has been since Tamiflu hit the market.
If we want to look at something nefarious from Rumsfeld, why not look at Al Gore's conflicts of interest. He goes around the world scarring people about human-caused global warming (since renamed "climate change" due to the inconvenient truth of declining world temperatures the past couple of years,) yet Al Gore is on the board of directors for a significant climate-change venture capital group. Could Gore be creating hysteria to enrich his pockets? Could Rumsfeld?
I don't think that either one of them is behind the scenes "causing" these issues. Although, I think Gore is the more disingenuous, simply because Rumsfeld was in close cooperation with the Pentagon's general counsel in an attempt to avoid conflicts of interest of insider trading. Gore on the other hand has shown no such restraint in his business interests.
If this was a human-caused event, I doubt the US would be behind it. After all, if Mexico goes down the tubes, who is forced to pick up the slack? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh. Everything is political I guess. |
You're being too nice.
blade provided the transcripts of what has been appearing on Fox. The fearmongering and hatemongering then spread around the internet like a virus, a Fox Flu. |
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superacidjax

Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| The fearmongering and hatemongering then spread around the internet like a virus, a Fox Flu. |
Fearmongering? Did you hear Vice President Biden today (on the Today Show/NBC)?
"I would tell members of my family, and I have, I wouldn't go anywhere in confined places now. It's not that you're going to Mexico, it's you're in a confined aircraft. When one person sneezes it goes all the way through the aircraft. That's me.
"I would not be, at this point, if they had another way of transportation, (be) suggesting they ride the subway."
How's THAT for fearmongering? The Vice President's Office quickly issued a "clarification." The Vice President shouldn't have to have some press flack "clarifying" his crystal clear, unambiguous comments. He's spreading fear by suggesting no one should take planes or ride subways even if they aren't going to or in Mexico.
Fox is probably one of the few news outlets unafraid of asking the hard questions the Administration seems to be soft-pedaling.
Had the border to Texas been more tightly controlled, that Mexican kid that crossed over into Brownsville and then subsequently was flown to Houston by air ambulance would not have even entered the US. Who paid for that medical care by the way? I know the kids parents didn't write a check for it, they couldn't have afforded the air ambulance flight, let alone the hospital bill. In Houston, we have a few more cases showing up. They didn't come from Canada.
The lack of even thermal scanners at the border is ridiculous. The Border Patrol won't even allow their officers at border checkpoints to wear masks, unless the person "looks sick!" Why? They don't want to offend anyone.
http://blogs.chron.com/immigration/archives/2009/04/border_officers.html
Perhaps we need some fearmongering. I am proud of the Asian response.. ALL passengers from infected areas should be at least checked. Temperature at the very least. The US isn't even doing that! I just flew two days ago and saw one flyer on an employee door at the airport reminding people to wash their hands. No passenger checks. Nothing.
I'm about to fly to Korea in about ten days and, while I'm not interested in being quarantined for 24 hours, I do respect the necessity to prevent a global crisis. After all, I'm coming from Texas, so I expect scrutiny. If only my own country would take things as seriously as Asia.
Even the popular name "Swine Flu" is irresponsible. People across the world (including Korea) are avoiding pork products from fear of getting sick. The disease should be called Mexican Flu, according to the WHO. Even the name Swine Flu is fearmongering.
http://www.radionetherlands.nl/news/international/6280110/WHO-calls-new-strain-of-H1N1-Mexican-flu |
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canuckistan Mod Team


Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm about to fly to Korea in about ten days and, while I'm not interested in being quarantined for 24 hours, I do respect the necessity to prevent a global crisis. After all, I'm coming from Texas, so I expect scrutiny. If only my own country would take things as seriously as Asia. |
As Asia should--they have a high population density, and where people in the countryside still live too closely to their livestock.
The problem with a new virus is mutation into more dangerous strain hence the efforts to slow down the spread these days and start working on a vaccine--this also gives the medical communities more time to track mutations that may evolve into more deadly forms.
The fall flu season will be of concern--by then the virus will have had a chance to meet up with plenty of people/other viruses on the planet.
The past 4 pandemics all started with a mild outbreak in spring then mutated into a more deadly form to come back in the fall/winter which produced much higher mortality rates.
Let's hope they get a handle on it over the next months and produce an effective vaccine that at least gives some immunity.
Oh, and pork chops will be cheap  |
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bacasper

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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| superacidjax wrote: |
| The Rumsfeld "connection" is really pretty flimsy. The wife of Democrat former Calif. governor Pete Wilson was also on the board of the Tamiflu-makers. |
That only makes it more suspect. |
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