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DaeguKid



Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 1:00 am    Post subject: Buying an apartment in Korea... Reply with quote

Does anyone know if it is possible to do that here on an F2 visa?
In terms of getting a loan through a bank, will I be denied because I am not Korean? Some background info...
-I have a stable job, been there for 2 years plus now. It ain't going anywhere.
-wife is not employed on the "books" with a business.

Can we get a mortgage?

Thanks for the help.
DK
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okokok



Joined: 27 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's very easy to get a mortgage here right now (even without employment). Under your wife's name anyways.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can do Wolsay, where you put down a deposit plus rent.

If you do Wolsay, then every 10 million in deposit you put down will lower your rent by 100,000 per month.

Or you can do Jeonsay, where you put up a huge deposit and pay no rent.


Or you can purchase.

Loans, as I've heard, are a different animal here compared to back in the USA. You need like 60% of the cost of the house down to get a loan on the rest.



We do Wolsay on our place, and are saving-up to change over to Jeonsay one day in a few years. After that, we'll keep saving until we buy our own place or move to the USA, where we'll flop down a nice chunk of cash to buy a home outright. The realtor in the USA will say, "How did you get this much money?" I will say, "We got it from a country that's been getting rich off of lax American trade laws and slowly bleeding people like you dry as you give your childrens' future away to their neighbors."
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DCJames



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
You can do Wolsay, where you put down a deposit plus rent.

If you do Wolsay, then every 10 million in deposit you put down will lower your rent by 100,000 per month.

Or you can do Jeonsay, where you put up a huge deposit and pay no rent.


Or you can purchase.

Loans, as I've heard, are a different animal here compared to back in the USA. You need like 60% of the cost of the house down to get a loan on the rest.



We do Wolsay on our place, and are saving-up to change over to Jeonsay one day in a few years. After that, we'll keep saving until we buy our own place or move to the USA, where we'll flop down a nice chunk of cash to buy a home outright. The realtor in the USA will say, "How did you get this much money?" I will say, "We got it from a country that's been getting rich off of lax American trade laws and slowly bleeding people like you dry as you give your childrens' future away to their neighbors."


LOL, America isn't in the Free Trade Agreement because it's selflessly altruisitic. Rolling Eyes America signed the FTA because it wants to get it's crappy GM cars and old rotten beef into Korea as much as Hyundai and Samsung want to get their crap into the US.

For all the stuff Korea has given you (job, wife, money) you sure do seem like an ungrateful parasite.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DCJames wrote:


For all the stuff Korea has given you (job, wife, money) you sure do seem like an ungrateful parasite.



"Given" me?

I assure you, I've worked for it, buddy.

You're a lousy troll.


And as for parasites:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=154295
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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
The realtor in the USA will say, "How did you get this much money?" I will say, "We got it from a country that's been getting rich off of lax American trade laws and slowly bleeding people like you dry as you give your childrens' future away to their neighbors."


Laughing Always amusing to hear nationalistic talk from ex-pats who haven't paid taxes or contributed to their country in any meaningful way for years. Well, at least you're not running from your debt like most the other tough-talking dweebs around here.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
The realtor in the USA will say, "How did you get this much money?" I will say, "We got it from a country that's been getting rich off of lax American trade laws and slowly bleeding people like you dry as you give your childrens' future away to their neighbors."


Laughing Always amusing to hear nationalistic talk from ex-pats who haven't paid taxes or contributed to their country in any meaningful way for years. Well, at least you're not running from your debt like most the other tough-talking dweebs around here.


Why should I pay taxes to the USA? I file, however I'm not earning any income there.

So only Americans back home (who aren't able to see things as they happen overseas) should be allowed to comment?

Are you stupid?
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John_ESL_White



Joined: 12 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DCJames wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
You can do Wolsay, where you put down a deposit plus rent.

If you do Wolsay, then every 10 million in deposit you put down will lower your rent by 100,000 per month.

Or you can do Jeonsay, where you put up a huge deposit and pay no rent.


Or you can purchase.

Loans, as I've heard, are a different animal here compared to back in the USA. You need like 60% of the cost of the house down to get a loan on the rest.



We do Wolsay on our place, and are saving-up to change over to Jeonsay one day in a few years. After that, we'll keep saving until we buy our own place or move to the USA, where we'll flop down a nice chunk of cash to buy a home outright. The realtor in the USA will say, "How did you get this much money?" I will say, "We got it from a country that's been getting rich off of lax American trade laws and slowly bleeding people like you dry as you give your childrens' future away to their neighbors."


LOL, America isn't in the Free Trade Agreement because it's selflessly altruisitic. Rolling Eyes America signed the FTA because it wants to get it's crappy GM cars and old rotten beef into Korea as much as Hyundai and Samsung want to get their crap into the US.

For all the stuff Korea has given you (job, wife, money) you sure do seem like an ungrateful parasite.


I don't pay US taxes; but for 20 years, I paid a LOT into the US tax system.

Anyway, yeah, american cars suk.

American beef, however, is wonderful.

We used 70% of the asking price when buying the apt. Not in my name though- the wife's. Don't know is if it could be in my name with F2. Probably could with an F5. But, in the end, half is your wife's- F2 or F5.

So, keep her happy.
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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:

Why should I pay taxes to the USA? I file, however I'm not earning any income there.

So only Americans back home (who aren't able to see things as they happen overseas) should be allowed to comment?

Are you stupid?


BE, you have some serious reading comprehension issues. Perhaps you should ask your Korean co-teacher for some private lessons?
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless something has changed, I believe the mortgage system here works in reverse of the US system. Here, you have to actually buy the house/apartment first, then go to the bank to get your loan; no property, no mortgage. My understanding is that, yes, if you have a good lump sum to put down, you can get a mortgage relatively easily, even if you're a foreigner employed here.

I would, however, question the decision to buy anything in Korea right now, especially an apartment. The Korean news finally (FINALLY!) broke the news that Korea's per capita income can't support the run away prices on apartments here. Much like when it comes to the stock market, if it makes the news, you can bet that the wheels have already been in motion for a while. Another academic stated that 'buy' prices on Korean apartments should be about where 'chunsae' prices are now. That would mean about a 60% correction, more in some areas.

We're thankfully on chunsae and wouldn't buy now if you put a gun to our heads!
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things will become interesting in the next 20 years if Koreans don't start having more babies, yet build more apartments.

Did you all catch the story about the apartment owners who are crying for compensation because LMB said he would remove the capital gains tax burden from people owning two apartments -- they sold their apartments, and now have found that the gov't hasn't followed through with LMB's plan. Now they owe something like 15 or 20% tax.
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka wrote:


Always amusing to hear nationalistic talk from ex-pats who haven't paid taxes or contributed to their country in any meaningful way for years. Well, at least you're not running from your debt like most the other tough-talking dweebs around here.



Please remember, if someone already owns property in the States, they do pay taxes. I pay over $5,000 in property tax every year.

Not really directed at Bass, or madoka, just a general statement as it relates to the discussion of taxes paid or not paid by expats.
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