Korean Job Discussion Forums

[wylies99]

The length of a letter to the editor should be shorter than a guest column.

[stevieg4ever]

The fact of the matter is that any opinion piece that reflects badly on Korea will most likely not be printed. Especially by a foreigner. And especially ones that mention people in esteemed positions specifically (bar possibly 이명박 of course).

Smee and Bum Suk
Could you not forward it to that 'Herald' poster who came on these boards and apologised, whatever his name is?

Plus it�s not in the Confucian mindset to bring one's problems out in to the open blah blah blah

Perhaps you could try removing the occasional article and preposition and change your name to Minsu and add vague and random lines about '4 seasons', 'metal chopsticks', that figure skater et all

[moosehead]

[stevieg4ever]

Exactly. Its clearly just more double standards isn't it.

And whilst we are on the subject of English teachers what about hiring other Europeans?? My Scandinavian friends can speak three or four languages and, such is their education, all have an elementary grounding in linguistics to boot. Many Dutch and Germans, for example, I have met speak much better than a lot of the teachers I have met in Korea.

On the subject of India and Malaysia, there are people who are more than competent and qualified to teach ESL from those countries. But it depends who they are after, the qualified ones or the ones with a lower standard of education who will, invariably, cost less and demand less in terms of rights and such in the workplace. I wonder....

[buymybook]

I didn't like the kiss kiss at the beginning but I suppose you have to attempt to get their attention.

Perhaps it was your 2nd to last sentence...
"However, the attitude of its president leaves me feeling very sceptical."

People don't feel "sceptical," they either are "sceptical" or aren't. Oh, and it's skeptical not "sceptical."

[stevieg4ever]

Sceptical UK English
Skeptical US English

Both are correct and neither are incorrect.

And your part about 'feeling sceptical' being inappropriate is specious at best. Ofcourse people use 'feeling sceptical' just as they use 'feeling tired' or 'feeling sleepy' or 'feeling good'. Its used all the time in Korean as well: ever heard of 느끼다 as in 피곤함을 느끼다, 좋음을 느꼈다, 졸림을 느끼다 등??

People will argue anything on these boards won't they!!!!

[Adventurer]

[sinsanri]

Well, i don't know about your arguments if theyhold up or not. Here is a letter to the editor that was not printed, even though it was submitted twice: {rough copy}

[CentralCali]

Foreign Teachers Wrongly Portrayed in Korea.

[sinsanri]

Since someone posted those, i will say the following:

1. Some are, some aren't. I worked with 3 people who had B.Eds Only 1 could teach and the other two should have found employment in other fields.

2. Some do and some don't. They are more interested in the night life than they are the classroom.

3. Again, some are and some aren't. Though K-bridge did post the book 'How to Pick up korean Women' on their website and supported the ideas presented in the book as did many other members.

4. Worked with a man who did that. I am sure there are others.

5. This one I would give him as we can.

6. This is a possibility as some western countries do NOT hire older workers and those who are Over-Qualified for the position.

7. Quite a few are. enough said

8. Hard to say. There are enough westerners being caught with drugs to give legitimacy to this claim. Though th eword criminal can be applied subjectively.

9. Quite a few are. This is a given as many do not care about their students or quality of their classes and look solely at their paycheck, for whatever reason.

10. Some are. There was a poster last week who stated this very thing.

The author should have done some research and realized that his sweeping generalizations are as much of a distortion as he claims the article he was answering was.

Yes there are good foreigners here but there are also many who fit into those categories and NEts should stop claiming innocence and own up to the reality.

[Unposter]

Sinsanri,

You might be taken more seriously if you seem more reasonable. Attacking 10 myths abotu NESTs detracts from your criticisms of the letters as it just makes you sound prejudiced whether you are or not.

Some additional points.

1. Whether someone can teach or not has nothing to do with whether they are qualified. This is a big problem with the whole question of qualification as it is being made here in Korea.

2. Concern about nightlife and concern about the classroom are not mutually exclusive. One can be interested in more than one thing.

3. Being a sexual predator is a pretty serious and criminal designation. Desire to pick-up women does not make one a sexual predator.

4. Who cares? What is absolutely necessary in these discussions is real studies.

6. Who cares?

7. You are just continuing the stereotypes. What makes you think so? Your lack of reasoning skills is, well, worrisome.

8. What do you mean enough? There have been a few but what do you mean by "enough?"

9. Again, what do you mean by here for the money? Do you mean people come to Korea to work? I would not equate the desire to work with only here for the money? But, I would like to hear what you mean by that?

10. Again, the problem is what is meant by "we're." One person or even a handfull does not mean "we're" unhappy. And, more importantly, why are these people unhappy? If it has to do with being victimized by the illegal activities of Koreans than this is a serious complaint that needs to be addressed as any illegal activity is.

Native English-speakers come to Korea and undergo hardships to perform necessary services on behalf of the Korean people. Yes, they are compensated financially. While most may not t deserve to be "thanked" as they are compensated, they certainly don't deserve to be kicked either. I think most just want to be treated fairly.

[moosehead]

I agree - Deutch's article ROCKS !

thanks for posting -

[sinsanri]

[Scotticus]

[wylies99]